From schwallr at selway.umt.edu  Mon Nov 13 17:38:02 2000
From: schwallr at selway.umt.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:38:02 -0700
Subject: Nicene Creed
Message-ID: <MON.13.NOV.2000.103802.0700.>

Dear List members,

I am working on an article part of which will look at the changes which
occurred in the missionary efforts to communicate the fundamentals of
Christianity in Nahuatl.  As a result I am focusing on how various basic
prayers and credal statements were translated into Nahuatl over the 16th
and seventeenth century.  Barry Sell and I touch on this issue in our book
on the Bartolome de Alva Confessionario, but I would like to extend my net
a bit further.  If anyone has a Nicene creed in Nahuatl, I'd appreciate
seeing it.  Apostle's Creed would be OK too.

John Frederick Schwaller                             schwallr at selway.umt.edu
Associate Provost                                        406-243-4722
The University of Montana                           FAX 406-243-5937
                               http://www.umt.edu/provost/


From karl-heinz.gruessner at ub.uni-tuebingen.de  Mon Nov 13 17:08:49 2000
From: karl-heinz.gruessner at ub.uni-tuebingen.de (Karl-Heinz Gruessner)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:08:49 +0200
Subject: Nicene Creed
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001113103137.024ac140@selway.umt.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.13.NOV.2000.190849.0200.>

> Date:          Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:38:02 -0700
> To:            nahuat-l at server2.umt.edu
> From:          "John F. Schwaller" <schwallr at selway.umt.edu>
> Subject:       Nicene Creed
> Reply-to:      nahuat-l at server2.umt.edu

> Dear List members,
>
> I am working on an article part of which will look at the changes which
> occurred in the missionary efforts to communicate the fundamentals of
> Christianity in Nahuatl.  As a result I am focusing on how various basic
> prayers and credal statements were translated into Nahuatl over the 16th
> and seventeenth century.  Barry Sell and I touch on this issue in our book
> on the Bartolome de Alva Confessionario, but I would like to extend my net
> a bit further.  If anyone has a Nicene creed in Nahuatl, I'd appreciate
> seeing it.  Apostle's Creed would be OK too.
>
> John Frederick Schwaller                             schwallr at selway.umt.edu
> Associate Provost                                        406-243-4722
> The University of Montana                           FAX 406-243-5937
>                                http://www.umt.edu/provost/
>

Dear Fritz,
 Regarding your wish I cannot help you. But I have a question and I
hope you can help.
 I am working as a librarian at the University library of Tuebingen,
Germany <www.uni-tuebingen.de/ub> as librarian responsible for
Drawidian and tribal languages of South Asia and for minority
languages as. e.g. American Indian languages.
We have at our library a book with the title:
 <<<Evangeliarium epistolarium et lectionarium
 Aztecum sive Mexicanum
  ex antiquo codice mexicano nuper reperto
    depromptum cum praefatione interpretatione adnotationibus
glossario edidit
   Bernardinus Biondelli.
 Mediolani: Typis Jos. Bernardoni Q.m Johannis, MDCCCLVIII>>>
  XLIX, 574 p.  4°  (h 34 cm, b 26)
 Praface in Latin, text in Nahuatl and Latin.
 Is this a rare book?
  I should be thankful if you could tell me something more about it.
   Yours
    Karl-Heinz
----------------------------------------------------------
Dr. Karl-Heinz Gruessner
Universitaetsbibliothek
Postfach 2620
D-72016 Tuebingen

Tel.: (49) +7071-294539
Fax.: (49) +7071-293123

----------------------------------------------------------


From swood at darkwing.uoregon.edu  Mon Nov 13 18:18:07 2000
From: swood at darkwing.uoregon.edu (Stephanie Wood)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:18:07 -0800
Subject: Text and image donations?
Message-ID: <MON.13.NOV.2000.101807.0800.>

Dear List members,

Together with a team here at the University of Oregon, I am putting together
a database of texts and images called "Gender in Early Mesoamerica."  If you
have any short texts (paragraphs or short documents from the sixteenth
through eighteenth centuries that you have transcribed and translated from
indigenous languages of Mesoamerica) or any photographs you have taken of
pictorials, stone carvings, pottery, etc., that you'd be willing to donate
(with full attribution) to this database, please contact me.  We would be
delighted to receive anything that might highlight gender roles and
attributes (male, female, transgender), whether directly or indirectly.  We
are interested in gods/goddesses, creation stories, historical narratives,
prescribed behavior, information about daily life, etc.

