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<p style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;text-align:left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font><font><br></font></font></span></p><div style="text-align:left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: <span class="gI"><span name="Roland Desnerck" class="gD">Roland Desnerck</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:roland.desnerck@telenet.be">roland.desnerck@telenet.be</a></span></span><a href="mailto:hannehinz@t-online.de" target="_blank"></a><br>
Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L "Idiomatica" 2012.09.17 (02) [DE-NDS]</span><br><br>Beste jullie allemaal,</span>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Schiettecatte is een naam die vrij veel in West- en Oost-Vlaanderen voorkomt;</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Ter informatie: in mijn Oostendse streektaal kennen we:</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">sjhietekootsje (schijtekootje) = liefje, lieveling.</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Toetnoasteki,</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Roland Desnerck</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Rogierlaan 25</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">8400 Oostende</span></div><div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">België<br><br>-----------<br><br>From: <span class="gI"><span name="Luc Vanbrabant" class="gD">Luc Vanbrabant</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:lucv32@gmail.com">lucv32@gmail.com</a></span></span><br>
Subject: <span class="gI"></span><span class="gI">LL-L "Names" 2012.09.13 (02) [NL]<br><br></span>Dag Arend,<br><br>Hier een tekst uit het volgende woordenboek:<br><br>DR. FRANS DEBRABANDERE<br>Woordenboek van de familienamen<br>
in Zeeland<br><br><b>Schiettekatte:</b> Ook Schietekat. Zinwoord ‘schiet de kat’. BN voor een kattendoder. 1288<br>
Loys Scietekatte, Namen; 1485 Justin Schiettecatte, Gent; 1639 Pieter Pieterse Schietkatte,<br>Zonnemaire (VZS 2005, 42). <br>– Lit.: F. DEBRABANDERE, De familienaam Schietekat. Naamkunde 21 (1989), 186-189.<br><br>Dit
woordenboek staat op het internet en kan gedownload worden als pdf.
Als je het niet meer vindt, kan ik het nog altijd als bijlage
opsturen..<br><br>De omkering past bij mij nog altijd perfect bij de beroepsnaam kattenschieter, kattenverdelger.</span>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><br>Zelfde woordenboek:<br><b>Kats</b> (van) Cats: PlN Kats (Z). 1271 dat mi Clais van Kats ghaf sin hus te Kats, Zierikzee<br>
(OHZ III, 620); 1292 Heinrijc van Cats, Costijn van Cats, Z (CG); 1477 Clemencie van Cats,<br>Sluis (PARM.); 1475 Pieter van Cats, Aardenburg (VAN VOOREN 1970).<br>Katsman: Afl. van van Kats.<br><br>Cats is nog altijd een mooi dorp in Zeeland!<br>
<br>Van dezelfde meneer heb ik thuis in boekvorm het woordenboek van de
familienamen in België en Noord-Frankrijk (in de 'Sleghte' goedkoop
gekocht).</span>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><br>Groetjes,<br><br>Luc Vanbrabant<br><br></span>
<blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div style="text-align:left"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font>From: <span><span name="Luc Vanbrabant"></span></span></font><font><span><span name="Luc Vanbrabant"><span><span name="Hellinckx Luc"></span></span></span></span></font><font><span><span name="Luc Vanbrabant"><span><span name="Hellinckx Luc"><span><span name="Isaac M. Davis"></span></span></span></span></span></span></font><font><span><span name="Luc Vanbrabant"><span><span name="Hellinckx Luc"><span><span name="Isaac M. Davis"><span><span name="Edwin Alexander"></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></font><font><span><span name="Luc Vanbrabant"><span><span name="Hellinckx Luc"><span><span name="Isaac M. Davis"><span><span name="Edwin Alexander"><span><span name="Arend Victorie">Arend Victorie</span> <span><a href="mailto:victorie.a@home.nl" target="_blank">victorie.a@home.nl</a></span></span></span><span></span></span></span><span></span></span></span><span></span></span></span><span></span></span></font><font><span><span name="Roger Thijs"></span><span></span></span></font><font><span><span name="Roger Thijs"><span><span></span></span></span><span></span></span><br>
