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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: <span><span name="Brooks, Mark"></span></span><span><span name="Montgomery Michael"></span></span><span><span name="Veturlidi Oskarsson"></span></span><span><span name="Heinrich Becker"></span></span><span class="gI"><span name="Kevin & Cheryl Caldwell" class="gD">Kevin & Cheryl Caldwell</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net">kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net</a></span></span></span></p>






<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2012.10.01 (04) [EN-IS]</span></span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">



<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><span></span></span></p><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="is"><span></span></span></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">After
 doing a little searching online, I think the best English translation 
for “wambuis” would be either “jerkin” or “doublet.” But that doesn’t 
really help with the etymology.</span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kevin Caldwell</span></p>

<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Laurel, MD, USA</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="is"><span><br><br>----------<br></span></span><br>

</span><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: <span><span name="Brooks, Mark"></span></span><span><span name="Montgomery Michael"></span></span><span><span name="Veturlidi Oskarsson"></span></span><span><span name="Heinrich Becker"></span></span><span class="gI"><span name="Kevin & Cheryl Caldwell" class="gD">Kevin & Cheryl Caldwell</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net">kevin.caldwell1963@verizon.net</a></span></span></span></p>






<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2012.10.01 (04) [EN-IS]</span></span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">

<br><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span></span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ah, here’s a clue: the English word “gambeson” is related, and the connection seems to be OHG <i>wamba</i>, “stomach, belly” (related to “womb”).</span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a href="http://useful_english.enacademic.com/213186/gambeson" target="_blank">http://useful_english.enacademic.com/213186/gambeson</a></span></p>

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Kevin Caldwell</span></p>

<span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Laurel, MD, USA</span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="is"><span></span></span><br><span lang="is"><span><br>

----------<br><br>From: <span class="gI"><span name="M.-L. Lessing" class="gD">M.-L. Lessing</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:marless@gmx.de">marless@gmx.de</a></span></span></span></span><span lang="is"><span><br>


      Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2012.10.01 (04) [EN-IS]</span></span></span></span><br><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="is"><span>
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      </span></span></span><div><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Hello all,</font></div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">a term still very common colloquial in 
Germany is "Wampe" for the belly, especially the belly of a man, especially if 
it is somewhat considerable :-) </font></div>
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<div><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Hartlich!</font></div>
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<div style="text-align:left"><font face="Times New Roman" size="4">Marlou</font></div>
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<p style="text-align:left" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><span lang="is"><span>From: <span class="gI"><span name="M.-L. Lessing" class="gD"></span></span></span></span><span class="gI"><span name="Hellinckx Luc" class="gD">Hellinckx Luc</span> <span class="go"><a href="mailto:luc.hellinckx@gmail.com">luc.hellinckx@gmail.com</a></span></span><span lang="is"><span><br>


      Subject: <span class="gI">LL-L "Etymology"</span></span></span><br><span lang="is"><span></span></span><br>Beste Veturlidi,<br><br>
You wrote:</span>
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> what do we know about the the word MLG "wambeis", used about a sort
 of a jacket, in the 15th century and probably before and after.</span>
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Ultimately the word derives from Middle Greek "βάμβαξ" (bámbax), meaning
 "cotton", but with plenty of interference from "wambe", Old Dutch for 
"belly", and cognate with English "womb".</span>

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"Wam" is still known in older Brabantish for the gill of a fish and in 
Western Flemish for its belly. The garment however is not in use 
anymore.</span>
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Kind greetings,</span>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><br>
Luc Hellinckx, Halle, Belgium</span>
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