If your materials are as yet unpublished, that would be wonderful.  If you
have materials that have been published but for which you might be able to
help us obtain copyright permissions, that would also be super.  Naturally,
we will want as much information as possible about the location of the
original texts and information about the images (who took the photograph,
what does it capture, when, where, etc.).

We are additionally looking for people who are native speakers who might be
willing to read some short texts aloud into a tape recorder, so we can make
digital sound files.  We will be trying to get a grant to pay for such help.

As we currently envision it, the database will eventually be fully
searchable and accessible free online to the benefit of anyone interested in
the topic.  It will also have a feature where visitors can respond to
interpretations of the material and leave their own analyses, to be
incorporated into the database.  We'd love to have it be an international,
cooperative endeavor.

Discussion of the idea behind the database would be welcomed on the list.
You may also respond to me privately.

Many thanks, Stephanie Wood


From indus56 at telusplanet.net  Thu Nov 23 20:30:10 2000
From: indus56 at telusplanet.net (Paul Anderson)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 13:30:10 -0700
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "puma" "cougar"
Message-ID: <THU.23.NOV.2000.133010.0700.>

Hi all, would anyone know off hand what the Nahuatl for "cougar" or
"puma" is?
cheers, Paul Anderson
(I can be reached off-list at
indus56 at telusplanet.net
)


From noharm at worldonline.nl  Sun Nov 26 19:25:16 2000
From: noharm at worldonline.nl (noharm at worldonline.nl)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:25:16 +0100
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "puma" "cougar"
Message-ID: <SUN.26.NOV.2000.202516.0100.>

I think it is "Tecuani"
Harm Puite 23-11-00 13:30:10, Paul Anderson
<indus56 at telusplanet.net> wrote:

>Hi all, would anyone know off hand what the Nahuatl for "cougar"
or
>"puma" is?
>cheers, Paul Anderson
>(I can be reached off-list at
>indus56 at telusplanet.net
>)
>
>
>


From muyalbalam03 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 27 11:13:37 2000
From: muyalbalam03 at hotmail.com (Roberto Tirado)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:13:37 -0800
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "puma" "cougar"
Message-ID: <MON.27.NOV.2000.031337.0800.>

MIZTLI
- frances karttunen . an analytical dictionary of nahuatl

From: noharm at worldonline.nl
Reply-To: nahuat-l at server2.umt.edu
To: nahuat-l at server2.umt.edu
Subject: Re: Query: Nahuatl for "puma" "cougar"
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:25:16 +0100

I think it is "Tecuani"
Harm Puite 23-11-00 13:30:10, Paul Anderson
<indus56 at telusplanet.net> wrote:

 >Hi all, would anyone know off hand what the Nahuatl for "cougar"
or
 >"puma" is?
 >cheers, Paul Anderson
 >(I can be reached off-list at
 >indus56 at telusplanet.net
 >)
 >
 >
 >




_____________________________________________________________________________________
Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com


From heatherhess at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 28 16:07:15 2000
From: heatherhess at hotmail.com (Heather Hess)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:07:15 -0500
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "Venus"
Message-ID: <TUE.28.NOV.2000.110715.0500.>

Frances and Listeros:  Could you please give the Nahuatl (and spanish) word
for Venus.  Thanks!  Yolohtzin
_____________________________________________________________________________________
Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com


From HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com  Wed Nov 29 04:38:10 2000
From: HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com (HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:38:10 EST
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "Venus"
Message-ID: <TUE.28.NOV.2000.233810.EST.>

The Spanish word for Venus is "Venus", pronounced in Spanish, of course. It
sounds something like [VEH-noose]. I'm not sure about the Nahuatl word. There
was some debate concerning that last year.

