From aztec at mail.utexas.edu  Sun Sep  2 03:58:29 2001
From: aztec at mail.utexas.edu (Greg Whitworth)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:58:29 -0500
Subject: fullbright proposal in nahuatl studies for graduating seniors
Message-ID: <SAT.1.SEP.2001.225829.0500.AZTEC@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU>

I will be a graduating senior at the University of Texas at Austin and I am
considering applying for a fullbright fellowship to study nahuatl in Mexico in
2002-2003.  I am seeking some advice as to the feasibility of this possible
project.  In general, the fullbright for graduating seniors and first semester
graduate students emphasizes class work and mentor relationships in the host
country over and above truly independent research.  I would like to ask this
forum if there are any universities with respected programs in studying nahuatl
particularly but especially with the aim of rendering texts during the colonial
period.  I would like to have a few Mexican contacts that I can converse with
in order to construct my proposal and demonstrate that the chosen affiliated
institution can support and encourage such an endeavor.  The training could be
in classical, colonial or modern spoken nahuatl, whatever is most feasible
really.  It could also have a brief fieldwork component (such as studying in
a nahua village) and my coursework could also include courses in ethnohistory or
colonial history.

Anyways, I would appreciate any advice that anyone might have and Mexican (or
other) scholars who might be able to assist me.  My main concern is whether I
should just do my language studies in the US and formulate another topic
related to contemporary anthropolgy or colonial history.

Sincerely,

Greg Whitworth
University of Texas at Austin
History Department


From schwallr at mrs.umn.edu  Wed Sep  5 13:29:31 2001
From: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:29:31 -0500
Subject: fullbright proposal for graduating seniors in nahuatl studies
Message-ID: <WED.5.SEP.2001.082931.0500.SCHWALLR@MRS.UMN.EDU>

approve: nahuat-l.pass
To: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu, schwallr at selway.umt.edu
Subject: fullbright proposal for graduating seniors in nahuatl studies
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 22:32:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: Greg Whitworth <aztec at mail.utexas.edu>



I will be a graduating senior at the University of Texas at Austin and I am
considering applying for a fullbright fellowship to study nahuatl in Mexico in
2002-2003. I am seeking some advice as to the feasibility of this possible
project. In general, the fullbright for graduating seniors and first semester
graduate students emphasizes class work and mentor relationships in the host
country over and above truly independent research. I would like to ask this
forum if there are any universities with respected programs in studying
nahuatl
particularly but especially with the aim of rendering texts during the
colonial
period. I would like to have a few Mexican contacts that I can converse with
in order to construct my proposal and demonstrate that the chosen affiliated
institution can support and encourage such an endeavor. The training could be
in classical, colonial or modern spoken nahuatl, whatever is most feasible
really. It could also have a brief fieldwork component (such as studying in
Tlahuica or in other locales) and my studies could also include courses in
ethnohistory or colonial history.
Anyways, I would appreciate any advice that anyone might have and Mexican (or
other) scholars who might be able to assist me. My main concern is whether I
should just do my language studies in the US and formulate another topic
related to contemporary anthropolgy or colonial history (which may necessitate
another missive to the listserve for further advice).
Sincerely,
Greg Whitworth
University of Texas at Austin
History Department


From mayala.castro at caramail.com  Thu Sep  6 12:06:41 2001
From: mayala.castro at caramail.com (Mayala CASTRO)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:06:41 GMT+1
Subject: mayala
Message-ID: <THU.6.SEP.2001.120641.GMT1.MAYALA.CASTRO@CARAMAIL.COM>

My name is Mayala ; it's a nahuatl word which means the
hand that purrs / carresses. But I don't know how to
represent it like the Aztecas did. If someone knew the
signs to write my name (Azteca's typographie), please tell
it to me. Thank you very much for your help.

