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<p>Hello all,</p>
<p>in the wake of the Google and Facebook topic, I would like to add
that these people <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://swiftkey.com/de">https://swiftkey.com/de</a> are working on a Low
German keyboard app. If you look up the supported languages here
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://swiftkey.com/de/keyboard/android/">https://swiftkey.com/de/keyboard/android/</a>, you don't see it, but
here
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://support.swiftkey.com/hc/en-us/articles/201598431-What-languages-are-currently-supported-for-SwiftKey-on-Android">https://support.swiftkey.com/hc/en-us/articles/201598431-What-languages-are-currently-supported-for-SwiftKey-on-Android</a>-
it is listed. Don't ask me how to install Low German for the app,
I hate typing on a smartphone and haven't got the app. <br>
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<p>As to the dialect or type of Low German implemented there, it
will be rather strict Sass Platt. My friend Hein Thies
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://heinrichthies.de/">http://heinrichthies.de/</a>, a man of immeasurable merit and
unceasing activity for Platt, is working on it and supplying the
Swiftkey people with his word lists for the Sass Dictionaries
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://sassplatt.de/">http://sassplatt.de/</a> which he updates and continues. But of course
the app is thought to "learn" from it's user, so it should be
possible to train it to any other dialect... I would like to know,
but still I won't install the app <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span>:-)</span></span><br>
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<p>Hartlich Gröten from North Germany!</p>
<p>Marlou<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 21.07.2017 um 08:49 schrieb Lowlands
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"closest£ when it comes to languages is very dependent on
definition. A philological tree re[resents how different
languages developed; it doesn't reflect intelligibility. The
classic case is the Scandinavian languages. Norwegian
classifies as a West Norse language, on a branch with
Faroese and Icelandic. Swedish is East Norse, a distinct
branch. The reality is that most Norwegians would struggle
to understand more than a handful of words of Icelandic, but
can converse with a Swede comfortably.</span></div>
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<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b>
Friday, 21 July 2017, 6:50<br>
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Re: [Lowlands-l] Google Translate<br>
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I don't like the idea of creating a kind of rivalry
between minority languages so this thread makes me
feel uncomfortable. West Frisian is (as the North
Frisian languages and Saterfrisian) a language of
its own, even if it might show results of the
contact to Dutch. I might say the same about Dutch
as I wasn't able to learn it because my Low Saxon
was stronger and taking control. I can read Dutch
without big problems - so Dutch isn't more than a
Low Saxon dialect, right? Okay, that was a pun. I
hope you get my point.<br clear="none">
Why cannot we applaude Google Translate and Facebook
for their decision and work on for getting the same
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As for the relations between the languages around
the North Sea: Through the centuries they had many
contacts because of migration, trade and politics.
Of course that had an impact on the languages.
English is even the best example how a language
develops because of history. Anglo-Saxons, Danes,
Normans - they all came to conquer what we know
today as England. They all brought their own
languages as sign of their mastery.<br clear="none">
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Greetings from Kiel,<br clear="none">
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<div>Yes. Definitely lively, that's
why we should make Google add it.</div>
<div dir="ltr">I really don't see the
point of making West Frisian a
seperate language though, </div>
<div dir="ltr">as it doesn't contain
that much of a unique vocabulary,
and strongly resembles Dutch. </div>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi all,</div>
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<div dir="ltr"> I've
requested Facebook they
should add low german
into their language poll
since they recently had
added West Frisian which
isn't much an obvious
choice.</div>
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<div dir="ltr">That being
the case, to my surprise
Google Translate added
West Frisian as well.<br
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<div dir="ltr">I don't
consider West frisian
the closest language to
English language because
of certain reasons.
Here's what I wrote:</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Low german
(of plaudietsch
language) is spoken by
450,000 people around
the world, which is
about on par with
Frisian on the total. It
has a rich body of
literature, including
the bible, and many
unique expressions and
vowel sounds. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Compared to
what is spoken in west
friesland, it's a
fully-fledged and
dynamic language. And
while it is true that
Frisian is recognised
minority language in the
Netherlands,
Plautdietsch is
recognised in belize and
has a minority status
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agree?</div>
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