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<p style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="MsoNormal"><font>From: </font><span><span>Utz H.Woltmann</span> <span><a href="mailto:uwoltmann@gmx.de" target="_blank">uwoltmann@gmx.de</a></span></span><font><br>
Subject: </font><span>LL-L "Lexicon" 2012.06.16 (01) [EN]</span></p><p style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" class="MsoNormal"><br></p><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Dear Lowlanders,</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
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Searching for my ancestors - my maternal grandfather was born in
Konkolewo (Hauland) - I came across the German terms 'Holländer' /
'Hauländer' which characterize the Olęder colonization in Prussia.
Beginning with immigrants from Netherlands, Friesland and Northern parts
of Germany who settled on difficult low and wet terrain and got some
privileges, their villages were called Holęndry or Olęndry, the
inhabitants Olęndrzy (sing. Olęnder).</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
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An interesting article about this I found in Wikipedia. Please read:</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
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<a style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ol%C4%99drzy" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olędrzy</a><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
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Best regards</span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#888888">Utz H. Woltmann</font></span><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
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<br>----------<br><br>From: R.F. Hahn <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sassisch@yahoo.com</a>><br>Subject: History<br><br>Thanks a lot for the interesting information, Utz.<br><br>Please also consider the following information: <br>
<a href="http://www.oledrynowotomyskie.e7.pl/oledry/" target="_blank">http://www.oledrynowotomyskie.e7.pl/oledry/</a> <span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">(Polish)</span><br><a href="http://www.oledrynowotomyskie.e7.pl/oledry/de/" target="_blank">http://www.oledrynowotomyskie.e7.pl/oledry/de/</a> <span style="color:rgb(102,102,102)">(German)</span><br>
<br>One of the things I find interesting is that </font>
Konkolewo (Hauland) is situated in the Poznan (Posen) region of Poland, well south of the Baltic coast area along which most migrants from what are now the Netherlands and Northwestern Germany tended to congregate. <br><br>
It seems to me that in the olden days (before the founding of what is now Germany) Dutch-, Frisian- and Low-Saxon speakers tended to be lumped together as one basic group in places farther afield, such as in France, Scandinavia, Britain, Poland, the Baltic countries, and Russia, probably also in Southern Africa. At least to them, the three groups seemed to have constituted a cultural and linguistic block, especially in the absence of national boundaries as we now know them.<br>
<br>Things seem to have been clearer where one group of western migrants, and with it its language, dominated. This seems to be the case in what are now coastal Poland and Kaliningrad (<span lang="de"><i>Königsberg, </i></span><span lang="pl"><i>Królewiec, </i></span><span lang="lt"><i>Karaliaučius</i></span>) where new Low Saxon varieties were developed on Slavic and Baltic substrata. This perceived "cultural and linguistic" continuum begins in the west with Eastern Holstein and fizzles out in Latvia and Estonia. Outside today's Germany, it used to be particularly strong in what is now coastal Poland, where Slovincians and Kashubians rubbed shoulders and eventually also intermarried with the newcomers and learned to use their language. Low Saxon loanwords abound in Kashubian, even more so in Slovincian. Living west of the Kashubian area, the Slovincians and their language were particularly strongly "Saxonized" (though not quite as much as their Slavic-rooted, now thoroughly Germanized brethren farther west, in areas left of today's German-Polish border). This alliance never sat well with the Polish mainstream, especially because most Slovincians adopted Lutheranism, as opposed to mainstream Kashubian and Polish loyalty to Roman Catholicism. Consequently, Poland's Slovincians (who spoke Slovincian, Polish, Low Saxon and often also German) were branded "Germans" and were expelled from their homeland at the end of World War II. The last competent speaker of Slovincian (a West Slavic language) died somewhere in West Germany in the second half of the 20th century.<br>
<br>I think it would be very interesting to further explore old-time perceptions and identifications of these "Dutch" or "Hollanders" several centuries ago. Peter the Great (<span lang="ru">Пётр I</span>) of Russia was enamored with Dutch seafaring and ship-building technology. Did this include or exclude what are now the eastern Netherlands and northwestern Germany (of Hanseatic fame)? Queen Elizabeth I of England is supposed to have had at least some passive proficiency in "Dutch." Was this "Dutch" as we define it now, or did it include Low Saxon?<br>
<br>What do <i>you</i> think?<br><br>Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br>Seattle, USA</div><font><br><br>==============================</font><font style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">===========================<br>
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