Mayala
______________________________________________________
Boîte aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com


From juergen.stowasser at univie.ac.at  Thu Sep  6 20:04:19 2001
From: juergen.stowasser at univie.ac.at (Juergen Stowasser)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:04:19 +0200
Subject: Call for Papers/Convocatoria "Cultural Change in 16th Century
 Mexico"
Message-ID: <THU.6.SEP.2001.220419.0200.JUERGEN.STOWASSER@UNIVIE.AC.AT>

Please circulate widely

*************************************************************

CONFERENCE  "Cultural Change in 16th Century Mexico"
(Goettweig -  June 7- 9, 2002)
http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/conference.htm
http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/simposio.htm

The University of Vienna (Institute for the Study of Religions and
Institute of History) and the Austrian Latin America Institute are
organizing a symposium on cultural change in Mesoamerica after the
Conquista of Central Mexico 1519-1521. Scholars from Mexico, the United
States and Europe will debate the various aspects of the cultural
(social, religious, political,...) change in colonial Mexico.
The conference´s emphasis lies on an interdisciplinary and comparative
perspective and on approaches from different disciplines such as
ethnohistory, cultural studies, semiotics, intercultural philosophy and
comparative religious studies. Cultural change is understood as dynamic
and heterogenous process in which the "aculturated ones" participate in
an active, creative and sometimes also subversive way. A special focus
of the meeting will be the analysis of colonial codices as documents of
cultural change (but papers basing on
other sources are welcome as well). In addition to the presentation of
studies of postconquest Mexico, the conference will also reflect on
models of cultural change in general and ask for a greater understanding
of intercultural encounter situations.

The symposium will be held at the Monastery of Goettweig (founded in
1083) near Vienna. Registration will be open to all interested persons
(Fee: $100/students $50).
The conference will include key note speeches and lectures from invited
speakers and mesas redondas (working seminars) with a limited number of
participants. A workshop on Nahua writing system will be held from June
9 - 12 in Vienna.

Registration: http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/conference/form.htm

CALL FOR PAPERS

The conference aims to discuss the impact of the Conquista in Central
Mexico and to take a critical look at models of cultural and social
transformation. We encourage an interdisciplinary approach and
contributions from different fields: ethnohistory, social and cultural
anthropology, gender studies, linguistics, semiotics, discourse analysis
etc. The symposium is further concerned to direct attention towards
colonial codices as important sources for the analysis of the
postconquest period. We invite papers focusing on

-    Understanding cultural change in its heterogeneity: religious
aspects, early mission, ecological dimensions, the role of epidemics,
economic changes,
gender concepts,...
-    Cultural change and literacy: Mesoamerican and European writing
traditions
-    Colonial codices: case studies
-    Between adaption and resistance: ruptures and continuities of
Mesoamerican traditions in the colonial period
-    Methodic questions of intercultural interpretation
-    Reflections on models  of cultural change, acculturation,
"sincretism",...

SUBMISSION OF PAPERS:
All paper sessions are limited to 10-15 minutes length and 5 minutes for
questions/discussion. Proposals for papers must include the registration
form and an abstract of max. 300 words (to be sent in e-mail body or as
rtf-file to abstracts at correoweb.com).
Deadline for submission is January 31, 2002. Confirmation of acceptance
will be no later than 20th February 2002. Accepted abstracts wil be
posted on http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/conference/abstracts.htm. All
papers given at the conference will be published in an anthology.

Proposals for mesas redondas:
Submitted papers wil be read in mesas redondas focusing on the topics
listed above. We accept also proposals of complete mesas on each topic
within the general theme of the conference.

