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<font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2">From: </font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gI"><span class="gD">Michael Everson</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:everson@evertype.com">everson@evertype.com</a></span></span><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2"><br>


      Subject: </font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gI">LL-L "Phonology" 2012.02.16 (04) [EN]</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
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</font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> From: Ingmar Roerdinkholder <</span><a style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" href="mailto:roerd096@PLANET.NL">roerd096@PLANET.NL</a><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">></span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">



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> Nice, Michael (btw: EVERtype as in EVERson?),<br>
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Of course.</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">

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> I have a question: how is "au" pronounced in Plautdietsch, is it a 
diphthong like German and Dutch au, and English ou/ow, or is it more 
like an open "o" like sound, as English aw/au, or something else?<br>
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I have assumed it is [ɔː] or similar.</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
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<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="HOEnZb adL"><font color="#888888">Michael Everson * <a href="http://www.evertype.com/" target="_blank">http://www.evertype.com/</a><br></font></span><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2"><br>

----------</font><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2"><br><br>From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>
      Subject: Phonology<br><br>Hi, Ingmar!<br><br>You asked about the phonetic equivalent of "au"</font><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2"> in Mennonite Low Saxon (<i>Plautdietsch</i>)</font><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2"> (equivalent of Central Low Saxon short /a/ [a] and Dutch short /a/ [ɑ]).<br>

<br>Personally I hear it as [ɑʊ] most of the time (as opposed to "German-style" [a</font><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2">ʊ</font><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2">]).<br>

<br>But why not listen to it yourself?<br><br>Jack Driedger: <br><a href="http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/khortitza.php">http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/khortitza.php</a><br><br>Reuben Epp (our dear late Lowlands-L member):<br>

<a href="http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/molochna.php">http://lowlands-l.net/anniversary/molochna.php</a><br><br>Another clip:<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A37iqbo1BE">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A37iqbo1BE</a><br>

<br>Please bear in mind that k > kj is older than "Russian" ("Soviet") k > kj > tj. This goes hand in hand with the shift u > ü. In other words, Mennonites whose ancestors left "Russia" earlier use kj and u, while those that left "Russia" more recently use tj and ü.<br>

<br>Here is a non-Mennonite Low Saxon dialect of the Midwest USA:<br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMiElxOaHIo">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMiElxOaHIo</a><br><br>Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br>Seattle, USA</font><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2"><br>

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