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<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: Dick van Faassen <<a href="mailto:faasco@gmail.com" target="_blank">faasco@gmail.com</a>> </font></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2013.03.04 (01) [EN-NDS-NL]</font></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hallo Ron,<br>
<br> Zeilen brassen is to psition sails to the wind.<br> But "verbrassen" means to spill money for drinking alcohol or for<br> useless things.<br> Are there similar words in othr languages?<br><br> Groetn,<br><br>
Dick.</font></span></p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
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<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: R. F. Hahn </font><a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:blue"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">sassisch@yahoo.com</font></span></a></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Subject: Lexicon</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Dear Dick,</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">I wonder if the nautical term is unrelated.</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">I wrote: </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Verbrassen in the sense of 'to squander' is used in German and in Low Saxon of Germany as well.</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Apparently, it comes from Low Saxon <i>brassen</i> 'to change the position of a sail.'</span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">In Standard German it tends to be <i>verprassen</i> (see Marlou below) 'to squander', also <i>prassen</i> 'to squander resources on extravagant food and drink', and derived from that <i>Prasser</i> 'spendthrift'. </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">According to the <i>Herkunftsduden</i>, this is derived from Middle German <i>brasten</i> ~ <i>brassen </i>(with the same meaning) around 1500 CE which derived it in this sense from Middle Low Saxon. Middle German also had the iterative-intensive verb form <i>brasteln</i>, cognate of German <i>prasseln</i> 'crepitate', 'rattle', 'crackle', 'clatter'. Old English has <i>brastliān</i> with the same meaning. In Norwegian it is <i>brase</i>.<br>
<br> So the suggestion is that living large, feasting, carousing etc. is associated with noise-making. (Cf. German <i>in Saus und Braus leben</i> 'to have a lavish lifestyle'). </span><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Old English <i>brastliān</i> also has the meaning 'to yell', 'to roar', Old German <i>brastōn</i> 'to make a loud noise', and Old Norse <i>brasta</i> 'to boast loudly'.</font></span></div>
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<span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I am now wondering if Low Saxon <em>Brass</em> 'fury', 'rage' is related to this, as in <em>in (de) Brass kamen</em> 'to become angry'. Or is it related to <em>brassen</em> 'to adjust a sail to the wind' (= 'to pick up speed', cf. German <em>in Fahrt kommen</em> 'to pick up speed', 'to become furious')?</font></span></div>
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<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards,<br>
Reinhard/Ron<br> Seattle, USA</font></span></p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></span></p>
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<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: M.-L. Lessing <<a href="mailto:marless@gmx.de" target="_blank">marless@gmx.de</a>> </font></span></p>
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: LL-L "Lexicon" 2013.03.04 (01) [EN-NDS-NL]</font></span></p>
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<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">George Best: „Ich habe viel Geld für Alkohol, Frauen und schnelle Autos ausgegeben, den Rest habe ich einfach verprasst.“ </span><span style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">(<i>„I spent a lot of money on booze, birds and fast cars – the rest I just squandered.“</i>)</span></font></p>
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<span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:13.5pt">Musste einfach mal sein :-)</span><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"></span></p>
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<span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:13.5pt">Hartlich</span><span lang="DE" style="font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"></span></p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"></font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal">
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