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"Lexicon" 2013.03.04 (01) [EN-NDS-NL]</font></span></p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">
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</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hallo
Ron,<br>
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Zeilen brassen is to psition sails to the wind.<br>
But "verbrassen" means to spill money for drinking alcohol or for<br>
useless things.<br>
Are there similar words in othr languages?<br>
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Groetn,<br>
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Dick.</font></span></p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">
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</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Dear
Dick,</span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">
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</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">I
wonder if the nautical term is unrelated.</span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">
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</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">I
wrote: </span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">
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</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Verbrassen
in the sense of 'to squander' is used in German and in Low Saxon of Germany as
well.</span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">
</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">Apparently,
it comes from Low Saxon <i>brassen</i> 'to change the position of a sail.'</span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">
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</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">In
Standard German it tends to be <i>verprassen</i> (see Marlou below) 'to
squander', also <i>prassen</i> 'to squander resources on extravagant food
and drink', and derived from that <i>Prasser</i> 'spendthrift'. </span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">
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</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">According
to the <i>Herkunftsduden</i>, this is derived from Middle German <i>brasten</i>
~ <i>brassen </i>(with the same meaning) around 1500 CE which derived
it in this sense from Middle Low Saxon. Middle German also had the
iterative-intensive verb form <i>brasteln</i>, cognate of German <i>prasseln</i>
'crepitate', 'rattle', 'crackle', 'clatter'. Old English has <i>brastliān</i>
with the same meaning. In Norwegian it is <i>brase</i>.<br>
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So the suggestion is that living large, feasting, carousing etc. is associated
with noise-making. (Cf. German <i>in Saus und Braus leben</i> 'to have a lavish
lifestyle'). </span><span style="color:black;font-family:"Times New Roman","serif";font-size:12pt"></span></font></p><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif" size="3">
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</font><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Old
English <i>brastliān</i> also has the meaning 'to yell', 'to roar', Old German <i>brastōn</i>
'to make a loud noise', and Old Norse <i>brasta</i> 'to boast loudly'.</font></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"></span><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></div>
<div class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><span style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">I am now wondering if Low Saxon <em>Brass</em> 'fury', 'rage' is related to this, as in <em>in (de) Brass kamen</em> 'to become angry'. Or is it related to <em>brassen</em> 'to adjust a sail to the wind' (= 'to pick up speed', cf. German <em>in Fahrt kommen</em> 'to pick up speed', 'to become furious')?</font></span></div>
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</font><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0pt;line-height:normal"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span lang="DE" style="color:black;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";font-size:12pt">George Best: „Ich habe viel Geld für Alkohol, Frauen und
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