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From: <span></span><span></span></span><span class="gI"><span class="gD">Kevin & Cheryl Caldwell</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net">kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net</a></span></span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">






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    Subject: </span><span class="gI">LL-L "Etymology" 2012.03.27 (01) [DE-EN-NDS]<br><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I wonder if English “bramble” is related.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kevin Caldwell</span></p><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:rgb(31,73,125)">Laurel, Maryland, USA<br>

<br></span><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;line-height:115%;margin-left:40px;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">From: <span>Roger Thijs</span><span> </span><span><a href="mailto:rogerthijs@yahoo.com" target="_blank">rogerthijs@yahoo.com</a></span><br>

Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2012.03.26 (03) [EN]</span></span></p><div style="margin-left:40px;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">> From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>

> Subject: Etymology</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">> For one thing, its Low Saxon name <i>Braam</i> ([brɒːm] ~ [broːm]), its Dutch name <i>brem</i> ([brɛm])</span></p>

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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">I'm confused since Dutch has as well brem as braam</span></p></div><div style="margin-left:40px;color:rgb(0,0,153)"><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%">

<span style="font-family:"Courier New""><a href="http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brem_%28plant%29" target="_blank">http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brem_(plant)</a></span></p></div><div style="margin-left:40px"><a style="color:rgb(0,0,153)" href="http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braam_%28plant%29" target="_blank"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Braam_(plant)</span></a><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(0,0,153)"></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">

<span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(0,0,153)"></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(0,0,153)">In my Limburgish (Vliermaal) we used:</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">

<span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(0,0,153)">"broemele" for Dutch "braambessen" (blackberries)</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(0,0,153)">We used "breime" as generic for large picking plants, making passthrough virtually impossible.</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">

<span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(0,0,153)"></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(0,0,153)">I
 don't know the dialect word for the Dutch "brem". I think it was 
growing in the sandy "Kempen" but not in the clayground of my 
"Haspengouw"</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(0,0,153)"></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="font-family:"Courier New";color:rgb(0,0,153)">Regards,<br>

Roger</span><br></div><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">

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