                                            Henry Vasquez


From jsullivan at prodigy.net.mx  Wed Nov 29 15:34:44 2000
From: jsullivan at prodigy.net.mx (John Sullivan)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:34:44 -0600
Subject: Confesionario Mayor de Molina
Message-ID: <WED.29.NOV.2000.093444.0600.>

I just started reading Alonso de Molina's Confesionario Mayor (UNAM, 1984),
and I came across a grammatical (or printer's error), I think, in the first
sentence of the book. The sentence reads: "Nican ompeua ynneyolmelaualoni,
yn oquimotlalili yn oquitecpanili padre Fray Alonso de Molina..." Shouldn't
the second reverential read, "oquimotecpanili"?
    John Sullivan
    Universidad Autónoma de Zacatecas


From david.gloster at muenchen.roses.de  Wed Nov 29 21:33:16 2000
From: david.gloster at muenchen.roses.de (David Gloster)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:33:16 +0100
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "Venus"
Message-ID: <WED.29.NOV.2000.223316.0100.>

As no one else has yet come forth with an answer, here's my try:

I seem to remember that Venus had two names in Nahuatl depending on whether it was
visible as the morning star or the evening star. I think the morning name was
TLAHUIZCALPANTEUCTLI but I've no way of checking it. Maybe someone with a dictionary at
hand could look it up and confirm. I'm afraid I can't help you with the evening version,
though.

Best of luck
David Gloster


Heather Hess wrote:

> Frances and Listeros:  Could you please give the Nahuatl (and spanish) word
> for Venus.  Thanks!  Yolohtzin


From vogelm01 at student.ucr.edu  Wed Nov 29 22:01:51 2000
From: vogelm01 at student.ucr.edu (Matthew Vogel)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:01:51 -0800
Subject: Calendar
In-Reply-To: <B64A7E33.44A%jsullivan@prodigy.net.mx>
Message-ID: <WED.29.NOV.2000.140151.0800.>

Just a naive question... I heard that the aztec calendar had a definite
end somewhere in the near future. Is this true?, and if so when would that
be?


From cberry at cinenet.net  Wed Nov 29 22:34:27 2000
From: cberry at cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:34:27 -0800
Subject: Calendar
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0011291400070.8436-100000@hemera.ucr.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.29.NOV.2000.143427.0800.>

On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Matthew Vogel wrote:

> Just a naive question... I heard that the aztec calendar had a definite
> end somewhere in the near future. Is this true?, and if so when would that
> be?

The Aztec calendar is closely related to the Mayan calendar, but the
latter tracks much longer cycles of time.  We hit the end of one such (the
12th "baktun", a period of nearly 400 years) near the winter solstice in
2012.  According to some interpretations this marks the end of the world.
So don't make any big plans for early 2013. :)

--
   |   Craig Berry - http://www.cinenet.net/~cberry/
 --*--  "Here's to the struggles of the silent war,
   |   here's to the closing of the age." -The Call


From jimk at fbg.net  Thu Nov 30 02:27:45 2000
From: jimk at fbg.net (Jim Konopka)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:27:45 -0600
Subject: Calendar
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.1001129142800.27224K-100000@hollywood.cinenet.net>
Message-ID: <WED.29.NOV.2000.202745.0600.>

Hi All , I was wondering if anyone would know which is the best
Mayan/Aztec calendar to use with Windows . The last one I tried
launched Basic  ( I think) and I had to turn off the PC because I
couldn't even figure out how to  close the programme .
Jim Konopka


>On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Matthew Vogel wrote:
>
>> Just a naive question... I heard that the aztec calendar had a definite
>> end somewhere in the near future. Is this true?, and if so when would that
>> be?
>
>The Aztec calendar is closely related to the Mayan calendar, but the
>latter tracks much longer cycles of time.  We hit the end of one such (the
>12th "baktun", a period of nearly 400 years) near the winter solstice in
>2012.  According to some interpretations this marks the end of the world.
>So don't make any big plans for early 2013. :)


From schwallr at selway.umt.edu  Mon Nov 13 17:38:02 2000
From: schwallr at selway.umt.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:38:02 -0700
Subject: Nicene Creed
Message-ID: <MON.13.NOV.2000.103802.0700.>

Dear List members,

I am working on an article part of which will look at the changes which
occurred in the missionary efforts to communicate the fundamentals of
Christianity in Nahuatl.  As a result I am focusing on how various basic
prayers and credal statements were translated into Nahuatl over the 16th
and seventeenth century.  Barry Sell and I touch on this issue in our book
on the Bartolome de Alva Confessionario, but I would like to extend my net
a bit further.  If anyone has a Nicene creed in Nahuatl, I'd appreciate
seeing it.  Apostle's Creed would be OK too.

