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<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" dir="ltr"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: <span name="Heiko Evermann"><span name="Theo Homan"><span name="Roger Thijs">Joachim Kreimer-de Fries <<a href="mailto:Osnabryg%2BLowlands@googlemail.com">Osnabryg+Lowlands@googlemail.com</a>></span></span></span></font></div>

<span><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" dir="ltr"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: <span>LL-L "Etymology" 2013.02.28 [1]</span></font></div><span><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" dir="ltr">

<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt" dir="ltr"><div><span><var></var><div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Dear Lowland friends,</font><div> </div>

<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I am now allegedly a violator of law. To explain: Already 10, 15 years ago, I replaced smoking cigarettes by consuming Swedish "Snus" tobacco (on health grounds). I ordered it over years online from Sweden and got it. In the last 3 years I got sometimes problems with German toll, but got the stuff at the end. Newly (for a little order) I have to expect a fine or penalty, because of allegedly having violated German and European Union's law by importing snus (or trying to).</font></div>

<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The measure - confiscating the online bought Swedish chewing tobacco and now penalize me - is based on a rather adventurous construction.</font></div>

<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">An EU Direction (from 2001) forbids to deal (sell)  with "mouth tobacco, with is not for smoking or chewing" within EU countries (except Sweden) - and some customs authorities interpret this as a ban to order Swedish mouth tobacco (snus) even for private consumption.</font></div>

<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">IMHO all mouth tobaccos - called "chewing" or els are normally not consumed by chewing (scrunch) them, but by primarily sucking them between teeth and cheek.</font></div>

<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">So there is not principal difference between Swedish "snus" and German, Belgian or other so-called chewing tobacco, which is freely dealt and sold within all EU countries.</font></div>

<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The definition of the EU Direction (Mundtabak, der weder zum Rauchen noch zum Kauen bestimmt ist) is a failed attempt to laminate the open discrimination of a Swedish commodity within the EU. Openly done, this violated all principles of the EU.</font></div>

<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Well, what has this to do with linguistics?</font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div><div>

<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In my plea against the measures and the penalty, I'd like to add some linguistic fact about chewing (tobacco) and Swedish "snus".</font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div>

<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Therefore I would like to know the etymology of the Swedish word "snus".</font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">In my guess Swedish <i>snus</i> is related to Ripuarian (Rhenish) <i>"Schnüss"</i> LS <i>snute</i> DE <i>Schnauze</i>. All these words cover the organs of nose and mouth (e.g. of dogs). <i>Snustabaken</i> therefore Ripuarian <i>"Schnüsstabak"</i>, LS <i>snutentobak</i>, DE S<i>chnauzentabak </i>or <i>Mundtabak</i>.</font></div>

<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">My question: Am I on the right way to relate the Swedish word "snus" to Ripuarian (Rhenish) <i>"Schnüss"</i> LS <i>snute</i> DE <i>Schnauze</i> ? Other interpretations?<br>

</font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">What exactly is etymological the difference between EN snuff (De Schnupf[tabak], LS snup[tobak]) and the Swedish word "snus"?</font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div>

<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Wether this may benefit in my plea or not, I would like to know your knowledge and guessing about that question.</font></div><div><span style="text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;border-collapse:separate"><span style="text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;border-collapse:separate"><div style>

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<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">joachim</font></div></span></div></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div></span><span style="font-family:Georgia;font-size:16px"><b><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">-- OT: Please cite/quote always only the relevant/necessary part(s) of messages when answering to them, this would unburden our mailboxes a little bit! --</font></b></span><span style="text-transform:none;text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;word-spacing:0px;white-space:normal;border-collapse:separate"><div style>

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