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<span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: <span name="Jonny Meibohm"><span name="Roger Thijs"><span name="Jonny Meibohm"><span name="Roger Thijs"><span name="Jonny Meibohm"><span name="Roger Thijs"><span name="Mark and Ruth Dreyer"><span name="Paul Baronowsky">Paul Baronowsky</span> <span><<a href="mailto:paulb1@insightbb.com">paulb1@insightbb.com</a>></span></span> </span></span></span></span></span></span> </font></div>
<font color="#000000"><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Subject: LL-L "Phonology" 2013.04.17 (01) [EN]</font></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></div>
<div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><div class="im"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">On 4/17/2013 6:35 PM, Ron F. Hahn wrote:<br></font><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">
<font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">What seems like a large percentage of American English speakers<br> pronounces the word "beyond" like "be-ond" ([biˈʔɔnd], instead of<br> like [biˈjɔnd]).</font></blockquote>
<br><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Hello all,<br><br> I have been subscribed to this list for a little more than a year, and this is my first post. I may well be sorry for it later, since I am a dilettante at best. If I am still welcome here afterwards, I may introduce myself properly and explain why I enjoy reading the messages to this list so much.<br>
<br> It seems to me that [biˈʔɔnd] would be more difficult to pronounce than [biˈjɔnd], and therefore less frequent. In progressing from the "i" sound, with the back of tongue against the roof of the mouth, to the "o" sound, with the tongue against the floor of the mouth, would not the "y" sound be made automatically in the absence of a glottal stop? (Try saying "ia-ia-ia" and see how the tongue moves.) Tightening the muscles of the throat to stop the flow of air between "i" and "o" would take more energy.<br>
<br> I am not questioning Ron's perception of the pronunciation. Actually, I had thought that I routinely said "be-ond", but when I listened to myself saying it, I realized that I did not insert a glottal stop, and the "i-(y)-o" was more like an automatic diphthong.<br>
<br> I realize that this is a sample of one, and therefore has no statistical reliability.<br><br> MfG, Paul (Baronowsky)<br> Evansville, Indiana, USA; retired biochemist</font></div></div></font></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt">
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<font color="#000000" face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">From: <span name="Jonny Meibohm"><span name="Roger Thijs"><span name="Jonny Meibohm"><span name="Roger Thijs"><span name="Jonny Meibohm"><span name="Roger Thijs"><span name="Mark and Ruth Dreyer">R. F. Hahn</span> <<a href="mailto:sassisch@yahoo.com" target="_blank"><font color="#0066cc">sassisch@yahoo.com</font></a><span>></span> </span></span></span></span></span></span> </font></div>
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<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Thank you very much for your response, Paul!</font></div><div> </div><div>I'm sure that your pronunciation of the word ([biˈɔnd]) is quite common too, and I now assume that it historically preceded [biˈʔɔnd], which I hear in some people slower speech. The pronunciation [biˈɔnd] does not "catch my ear" the way [biˈʔɔnd] does.</div>
<div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"> </font></div><div><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Regards,<br>Reinhard/Ron<br>Seattle, USA</font></div></div></font></span><div style="margin:0in 0in 0pt"><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font> </div>
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