For further questions please check our website
http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/conference.htm
Español: http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/simposio.htm


--
Juergen Stowasser
Burggasse 114/2/8
A-1070 Wien - Vien(n)a
Austria
tel: 01/ 524 54 60  v  0676/ 398 66 79
http://www.univie.ac.at/meso


From mdmorris at indiana.edu  Fri Sep  7 16:46:57 2001
From: mdmorris at indiana.edu (Mark David Morris)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:46:57 -0500
Subject: Nahuatl On-line sources
Message-ID: <FRI.7.SEP.2001.114657.0500.MDMORRIS@INDIANA.EDU>

Listos,

I've volunteerd to put together a list of Nahuatl on-line resources for
H-LATAM.  I would appreciate any references from members of the list.
Also, if Alec would be kind enough to post again the link to Nahuatl texts
off his page, I would be grateful.

thanks,
Mark Morris



















~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

La muerte tiene permiso a todo

MDM, PhD Candidate
Dept. of History, Indiana Univ.


From Huaxyacac at aol.com  Fri Sep  7 18:00:04 2001
From: Huaxyacac at aol.com (Huaxyacac at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:00:04 EDT
Subject: Nahuatl On-line sources
Message-ID: <FRI.7.SEP.2001.140004.EDT.>

In response to Mark's question, http://anthropology.about.com/cs/mesoamerica/
has links to both my general Aztec page and my Mesoamerican texts page, each
of which has a batch of links on it.

While I'm writing, a general question for the rest of you. I'm currently
working on a paper on Colonial language use in the Mezquital, and I'm curious
if anyone knows of any Otomi or Nahuatl documents from the area, particularly
from the eastern portion (i.e., the Teotlalpan). I know of a handful of Otomi
documents from around Xilotepec, and two Nahuatl ones, from Tlahuelilpan and
Ixmiquilpan. But that's it. I have been particularly surprised by the absence
of Nahuatl documents from Tula, where the language was used in parish
registers until 1650 or so. I keep worrying that I'm overlooking something.
Anyone know of others?

Cheers,

Alec Christensen
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From schwallr at mrs.umn.edu  Mon Sep 10 11:47:38 2001
From: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu (John F Schwaller)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:47:38 -0500
Subject: Thank You
Message-ID: <MON.10.SEP.2001.064738.0500.SCHWALLR@MRS.UMN.EDU>

Dear List members,

Please do not reply IN ANY FASHION to the e-mail from the "bulk mailer"
It will cause two things to happen:

1.  You may create even more unwanted traffic on Nahuat-l

2.  Your address will be recorded by the bulk e-mailer as a "live"
address, and thus will be sold as a valid e-mail address, guaranteeing you
of even more junk mail.

Our technical staff is working on how to avoid this in the future.  We
have software to keep out junk mail, but this was a very clerver
penetration of the list.  I apologize.

J. F. Schwaller, List Owner


From john at mrs.umn.edu  Mon Sep 10 13:00:59 2001
From: john at mrs.umn.edu (John Bowers)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:00:59 -0500
Subject: List test
Message-ID: <MON.10.SEP.2001.080059.0500.JOHN@MRS.UMN.EDU>

This message is a test of the list configuration.  Please ignore.  Thanks.

John Bowers
UMM Computing Services


From schwallr at mrs.umn.edu  Tue Sep 11 14:44:36 2001
From: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:44:36 -0500
Subject: Nahuatl On-line sources
Message-ID: <TUE.11.SEP.2001.094436.0500.SCHWALLR@MRS.UMN.EDU>

Several years ago I published a cofradia constitution from Tula dating from
the 1570s.  It appeared in the Estudios de Cultura Nahuatl.


At 02:00 PM 9/7/01 -0400, you wrote:
>. I have been particularly surprised by the absence
>of Nahuatl documents from Tula, where the language was used in parish
>registers until 1650 or so.