John Frederick Schwaller                             schwallr at selway.umt.edu
Associate Provost                                        406-243-4722
The University of Montana                           FAX 406-243-5937
                               http://www.umt.edu/provost/


From karl-heinz.gruessner at ub.uni-tuebingen.de  Mon Nov 13 17:08:49 2000
From: karl-heinz.gruessner at ub.uni-tuebingen.de (Karl-Heinz Gruessner)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 19:08:49 +0200
Subject: Nicene Creed
In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20001113103137.024ac140@selway.umt.edu>
Message-ID: <MON.13.NOV.2000.190849.0200.>

> Date:          Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:38:02 -0700
> To:            nahuat-l at server2.umt.edu
> From:          "John F. Schwaller" <schwallr at selway.umt.edu>
> Subject:       Nicene Creed
> Reply-to:      nahuat-l at server2.umt.edu

> Dear List members,
>
> I am working on an article part of which will look at the changes which
> occurred in the missionary efforts to communicate the fundamentals of
> Christianity in Nahuatl.  As a result I am focusing on how various basic
> prayers and credal statements were translated into Nahuatl over the 16th
> and seventeenth century.  Barry Sell and I touch on this issue in our book
> on the Bartolome de Alva Confessionario, but I would like to extend my net
> a bit further.  If anyone has a Nicene creed in Nahuatl, I'd appreciate
> seeing it.  Apostle's Creed would be OK too.
>
> John Frederick Schwaller                             schwallr at selway.umt.edu
> Associate Provost                                        406-243-4722
> The University of Montana                           FAX 406-243-5937
>                                http://www.umt.edu/provost/
>

Dear Fritz,
 Regarding your wish I cannot help you. But I have a question and I
hope you can help.
 I am working as a librarian at the University library of Tuebingen,
Germany <www.uni-tuebingen.de/ub> as librarian responsible for
Drawidian and tribal languages of South Asia and for minority
languages as. e.g. American Indian languages.
We have at our library a book with the title:
 <<<Evangeliarium epistolarium et lectionarium
 Aztecum sive Mexicanum
  ex antiquo codice mexicano nuper reperto
    depromptum cum praefatione interpretatione adnotationibus
glossario edidit
   Bernardinus Biondelli.
 Mediolani: Typis Jos. Bernardoni Q.m Johannis, MDCCCLVIII>>>
  XLIX, 574 p.  4?  (h 34 cm, b 26)
 Praface in Latin, text in Nahuatl and Latin.
 Is this a rare book?
  I should be thankful if you could tell me something more about it.
   Yours
    Karl-Heinz
----------------------------------------------------------
Dr. Karl-Heinz Gruessner
Universitaetsbibliothek
Postfach 2620
D-72016 Tuebingen

Tel.: (49) +7071-294539
Fax.: (49) +7071-293123

----------------------------------------------------------


From swood at darkwing.uoregon.edu  Mon Nov 13 18:18:07 2000
From: swood at darkwing.uoregon.edu (Stephanie Wood)
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2000 10:18:07 -0800
Subject: Text and image donations?
Message-ID: <MON.13.NOV.2000.101807.0800.>

Dear List members,

Together with a team here at the University of Oregon, I am putting together
a database of texts and images called "Gender in Early Mesoamerica."  If you
have any short texts (paragraphs or short documents from the sixteenth
through eighteenth centuries that you have transcribed and translated from
indigenous languages of Mesoamerica) or any photographs you have taken of
pictorials, stone carvings, pottery, etc., that you'd be willing to donate
(with full attribution) to this database, please contact me.  We would be
delighted to receive anything that might highlight gender roles and
attributes (male, female, transgender), whether directly or indirectly.  We
are interested in gods/goddesses, creation stories, historical narratives,
prescribed behavior, information about daily life, etc.

