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<font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2">From: </font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gI"><span class="gD">Paul Anisman</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:panisman@gmail.com">panisman@gmail.com</a></span></span><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2"><br>
Subject: </font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gI">LL-L "Idiomatica" 2012.02.17 (01) [EN]</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2"><br>
</font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Checked with my daughter-in-law today....a London native. She's well
familiar with the term "nosy parker", but says it's a bit old timey at
this point. Says she'd more likely use "nosy bugger". Her intuitive
feeling as to the origin of "parker" is that it's from the surname.</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">This is not meant to diminish in any way the significance of the topic of this thread. Simply a point of interest.</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Paul</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">MD USA</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
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<font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2">From: </font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gI"><span class="gD">Mike Morgan</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:mwmbombay@gmail.com">mwmbombay@gmail.com</a></span></span><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2"><br>
Subject: </font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gI">LL-L "Idiomatica" 2012.02.17 (01) [EN]<br><br></span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Although I can't say I've heard it too often (but then, I am around Deaf
people and Indian Sign Language all the time so I am not around ANY
spoken language much), in Indian English, and also in Hindi, there is
the word </span><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="line-height:26px;color:rgb(198,13,17)">nakkoo नक्कू</span></font><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
/nakku:/ (Urdu نکو , but not sure it is used in the same sense), which
I take is a calque from English (and literally it means someone with a
big nose, बड़ी नाकवाला). It is used by the Bombay-cum-NRI writer Salman Rushdie</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"Aadam, the nakkoo, the nosey one, followed his pointing finger. 'I
have watched the mountains being born; I have seen Emperors die. "</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">It is also used (perhaps even more frequently) to mean snobby.</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Another Indian English idiom with nosy is: nosy pencil. as in</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">"Teacher : (picking up Arun's pencil and measuring against her nose) Arun
! What is this? Nosy pencil! (pencil is thrown out of window). Get a
nice, long choop pencil tomorrow."</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> (source of example: </span><a style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" href="http://samosapedia.com/e/nosy%20pencil" target="_blank">http://samosapedia.com/e/nosy%20pencil</a><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">)</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="gmail_quote">samosapedia,com, by the way, is thebest guide to Indian English idioms I've coem across on the net...<br>
<br><div>PS in general though a person who would be called a nosy Parker
in the UK or a busybody in the US would be called normal in India ;-)<br><br></div></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">mwm || <u>U</u> C > || mike || мика || माईक || マイク || மாய்க் (aka Dr Michael W Morgan)<br>
sign language linguist / linguistic typologist at large / "Have language(s), will travel"</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><b>"If one has no affection for a person or a system, one
should feel free to give the fullest expression to his disaffection so
long as he does not contemplate, promote, or incite violence." (MKG)<br>
"You assist an unjust administration most effectively by obeying its
orders and decrees. An evil administration never deserves such
allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil.</b> <b>A good
person will resist an evil system with his whole soul. Disobedience of
the laws of an evil state is therefore a duty." (MKG)</b><br>
been there, done that...<br><br>----------<br><br><big>From: Hannelore Hinz <<a href="mailto:hannehinz@t-online.de" target="_blank">hannehinz@t-online.de</a><br>
Subject: LL-L "Idiomatica" 2012.02.17 (01) [EN]<br>
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Dat heff ick nienich ahnt...,<br>
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einen <i>nosy parker </i>: Topfgucker giwwt dat ok
hiertauland'n.<br>
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<b>Topfgucker, </b>m., Pott(en)-/Püttenkieker/-snuver, pl. -s;<br>
Kökenknecht [ǭ], m., pl. -en<br>
Lit.: GÜNTER HARTE - JOHANNA HARTE<br>
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<b>Pöttenkiker </b>m. Küchenknecht, jem., der immer in der Küche
liegt und in die Töpfe guckt; dann auch einer, der seine Nase in
alles steckt.<br>
<i>Pottkiker, Pöttkenkiker, Püttenkiker, Putten-, -ö-, -ü-,
Püttjenkieker.<br>
</i>Vom Neugierigen: <i>dee het de Näs' in all' Frugens ehr Pött;
<br>
</i>sprw.: <i>lütt Pött kaakt licht œwer </i>(kleine Menschen
geraten leicht in Zorn). Satzform: <i>wat gifft 't tau äten? Hack
un Plück un Krup-in-'n-Pott.<br>
</i>Lit.: Perfesser Voßlo<br>
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... nu möt ik in mien Kœk un Pöttenkiker spälen, nah dat
Mankkaaktäten kieken, dat' nich anbrennt...<br>
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Best Gräuten.<br>
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Hanne</big><br></div><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="2">
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