John F. Schwaller
Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Dean
315 Behmler Hall
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
FAX 320-589-6399
schwallr at mrs.umn.edu


From schwallr at mrs.umn.edu  Tue Sep 25 15:51:15 2001
From: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:51:15 -0500
Subject: Netiquette
Message-ID: <TUE.25.SEP.2001.105115.0500.SCHWALLR@MRS.UMN.EDU>

The following was posted on LINGUIST and forwarded to me.  It seems
relevant to our discussions so here it is:

Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:15:23 -0000
From: LINGUIST List <linguist at linguistlist.org>
Subject: 12.2316, Qs: "Netiquette" on Linguist


The following message relates to standards of behavior that seem a
minimal requirement when using a resource like the Linguist List.
I wonder how many people have found the following situation as
frustrating as I have:

Someone posts a query to the List. (It could also be a request
directed to you personally, but for the present discussion let's
assume it's a general query to the List.) You read the query, believe
you may have an answer, and then spend the next half an hour or more
checking your data and then composing a thoughtful response. You
naturally expect that whoever posted the query will get back to you in
the next couple of days with a short note of acknowledgment, one or
two sentences, nothing more. But the acknowledgment note never
arrives. In some cases, perhaps, there will be a summary to the List
in which you are publicly thanked, in which case you feel better. But
in many cases the individual who posted the query never posts a
summary, so your efforts are never acknowledged.

I am sure this has happened to many: I myself have lost track of the
number of times this has happened to me. The question is: why does it
happen? How long can it possibly take to compose a short message
thanking someone for their input? Why is it so hard to make that
effort when it is clear that someone has spent a great deal more
effort in answering the question that was originally posed? Is that
asking too much? If anyone can think of good answers to these
questions, I would love to hear them. (And yes, you will be thanked
for your input, that's guaranteed.)

Why do I care enough about this to post this message, and why is it
relevant to the list? Because I believe that this lack of manners on
the part of some can have a negative effect on the intended function
of the List. I will admit that whenever I see a query that I might
answer, but which I know it will take me some time to answer, I always
think to myself: do I want to spend the time to do this, knowing that
there is a good possibility that I will end up feeling frustrated if
the querier fails to give so much as a minor acknowledgment to my
efforts? In many cases I simply don't bother: it does not seem to be
worth the effort.

It seems to me that this should not be.
------------------------------------------------------------


John F. Schwaller
Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Dean
315 Behmler Hall
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
FAX 320-589-6399
schwallr at mrs.umn.edu


From schwallr at mrs.umn.edu  Thu Sep 27 21:03:30 2001
From: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 16:03:30 -0500
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <THU.27.SEP.2001.160330.0500.SCHWALLR@MRS.UMN.EDU>

>Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:40:29 -0600
>From: "Richley Crapo" <RCRAPO at hass3.hass.usu.edu>
>To: Nahuat-L at mrs.umn.edu
>Subject:  Azteca
>
>Can a date be set to when the Fransiscans first began to refer to the
>Mexica as "Azteca"?
>Richley Crapo

John F. Schwaller
Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Dean
315 Behmler Hall
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
FAX 320-589-6399
schwallr at mrs.umn.edu


From RCRAPO at hass3.hass.usu.edu  Thu Sep 27 21:02:06 2001
From: RCRAPO at hass3.hass.usu.edu (Richley Crapo)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:02:06 -0600
Subject: Azteca
Message-ID: <THU.27.SEP.2001.150206.0600.RCRAPO@HASS3.HASS.USU.EDU>

Can a date be set to when the Fransiscans first began to refer to the Mexica as "Azteca"?
Richley Crapo


From carlossn at ui.boe.es  Fri Sep 28 07:25:30 2001
From: carlossn at ui.boe.es (Carlos Santamarina)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:25:30 +0200
Subject: Azteca
Message-ID: <FRI.28.SEP.2001.092530.0200.CARLOSSN@UI.BOE.ES>



Richley Crapo ha escrito:

> Can a date be set to when the Fransiscans first began to refer to the Mexica as "Azteca"?
> Richley Crapo

Recientemente Miguel León-Portilla ha publicado un artículo en Estudios de Cultura Náhuatl 31
sobre la etimología del término gentilicio "azteca". Su uso no corresponde a los primeros
tiempos de la colonia, sino a finales del siglo XVIII. Está disponible en la red:

"Los Aztecas, disquisiciones sobre un gentilico". León-Portilla, Miguel.

 http://www.ejournal.unam.mx/cultura_nahuatl/ecnahuatl31/ECN31013.pdf

    A seguir bien.
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From aztec at mail.utexas.edu  Sun Sep  2 03:58:29 2001
From: aztec at mail.utexas.edu (Greg Whitworth)
Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2001 22:58:29 -0500
Subject: fullbright proposal in nahuatl studies for graduating seniors
Message-ID: <SAT.1.SEP.2001.225829.0500.AZTEC@MAIL.UTEXAS.EDU>

I will be a graduating senior at the University of Texas at Austin and I am
considering applying for a fullbright fellowship to study nahuatl in Mexico in
2002-2003.  I am seeking some advice as to the feasibility of this possible
project.  In general, the fullbright for graduating seniors and first semester
graduate students emphasizes class work and mentor relationships in the host
country over and above truly independent research.  I would like to ask this
forum if there are any universities with respected programs in studying nahuatl
particularly but especially with the aim of rendering texts during the colonial
period.  I would like to have a few Mexican contacts that I can converse with
in order to construct my proposal and demonstrate that the chosen affiliated
institution can support and encourage such an endeavor.  The training could be
in classical, colonial or modern spoken nahuatl, whatever is most feasible
really.  It could also have a brief fieldwork component (such as studying in
a nahua village) and my coursework could also include courses in ethnohistory or
colonial history.

Anyways, I would appreciate any advice that anyone might have and Mexican (or
other) scholars who might be able to assist me.  My main concern is whether I
should just do my language studies in the US and formulate another topic
related to contemporary anthropolgy or colonial history.

Sincerely,

Greg Whitworth
University of Texas at Austin
History Department


From schwallr at mrs.umn.edu  Wed Sep  5 13:29:31 2001
From: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2001 08:29:31 -0500
Subject: fullbright proposal for graduating seniors in nahuatl studies
Message-ID: <WED.5.SEP.2001.082931.0500.SCHWALLR@MRS.UMN.EDU>

approve: nahuat-l.pass
To: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu, schwallr at selway.umt.edu
Subject: fullbright proposal for graduating seniors in nahuatl studies
Date: Sat, 01 Sep 2001 22:32:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: Greg Whitworth <aztec at mail.utexas.edu>



I will be a graduating senior at the University of Texas at Austin and I am
considering applying for a fullbright fellowship to study nahuatl in Mexico in
2002-2003. I am seeking some advice as to the feasibility of this possible
project. In general, the fullbright for graduating seniors and first semester
graduate students emphasizes class work and mentor relationships in the host
country over and above truly independent research. I would like to ask this
forum if there are any universities with respected programs in studying
nahuatl
particularly but especially with the aim of rendering texts during the
colonial
period. I would like to have a few Mexican contacts that I can converse with
in order to construct my proposal and demonstrate that the chosen affiliated
institution can support and encourage such an endeavor. The training could be
in classical, colonial or modern spoken nahuatl, whatever is most feasible
really. It could also have a brief fieldwork component (such as studying in
Tlahuica or in other locales) and my studies could also include courses in
ethnohistory or colonial history.
Anyways, I would appreciate any advice that anyone might have and Mexican (or
other) scholars who might be able to assist me. My main concern is whether I
should just do my language studies in the US and formulate another topic
related to contemporary anthropolgy or colonial history (which may necessitate
another missive to the listserve for further advice).
Sincerely,
Greg Whitworth
University of Texas at Austin
History Department


From mayala.castro at caramail.com  Thu Sep  6 12:06:41 2001
From: mayala.castro at caramail.com (Mayala CASTRO)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 12:06:41 GMT+1
Subject: mayala
Message-ID: <THU.6.SEP.2001.120641.GMT1.MAYALA.CASTRO@CARAMAIL.COM>

My name is Mayala ; it's a nahuatl word which means the
hand that purrs / carresses. But I don't know how to
represent it like the Aztecas did. If someone knew the
signs to write my name (Azteca's typographie), please tell
it to me. Thank you very much for your help.