Subject: <span>Triviant</span></font><font><span><br><br></span></font></span><p class="MsoNormal"><font size="4"><span style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span>Moi volk</span></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<font size="4"><span style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span>In Hoogeveen kwam de naam Katschijte, ook Catteschiete, voor. Nu kwam ik toevallig tegen dat rond 1600 de <span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">n</span>aam Schietecatte al voor komt in Vlaanderen. Is dat grappig, of niet? In ieder geval begin ik meteen te denken: in </span><span lang="NL">hoeverre</span><span> heeft een Schietecatte wat met een Catteschiete te maken en wat betekent het?</span></span></font></p>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font><span style="font-family:times new roman,serif"><span><font size="4">Gegroet</font><br></span></span></font></span><br><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font size="4"><span><span><font color="#888888"><span style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">Arend</span></font></span></span></font><font><span>
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Subject: Names<br></span></span></span></font></font></span></font><br><span lang="nl"><span>Wat voor</span> <span>een naam</span> <span>is dat, beste Arend?</span> <span>Een</span> <span>plaatsnaam</span><span>,</span> <span>of een</span> <span>achternaam</span><span>? <span lang="nl"><span>Ik weet</span> wel <span>dat het ook een</span> <span>achternaam is.</span></span></span></span><span lang="nl"><span></span></span><font><span><br>
</span></font><br><font><span><span lang="nl"><span><span lang="nl"><span>Een</span> <span>Albert</span> <span>Hendriks</span> <span>Kattenschijte</span> <span>was de vader van</span> <span>(</span><span>Hendrik</span> <span>Alberts</span> <span>Katschijte</span><span> ></span><span>)</span> <span>Hendrik</span> <span>Alberts</span> <span>Katschijte</span> <span>Kats</span> <span>(1690</span><span>-</span><span><</span><span>1730)</span><span>.</span> <span>Hij woonde</span> <span>in Hoogeveen</span><span>, trouwde met een</span> <span>Beekien</span> <span>(</span><span>Koerts</span><span>)</span> <span>Kattouw</span><span> (</span></span></span></span></span></font><font><span><span lang="nl"><span><span lang="nl"><span><span>1690-1768</span>),</span> <span>en zij hadden</span> <span>drie zonen</span><span>:</span></span></span></span><br>
<br>Albert Hendriks Kats (1716-1760)<br>Coendert Hendriks Kats (1721-1756)<br>Jacob Hendriks Kats (1726-1761)<br><br>[<a href="http://www.genealogieonline.nl//stamboom_de_vries/I2570.php/stamboom/de/vries/I2482.php" target="_blank">http://www.genealogieonline.nl//stamboom_de_vries/I2570.php/stamboom/de/vries/I2482.php</a>]<br>
</span></font><br><font><span><span lang="nl"><span>Op het eerste gezicht</span> <span>vroeg ik me af</span> <span>of er</span> is <span>een joodse connectie</span><span>, want</span> <span>deze familie</span> <span>verbonden</span> <span></span></span></span></font><font><span><span lang="nl"><span>is </span></span></span></font><font><span><span lang="nl"><span>met een familie</span> <span>met de naam</span> <span>Benjamins</span><span>,</span> <span>en</span> <span>Kats</span> <span>~</span> <span>Katz</span> <span>("kat") is een</span> <span>Asjkenazische</span> <span>versie van</span> <span>Kahan</span> <span>~</span> <span>Kohen</span> <span>~</span> <span>Kahn</span> <span>~</span> <span>Kohn</span> ~ Cohen <span>enz. (</span></span></span></font><font><span><span lang="nl"><span><span lang="nl"><span>d<span lang="nl"><span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></font><span lang="nl"><span>e naam van de</span> <span>afstammelingen</span> <span>van de bijbelse</span> <span>hogepriesters</span></span><font><span><span lang="nl"><span><span lang="nl"><span></span><span></span></span>). <span lang="nl"><span>Verder is er</span> <span>het feit dat veel</span> <span>(vooral </span><span>armere</span><span>)</span> <font><span><span lang="nl"><span>Asjkenazische</span> <span></span></span></span></font></span></span></span></span></font><font><span><span lang="nl"><span><span lang="nl"><span>Joden werden</span> <span>vernederende</span> achter<span>namen</span> <span>gegeven</span><span>.</span></span></span></span></span></font> <br>
<br><span lang="nl"><span>Maar blijkbaar</span> werden </span></span>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="nl"><span>ten minste de</span> <span>zonen en</span> <span>hun nakomelingen</span> <span>gedoopt</span><span>.</span></span> <span lang="nl"><span>(Dit geldt</span> <span>natuurlijk</span> <span>niet zeggen dat</span> <span>ze niet</span> <span>van joodse afkomst</span><span> waren.</span><span>)</span></span> <span lang="nl"><span>Maar ik denk</span> <span>dat</span> <span>dit toeval is</span><span>.<br>
</span></span><br><span lang="nl"><span><span lang="nl"><span>Is de naam </span><span>Beekien</span><span></span> overigens <span>afgeleid van</span> <span>Rebecca</span> <span>~</span> <span>Rebekka</span><span>?<br>
</span></span></span></span><font><span><span lang="nl"><span> <br></span></span>Met dank en groetjes,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br>Seattle, USA</span></font></span></div></blockquote><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span class="gI"><br>
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