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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: <span><span name="Brooks, Mark"></span></span><span><span name="Montgomery Michael"></span></span><span><span name="Veturlidi Oskarsson"></span></span><span><span name="Heinrich Becker"></span></span><span><span name="Kevin & Cheryl Caldwell"></span></span><span><span name="Theo Homan">Theo Homan</span> <span><a href="mailto:theohoman@yahoo.com" target="_blank">theohoman@yahoo.com</a></span></span></span></p>








<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2012.10.02 (01) [DE-EN-NDS]</span></span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">


<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><span></span></span></p><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="is"><span>Hello Veturliði,</span></span><br>

<span lang="is"><span>
The word "wambuis" was, certainly before 1900,  in the Netherlands the</span></span></span>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><span lang="is"><span>
right word for "buis" or "kiel". It was a buttonless  piece of</span></span><br><span lang="is"><span>
clothing that covered the body from neck to hips. Such as sailors and</span></span><br><span lang="is"><span>
the Royal navy semen  wear. In the neighbourhood of Apeldoorn in the</span></span><br><span lang="is"><span>
Netherlands is a restaurant called "Planken Wambuis". It may have been</span></span><br><span lang="is"><span>
built with timber wood, but nobody knows what is has to do with</span></span><br><span lang="is"><span>
Wambuis or jacket.</span></span><br><span lang="is"><span>
I hope this will answere your question a bit.</span></span><br><span lang="is"><span>
Dick.</span></span><br><span lang="is"><span></span></span></span></blockquote><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="is"><span><br></span></span><span lang="is"><span></span></span>Hi,<br><br>As we can learn from  </span>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><a href="http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planken_Wambuis" target="_blank">http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planken_Wambuis</a><br>a "planken wambuis" is an euphemism for a coffin.<br>

<br>You certainly must be a very optimistic restaurant-owner to have a restaurant with such a name.<br><br>ps:
 well, the restaurant-name came later; the region had the name first, 
probably because people got the timber for their coffins there.</span>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><br><a href="http://vr.gr" target="_blank">vr.gr</a><br><span><font color="#888888">Theo Homan</font></span>.<span lang="is"><span><br>
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<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: <span><span name="Brooks, Mark"></span></span><span><span name="Montgomery Michael"></span></span><span><span name="Veturlidi Oskarsson"></span></span><span><span name="Heinrich Becker"></span></span><span><span name="Kevin & Cheryl Caldwell"></span></span><span><span name="Mike Morgan">Mike Morgan</span> <span><a href="mailto:mwmbombay@gmail.com" target="_blank">mwmbombay@gmail.com</a></span></span></span></p>








<p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2012.10.02 (01) [EN]</span></span></p><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">


<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br><span></span></span></p><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">As Kevin notes:<br></span>
<div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
> Ah, here’s a clue: the English word “gambeson” is related, and the<br></span>
</div><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">> connection seems to be OHG *wamba*, “stomach, belly” (related to “womb”).<br><br>
meaning, of course (?) that the English "gambe-" is a borrowing from</span>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
the (Norman) French which was a borrowing from the Germanic *wamba-<br>
(cf "war" vs French "guerre", Germanic "ward" vs Romance "garden")<br><br>
Although not sure that the source of "war" is an Indo-European root</span>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
(question: are Russian горе /gore/ "woe" and  горкий /gorkij/ "bitter"<br>
related?), the source of ward/gard(en) is; and the Indo European has a<br>
initial *g- (cf Russian город /gorod/ "town" (i.e. a walled enclosure<br>
... which is what a "garden" is as well)<br><br>
interestingly enough then English "restores" the original *g- in</span>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
"gambe(son)" by borrowing a borrowing<br><br>
ALSO not sure if the Indic गर्भ garbha- "womb" is related... -r- vs</span>
<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br>
-m- (both of which are not too uncommon as "infixes" in IE languages)<br><br>
mwm || *U*C> || mike || माईक || мика || マイク (aka Dr Michael W Morgan)</span>
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