Mayala
______________________________________________________
Bo?te aux lettres - Caramail - http://www.caramail.com


From juergen.stowasser at univie.ac.at  Thu Sep  6 20:04:19 2001
From: juergen.stowasser at univie.ac.at (Juergen Stowasser)
Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2001 22:04:19 +0200
Subject: Call for Papers/Convocatoria "Cultural Change in 16th Century
 Mexico"
Message-ID: <THU.6.SEP.2001.220419.0200.JUERGEN.STOWASSER@UNIVIE.AC.AT>

Please circulate widely

*************************************************************

CONFERENCE  "Cultural Change in 16th Century Mexico"
(Goettweig -  June 7- 9, 2002)
http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/conference.htm
http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/simposio.htm

The University of Vienna (Institute for the Study of Religions and
Institute of History) and the Austrian Latin America Institute are
organizing a symposium on cultural change in Mesoamerica after the
Conquista of Central Mexico 1519-1521. Scholars from Mexico, the United
States and Europe will debate the various aspects of the cultural
(social, religious, political,...) change in colonial Mexico.
The conference?s emphasis lies on an interdisciplinary and comparative
perspective and on approaches from different disciplines such as
ethnohistory, cultural studies, semiotics, intercultural philosophy and
comparative religious studies. Cultural change is understood as dynamic
and heterogenous process in which the "aculturated ones" participate in
an active, creative and sometimes also subversive way. A special focus
of the meeting will be the analysis of colonial codices as documents of
cultural change (but papers basing on
other sources are welcome as well). In addition to the presentation of
studies of postconquest Mexico, the conference will also reflect on
models of cultural change in general and ask for a greater understanding
of intercultural encounter situations.

The symposium will be held at the Monastery of Goettweig (founded in
1083) near Vienna. Registration will be open to all interested persons
(Fee: $100/students $50).
The conference will include key note speeches and lectures from invited
speakers and mesas redondas (working seminars) with a limited number of
participants. A workshop on Nahua writing system will be held from June
9 - 12 in Vienna.

Registration: http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/conference/form.htm

CALL FOR PAPERS

The conference aims to discuss the impact of the Conquista in Central
Mexico and to take a critical look at models of cultural and social
transformation. We encourage an interdisciplinary approach and
contributions from different fields: ethnohistory, social and cultural
anthropology, gender studies, linguistics, semiotics, discourse analysis
etc. The symposium is further concerned to direct attention towards
colonial codices as important sources for the analysis of the
postconquest period. We invite papers focusing on

-    Understanding cultural change in its heterogeneity: religious
aspects, early mission, ecological dimensions, the role of epidemics,
economic changes,
gender concepts,...
-    Cultural change and literacy: Mesoamerican and European writing
traditions
-    Colonial codices: case studies
-    Between adaption and resistance: ruptures and continuities of
Mesoamerican traditions in the colonial period
-    Methodic questions of intercultural interpretation
-    Reflections on models  of cultural change, acculturation,
"sincretism",...

SUBMISSION OF PAPERS:
All paper sessions are limited to 10-15 minutes length and 5 minutes for
questions/discussion. Proposals for papers must include the registration
form and an abstract of max. 300 words (to be sent in e-mail body or as
rtf-file to abstracts at correoweb.com).
Deadline for submission is January 31, 2002. Confirmation of acceptance
will be no later than 20th February 2002. Accepted abstracts wil be
posted on http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/conference/abstracts.htm. All
papers given at the conference will be published in an anthology.

