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<p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">From: "Steven Hanson" <<a href="mailto:ammurit@gmail.com">ammurit@gmail.com</a>></p>
Subject:
LL-L "History" 2012.04.04 (02) [EN]<br><br><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Aren’t
there some who say that a full third of the vocabulary of the Germanic
languages lacks cognates with the broader Indo-European family, even
though there are cognates among all the Germanic languages? If indeed
that is true, perhaps these place names might have come from the unknown
source of those seemingly mysterious Germanic, but not Indo-European,
words. </p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"> </p><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt 40px;color:rgb(0,0,153)">From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></p>
<div style="margin-left:40px"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">Subject: History</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">Dear Lowlanders,</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">What
do you make of the newish hypothesis that there were speakers of
Germanic languages in England before or during Roman occupation?</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwXOr47EJ1E" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwXOr47EJ1E</a></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">Personally, I am not convinced, but I consider it possible.</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"></span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">
<span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">Best wishes,</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">Reinhard/Ron</span><br style="color:rgb(0,0,153)"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,153)">Seattle, USA</span><br>
</div><br>----------<br><br><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">From: <span class="gI"><span class="gD">Roger Thijs</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:rogerthijs@yahoo.com">rogerthijs@yahoo.com</a></span></span></p>
Subject:
LL-L "History" 2012.04.04 (02) [EN]<br><br><div class="im"><div><span>> </span>From: R. F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>></div></div><div>
> Subject: History<div class="im"><br>>
What do you make of the newish hypothesis that there were speakers of
Germanic languages in England before or during Roman occupation?<br></div><div class="im">> Personally, I am not convinced, but I consider it possible</div></div><div> </div><div>Several references to the "Tungri" are found in Northern Brittany.</div>
<div>The
Tungri are generally considered as being relocated from over the Rhine,
after the semi-Germanic Eburones were murdered by Caesars troups. They
served in the Roman army.</div><div>These Tungri spoke probably proto-Limburgish (cf. town of Tongeren; Tongerlandish is still a variety of Limburgish, with a
very typical sound, which I think is due to walloon influence).</div><div> </div><div>Regards,</div><div>Roger</div><div> </div><div>Next weekend I'm in Belgium for a couple of days. I will check the reference material I have at home.</div>
<br>----------<br><br><p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">From: <span class="gI"><span class="gD">Mark and Ruth Dreyer</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:mrdreyer@telkomsa.net">mrdreyer@telkomsa.net</a></span></span></p>
Subject:
LL-L "History" 2012.04.04 (02) [EN]<br><br><div>Dear Ron:</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I would ignore this craftless amalgum of two
studies. But I have suggestions that might improve their work. To start with,
let them go to a geologist, & get confirmation that this extremely
well-drained part of Britain had a lake in even prehistoric times. I don't say
there wasn't, but let a geologist show proof (& proof there would be), not a
philologist. Second, let a scholar of Celtic languages show that the 'ey' suffix
bears no relation to grammar in a Celtic or pre-Celtic non-Germanic tongue. I
don't say there wasn't, but they aught to have a philologist make this point,
not leave the opening to detractors. Next, I do not doubt that immediately
post-Wurm the British Isles-to-be were populated from Spain Northward &
(even after the sinking of the land-bridge) to a lesser extent from the mainland
to the West. I concede that this would be reflected in genetic markers
South to North & East to West in the British isles, but I would expect the
People involved to have settled before Indo-Germanic became a
distinctive language, let alone Celtic or for that
matter Teutonic.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>On the other hand we know the Romans were recruiting
Batavii (of the Netherlands) to the ranks of their auxilia & the legions
well before they occupied Britain. They have left record in their
remains along Hadrian's wall, & (I stand to correction) the
Antonine as well. Even earlier, the Ancients report that the Belgicae
(Southwards of the self-same region) were a hybrid people, blending British
& Teutonic strains. This would be reflected in their genes & language,
also Culture (did they not worship Gwidion, God of the Storm).</div>
<div> </div>
<div>These two Teutonic strains might not classify as pure
Saxon, but it is reported that Post-Imperial British employed Saxons as
mercenaries, & their remains in several parts of Britain are co-eval with
the British.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Germans got around, hey!</div>
<div> </div>
<div>All yours,</div>
<div>Mark.</div><br><div>You Wrote: </div>
What do you make of the newish hypothesis that there were
speakers of Germanic languages in England before or during Roman
occupation?<br><br><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwXOr47EJ1E" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwXOr47EJ1E</a><br><br>Personally, I am not convinced, but I consider it
possible.<br></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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