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<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font></div><font color="#000000"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From:<span class="gD" name="Dick van Faassen"><span class="gI"> <span class="gD" name="Roger Thijs">Roger Thijs</span> <span class="go"><<a href="mailto:rogerthijs@yahoo.com">rogerthijs@yahoo.com</a>></span> </span></span></font></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: <span class="gI"> Re: LL-L "Resources" 2013.03.03 (01) [EN-TR]</span></font></div><span><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><div class="im"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: <span><span>Mustafa Umut Sarac</span> <span><<a href="mailto:mustafaumutsarac@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">mustafaumutsarac@gmail.com</a>></span></span></font></font></span></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: LL-L "Language varieties" 2013.03.02 (01) [EN]</font></span></div>
</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> ... <span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">If anyone have a Marollian Grammar book in their hands</span></font></div>
</div></span><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><div><span></span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></div><div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Let me add some comments.</font></span></div><div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">1 - We are talking about a non-standardized language: every speaker has his own version.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">2 - French speakers call "French with a few jokes with Brussels words" also "Marollien". This occurs especially in some theatre pieces in French. Some people enjoy this quite a lot but it is no language. I think it is a very old literary style. I have the "Bourgois Gentilhomme" of Molière in mind, where the would-be gentleman tries to impress with words he does not understand.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">3 - The real Brussels dialect is pure Brabantish, with a little more loans from French than the Leuven or Tienen Brabantish dialects.</font></span></div><div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Brabantish is much closer to Dutch than Flemish or Limburgish in Belgium. I don't see how to study Brabantish or Brussels Brabantish without having an high degree of proficiency in Dutch.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">4 - Marollien refers to a couple of streets with formerly poor people downtown Brussels. The area is becoming trendy nowadays with a variety of small shops, many with immigrated owners. In one of the local bars a cabaret group the "Creatief Complot" was performing a couple of years ago. Although the café was in the Marolles area, the gentlemen were from Molenbeek, a suburb of Brussels, about 2 miles West of the Marolles and they performed in the Molenbeek version of Brussels.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">5 - For some really scientific books (in Dutch) about Brussels dialect: some serious studies (the best!) date from the thirties, and one needs to have some linguistic background for understanding it all.</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">6 - However I admire your persistency and the following links may be of some help:</font></span></div><div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The academy of the Brussels dialect:</font></span></div>
<div><span><a href="http://www.avhb.be/" target="_blank"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">http://www.avhb.be/</font></a><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> <br></font><a href="http://www.avhb.be/pdf/brochurespelling.pdf" target="_blank"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">http://www.avhb.be/pdf/brochurespelling.pdf</font></a><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></div>
<div><span><span><a href="http://www.brussels.be/artdet.cfm/6900" target="_blank"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">http://www.brussels.be/artdet.cfm/6900</font></a><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></span></div>
<div><span><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Some of their publications may still be in stock. You better contact them directly. Since some of their publications are published only in 100 to 200 copies, with xeroxed pages glued together, I doubt you can get those on Amazon. Some others are professionaly printed and one can find a few copies from time to time in the City-2 Fnac bookshop downtown Brussels. You don't find them in other Fnac shops, and I don't think they are distributed from within France by </font><a href="http://www.fnac.com/" target="_blank"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">http://www.fnac.com/</font></a><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> .</font></span></span></div>
<div><span><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I see the interest for Brussels dialect is nowadays more in the Flemish municipalities in the border area around Brussels: all next performances of the Brussels Volkstheater are planned in Flemish sites at the outskirt of Brussels:</font></span></span></div>
<div><span><a href="http://www.beeveetee.be/producties/%E2%80%99n-kat-es-gin-poos/" target="_blank"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">http://www.beeveetee.be/producties/%E2%80%99n-kat-es-gin-poos/</font></a><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></div>
<div><span></span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></div><div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Good luck with your study,</font></span></div><div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards,</font></span></div>
<div><span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Roger</font></span></div></div></font></span><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;text-align:center"><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">==============================</font></span><span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font color="#000000"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">===========================<br>
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