Proposals for mesas redondas:
Submitted papers wil be read in mesas redondas focusing on the topics
listed above. We accept also proposals of complete mesas on each topic
within the general theme of the conference.

For further questions please check our website
http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/conference.htm
Espa?ol: http://www.univie.ac.at/meso/simposio.htm


--
Juergen Stowasser
Burggasse 114/2/8
A-1070 Wien - Vien(n)a
Austria
tel: 01/ 524 54 60  v  0676/ 398 66 79
http://www.univie.ac.at/meso


From mdmorris at indiana.edu  Fri Sep  7 16:46:57 2001
From: mdmorris at indiana.edu (Mark David Morris)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 11:46:57 -0500
Subject: Nahuatl On-line sources
Message-ID: <FRI.7.SEP.2001.114657.0500.MDMORRIS@INDIANA.EDU>

Listos,

I've volunteerd to put together a list of Nahuatl on-line resources for
H-LATAM.  I would appreciate any references from members of the list.
Also, if Alec would be kind enough to post again the link to Nahuatl texts
off his page, I would be grateful.

thanks,
Mark Morris



















~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

La muerte tiene permiso a todo

MDM, PhD Candidate
Dept. of History, Indiana Univ.


From Huaxyacac at aol.com  Fri Sep  7 18:00:04 2001
From: Huaxyacac at aol.com (Huaxyacac at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 2001 14:00:04 EDT
Subject: Nahuatl On-line sources
Message-ID: <FRI.7.SEP.2001.140004.EDT.>

In response to Mark's question, http://anthropology.about.com/cs/mesoamerica/
has links to both my general Aztec page and my Mesoamerican texts page, each
of which has a batch of links on it.

While I'm writing, a general question for the rest of you. I'm currently
working on a paper on Colonial language use in the Mezquital, and I'm curious
if anyone knows of any Otomi or Nahuatl documents from the area, particularly
from the eastern portion (i.e., the Teotlalpan). I know of a handful of Otomi
documents from around Xilotepec, and two Nahuatl ones, from Tlahuelilpan and
Ixmiquilpan. But that's it. I have been particularly surprised by the absence
of Nahuatl documents from Tula, where the language was used in parish
registers until 1650 or so. I keep worrying that I'm overlooking something.
Anyone know of others?

Cheers,

Alec Christensen
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From schwallr at mrs.umn.edu  Mon Sep 10 11:47:38 2001
From: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu (John F Schwaller)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:47:38 -0500
Subject: Thank You
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From: john at mrs.umn.edu (John Bowers)
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:00:59 -0500
Subject: List test
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From schwallr at mrs.umn.edu  Tue Sep 11 14:44:36 2001
From: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 09:44:36 -0500
Subject: Nahuatl On-line sources
Message-ID: <TUE.11.SEP.2001.094436.0500.SCHWALLR@MRS.UMN.EDU>

Several years ago I published a cofradia constitution from Tula dating from
the 1570s.  It appeared in the Estudios de Cultura Nahuatl.


At 02:00 PM 9/7/01 -0400, you wrote:
>. I have been particularly surprised by the absence
>of Nahuatl documents from Tula, where the language was used in parish
>registers until 1650 or so.

John F. Schwaller
Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Dean
315 Behmler Hall
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
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From schwallr at mrs.umn.edu  Tue Sep 25 15:51:15 2001
From: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2001 10:51:15 -0500
Subject: Netiquette
Message-ID: <TUE.25.SEP.2001.105115.0500.SCHWALLR@MRS.UMN.EDU>

The following was posted on LINGUIST and forwarded to me.  It seems
relevant to our discussions so here it is:

Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:15:23 -0000
From: LINGUIST List <linguist at linguistlist.org>
Subject: 12.2316, Qs: "Netiquette" on Linguist


The following message relates to standards of behavior that seem a
minimal requirement when using a resource like the Linguist List.
I wonder how many people have found the following situation as
frustrating as I have:

Someone posts a query to the List. (It could also be a request
directed to you personally, but for the present discussion let's
assume it's a general query to the List.) You read the query, believe
you may have an answer, and then spend the next half an hour or more
checking your data and then composing a thoughtful response. You
naturally expect that whoever posted the query will get back to you in
the next couple of days with a short note of acknowledgment, one or
two sentences, nothing more. But the acknowledgment note never
arrives. In some cases, perhaps, there will be a summary to the List
in which you are publicly thanked, in which case you feel better. But
in many cases the individual who posted the query never posts a
summary, so your efforts are never acknowledged.

I am sure this has happened to many: I myself have lost track of the
number of times this has happened to me. The question is: why does it
happen? How long can it possibly take to compose a short message
thanking someone for their input? Why is it so hard to make that
effort when it is clear that someone has spent a great deal more
effort in answering the question that was originally posed? Is that
asking too much? If anyone can think of good answers to these
questions, I would love to hear them. (And yes, you will be thanked
for your input, that's guaranteed.)

Why do I care enough about this to post this message, and why is it
relevant to the list? Because I believe that this lack of manners on
the part of some can have a negative effect on the intended function
of the List. I will admit that whenever I see a query that I might
answer, but which I know it will take me some time to answer, I always
think to myself: do I want to spend the time to do this, knowing that
there is a good possibility that I will end up feeling frustrated if
the querier fails to give so much as a minor acknowledgment to my
efforts? In many cases I simply don't bother: it does not seem to be
worth the effort.

It seems to me that this should not be.
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John F. Schwaller
Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Dean
315 Behmler Hall
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
FAX 320-589-6399
schwallr at mrs.umn.edu


From schwallr at mrs.umn.edu  Thu Sep 27 21:03:30 2001
From: schwallr at mrs.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 16:03:30 -0500
Subject: No subject
Message-ID: <THU.27.SEP.2001.160330.0500.SCHWALLR@MRS.UMN.EDU>

>Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 13:40:29 -0600
>From: "Richley Crapo" <RCRAPO at hass3.hass.usu.edu>
>To: Nahuat-L at mrs.umn.edu
>Subject:  Azteca
>
>Can a date be set to when the Fransiscans first began to refer to the
>Mexica as "Azteca"?
>Richley Crapo

John F. Schwaller
Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Dean
315 Behmler Hall
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
FAX 320-589-6399
schwallr at mrs.umn.edu


From RCRAPO at hass3.hass.usu.edu  Thu Sep 27 21:02:06 2001
From: RCRAPO at hass3.hass.usu.edu (Richley Crapo)
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 15:02:06 -0600
Subject: Azteca
Message-ID: <THU.27.SEP.2001.150206.0600.RCRAPO@HASS3.HASS.USU.EDU>

Can a date be set to when the Fransiscans first began to refer to the Mexica as "Azteca"?
Richley Crapo


From carlossn at ui.boe.es  Fri Sep 28 07:25:30 2001
From: carlossn at ui.boe.es (Carlos Santamarina)
Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 09:25:30 +0200
Subject: Azteca
Message-ID: <FRI.28.SEP.2001.092530.0200.CARLOSSN@UI.BOE.ES>



Richley Crapo ha escrito:

> Can a date be set to when the Fransiscans first began to refer to the Mexica as "Azteca"?
> Richley Crapo

Recientemente Miguel Le?n-Portilla ha publicado un art?culo en Estudios de Cultura N?huatl 31
sobre la etimolog?a del t?rmino gentilicio "azteca". Su uso no corresponde a los primeros
tiempos de la colonia, sino a finales del siglo XVIII. Est? disponible en la red:

"Los Aztecas, disquisiciones sobre un gentilico". Le?n-Portilla, Miguel.

 http://www.ejournal.unam.mx/cultura_nahuatl/ecnahuatl31/ECN31013.pdf

    A seguir bien.
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