If your materials are as yet unpublished, that would be wonderful.  If you
have materials that have been published but for which you might be able to
help us obtain copyright permissions, that would also be super.  Naturally,
we will want as much information as possible about the location of the
original texts and information about the images (who took the photograph,
what does it capture, when, where, etc.).

We are additionally looking for people who are native speakers who might be
willing to read some short texts aloud into a tape recorder, so we can make
digital sound files.  We will be trying to get a grant to pay for such help.

As we currently envision it, the database will eventually be fully
searchable and accessible free online to the benefit of anyone interested in
the topic.  It will also have a feature where visitors can respond to
interpretations of the material and leave their own analyses, to be
incorporated into the database.  We'd love to have it be an international,
cooperative endeavor.

Discussion of the idea behind the database would be welcomed on the list.
You may also respond to me privately.

Many thanks, Stephanie Wood


From indus56 at telusplanet.net  Thu Nov 23 20:30:10 2000
From: indus56 at telusplanet.net (Paul Anderson)
Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 13:30:10 -0700
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "puma" "cougar"
Message-ID: <THU.23.NOV.2000.133010.0700.>

Hi all, would anyone know off hand what the Nahuatl for "cougar" or
"puma" is?
cheers, Paul Anderson
(I can be reached off-list at
indus56 at telusplanet.net
)


From noharm at worldonline.nl  Sun Nov 26 19:25:16 2000
From: noharm at worldonline.nl (noharm at worldonline.nl)
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:25:16 +0100
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "puma" "cougar"
Message-ID: <SUN.26.NOV.2000.202516.0100.>

I think it is "Tecuani"
Harm Puite 23-11-00 13:30:10, Paul Anderson
<indus56 at telusplanet.net> wrote:

>Hi all, would anyone know off hand what the Nahuatl for "cougar"
or
>"puma" is?
>cheers, Paul Anderson
>(I can be reached off-list at
>indus56 at telusplanet.net
>)
>
>
>


From muyalbalam03 at hotmail.com  Mon Nov 27 11:13:37 2000
From: muyalbalam03 at hotmail.com (Roberto Tirado)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2000 03:13:37 -0800
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "puma" "cougar"
Message-ID: <MON.27.NOV.2000.031337.0800.>

MIZTLI
- frances karttunen . an analytical dictionary of nahuatl

From: noharm at worldonline.nl
Reply-To: nahuat-l at server2.umt.edu
To: nahuat-l at server2.umt.edu
Subject: Re: Query: Nahuatl for "puma" "cougar"
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 2000 20:25:16 +0100

I think it is "Tecuani"
Harm Puite 23-11-00 13:30:10, Paul Anderson
<indus56 at telusplanet.net> wrote:

 >Hi all, would anyone know off hand what the Nahuatl for "cougar"
or
 >"puma" is?
 >cheers, Paul Anderson
 >(I can be reached off-list at
 >indus56 at telusplanet.net
 >)
 >
 >
 >




_____________________________________________________________________________________
Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com


From heatherhess at hotmail.com  Tue Nov 28 16:07:15 2000
From: heatherhess at hotmail.com (Heather Hess)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 11:07:15 -0500
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "Venus"
Message-ID: <TUE.28.NOV.2000.110715.0500.>

Frances and Listeros:  Could you please give the Nahuatl (and spanish) word
for Venus.  Thanks!  Yolohtzin
_____________________________________________________________________________________
Get more from the Web.  FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com


From HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com  Wed Nov 29 04:38:10 2000
From: HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com (HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 23:38:10 EST
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "Venus"
Message-ID: <TUE.28.NOV.2000.233810.EST.>

The Spanish word for Venus is "Venus", pronounced in Spanish, of course. It
sounds something like [VEH-noose]. I'm not sure about the Nahuatl word. There
was some debate concerning that last year.

