article on Aztecs II

Michael Mccafferty mmccaffe at indiana.edu
Mon Aug 9 11:04:11 UTC 1999


Well, micc, I don't think the unit phoneme that you discuss is the problem
here.

The thing that first struck me, like a huge fist, was the overbearing
Germanic -k- in the first syllable.  Mok-????????

Pow!



On Sun, 8 Aug 1999, micc wrote:

>
>
> Richard Haly wrote:
> >
> > Ouch....
> >
> > languages (ie. non european ones) where this happens. The spelling of
> > Moteuczomah as Moktekuzoma is (as J. Richard Andrews can teach us) a flag
> > that this person doesn't know Nahuatl.
>
>
> why do you say that Moktekuzoma is incorrect and moteuczomah is correct?
>
> the problem arises with the othrographic representation of the Kw sound
> in Tekwtli. originally it was written  by the spanish as
> tecutli, teuctli and teoctli, by several sources.
>
> But we know that the word has a kw sound and not a -cu sound nor a -euc
> sound.
> Like in xipe Totekw (Xipe totec)
>
> Hmmm....
>
>
>
>
>  This kind of PC appropriation
> > (Chicano of Nahua) is one of the things that I (Ph.D in hand) hate about
> > academia. First the reconquista and now the reteconquista.
> >
> > There are serious ethical issues of representation that such a book brings
> > up. I, who have done over 25 years of "fieldwork" with Nahuas and speak it
> > passably (understand it better) will only claim in my writings that what I
> > write is
> > a product of my _interaction_ with Nahua speakers. I am NOT PostModern
> > enough to admit such readings of the sources as Vento apparently feels
> > entitled to.
> >
> > ye ixquich.
> >
> > Richard Haly
> >
> > ----------
> > >From: Mel Sanchez <melesan at pacbell.net>
> > >To: Multiple recipients of list <nahuat-l at server.umt.edu>
> > >Subject: Re: article on Aztecs II
> > >Date: Sun, Aug 08, 1999, 21:07
> > >
> >
> > > Take a look at this from amazon.com:
> > >
> > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ts/book-contents/0761809201/qid=934166
> > > 480/sr=1-17/002-5080852-7218268
>


Michael McCafferty
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