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<br><div>From: <span class="gI"><span class="gD">Andy</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:andy@scots-online.org">andy@scots-online.org</a></span></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L 'Phonology' 2012.01.17 (02) [EN]</span><span><br><br></span><div class="im">R. F. Hahn wrote:<br>
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I am intrigued by some Scots words with scl... in which the /s-/ or the
/-k-/ seem to be intrusive. I wonder if we can make sense of this
somehow.<br>
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Examples:<br>
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Intrusive s?<br>
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sclammer 'clamber'<br>
sclammer 'clamor'<br>
sclim 'climb'<br>
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Intrusive k?<br>
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sclice 'slice' [Medieval French esclicier!]<br>
sclidder ~ slidder 'slither'<br>
sclate ~ slate 'slate' [Medieval French esclat!]<br>
sclender ~ sclinner 'slender' [Medieval French esclendre!]<br>
scly 'slide'<br>
sclype ~ slype 'slap'<br>
sklent ~ slent 'slant'<br>
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spl- > skl-?<br>
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sklinter 'splinter'<br>
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What do you think is going on where Medieval French does not account for the formations?<br>
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The prothetic (intrusive) s is most frequently prefixed to words begining with /k, p, t/ and occasionally /l/ and /m/.<br>
also spatch 'patch', spink 'pink', stramp 'tramp', smush 'mush'.<br>
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Perhaps some influence from Norse cf. shoot and skeet, shirt and skirt, ship and skip etc.<br>
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The intrusive k, where Medieval French does not account for the /skl/,
may be modifications by analogy with words that have etymological /skl/,
perhaps reinforced by the /kl/ to /skl/ above.<br>
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Andy Eagle <br><br>----------<br><br>From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <<a href="mailto:roerd096@PLANET.NL">roerd096@PLANET.NL</a>><br>
Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L 'Phonology' 2012.01.17 (02) [EN]</span><span><br><br></span>Hope you are not snowed in too bad, Ron...<br>
<br>
About the Scots sclusters, I have my own little theory:<br>
<br>
Old Anglosaxon sc- became something like sh- in Scots, as in English, at least in some cases,<br>
e.g. when a front vowel followed.<br>
As the cluster scr- became shr-, the similar cluster sl- became scl-<br>
<br>
About this parallell of sl- with scr-: in Dutch it's not possible too say sr- , must be schr- [sxr].<br>
In Dutch, many people even say Schri Lanka with intrusive ch [x] -> [sxri].<br>
In German that would be schr- [SR], and in German, one can not say sl-, it must be schl- [Sl].<br>
<br>
Later the Vikings influenced Scots and sh- was replaced back by sk- again, parallell to the many<br>
Scandinavian words were borrowed into Scots and English with sk/sc instead of sh:<br>
scream, scrape, scuttle, sky, skim, skittish etc.<br>
<br>
But in Scots, shr- and shl- were both restored as scr-, scl-, so even old sl- became scl- via shl-.<br>
In your examples, all the words with scl- have a front vowel, maybe that was important for sl-<br>
to become shl- as well (influence of Celtic slenderness?)<br>
<br>
Just by 2 eurocents.<br>
<br>
Ingmar<br>
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From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br></div><div style="margin-left:40px;color:rgb(0,0,153)" id=":15e">
Subject: Phonolgy<br>
<br>
Dear Lowlanders,<br>
<br>
I am intrigued by some Scots words with scl... in which the /s-/ or the
/-k-/ seem to be intrusive. I wonder if we can make sense of this
somehow.<br>
<br>
Examples:<br>
<br>
Intrusive s?<br>
<br>
sclammer 'clamber'<br>
sclammer 'clamor'<br>
sclim 'climb'<br>
<br>
Intrusive k?<br>
<br>
sclice 'slice' [Medieval French esclicier!]<br>
<br>
sclidder ~ slidder 'slither'<br>
sclate ~ slate 'slate' [Medieval French esclat!]<br>
sclender ~ sclinner 'slender' [Medieval French esclendre!]<br>
scly 'slide'<br>
sclype ~ slype 'slap'<br>
sklent ~ slent 'slant'<br>
<br>
spl- > skl-?<br>
<br>
sklinter 'splinter'<br>
<br>
What do you think is going on where Medieval French does not account for the formations?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br>
Seattle, USA (about to be snowed in again ...)</div><span><br></span>
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