                                            Henry Vasquez


From jsullivan at prodigy.net.mx  Wed Nov 29 15:34:44 2000
From: jsullivan at prodigy.net.mx (John Sullivan)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 09:34:44 -0600
Subject: Confesionario Mayor de Molina
Message-ID: <WED.29.NOV.2000.093444.0600.>

I just started reading Alonso de Molina's Confesionario Mayor (UNAM, 1984),
and I came across a grammatical (or printer's error), I think, in the first
sentence of the book. The sentence reads: "Nican ompeua ynneyolmelaualoni,
yn oquimotlalili yn oquitecpanili padre Fray Alonso de Molina..." Shouldn't
the second reverential read, "oquimotecpanili"?
    John Sullivan
    Universidad Aut?noma de Zacatecas


From david.gloster at muenchen.roses.de  Wed Nov 29 21:33:16 2000
From: david.gloster at muenchen.roses.de (David Gloster)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 22:33:16 +0100
Subject: Query: Nahuatl for "Venus"
Message-ID: <WED.29.NOV.2000.223316.0100.>

As no one else has yet come forth with an answer, here's my try:

I seem to remember that Venus had two names in Nahuatl depending on whether it was
visible as the morning star or the evening star. I think the morning name was
TLAHUIZCALPANTEUCTLI but I've no way of checking it. Maybe someone with a dictionary at
hand could look it up and confirm. I'm afraid I can't help you with the evening version,
though.

Best of luck
David Gloster


Heather Hess wrote:

> Frances and Listeros:  Could you please give the Nahuatl (and spanish) word
> for Venus.  Thanks!  Yolohtzin


From vogelm01 at student.ucr.edu  Wed Nov 29 22:01:51 2000
From: vogelm01 at student.ucr.edu (Matthew Vogel)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:01:51 -0800
Subject: Calendar
In-Reply-To: <B64A7E33.44A%jsullivan@prodigy.net.mx>
Message-ID: <WED.29.NOV.2000.140151.0800.>

Just a naive question... I heard that the aztec calendar had a definite
end somewhere in the near future. Is this true?, and if so when would that
be?


From cberry at cinenet.net  Wed Nov 29 22:34:27 2000
From: cberry at cinenet.net (Craig Berry)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 14:34:27 -0800
Subject: Calendar
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0011291400070.8436-100000@hemera.ucr.edu>
Message-ID: <WED.29.NOV.2000.143427.0800.>

On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Matthew Vogel wrote:

> Just a naive question... I heard that the aztec calendar had a definite
> end somewhere in the near future. Is this true?, and if so when would that
> be?

The Aztec calendar is closely related to the Mayan calendar, but the
latter tracks much longer cycles of time.  We hit the end of one such (the
12th "baktun", a period of nearly 400 years) near the winter solstice in
2012.  According to some interpretations this marks the end of the world.
So don't make any big plans for early 2013. :)

--
   |   Craig Berry - http://www.cinenet.net/~cberry/
 --*--  "Here's to the struggles of the silent war,
   |   here's to the closing of the age." -The Call


From jimk at fbg.net  Thu Nov 30 02:27:45 2000
From: jimk at fbg.net (Jim Konopka)
Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2000 20:27:45 -0600
Subject: Calendar
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95.1001129142800.27224K-100000@hollywood.cinenet.net>
Message-ID: <WED.29.NOV.2000.202745.0600.>

Hi All , I was wondering if anyone would know which is the best
Mayan/Aztec calendar to use with Windows . The last one I tried
launched Basic  ( I think) and I had to turn off the PC because I
couldn't even figure out how to  close the programme .
Jim Konopka


>On Wed, 29 Nov 2000, Matthew Vogel wrote:
>
>> Just a naive question... I heard that the aztec calendar had a definite
>> end somewhere in the near future. Is this true?, and if so when would that
>> be?
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>The Aztec calendar is closely related to the Mayan calendar, but the
>latter tracks much longer cycles of time.  We hit the end of one such (the
>12th "baktun", a period of nearly 400 years) near the winter solstice in
>2012.  According to some interpretations this marks the end of the world.
>So don't make any big plans for early 2013. :)