From mmccaffe at INDIANA.EDU  Tue Mar  1 14:27:14 2005
From: mmccaffe at INDIANA.EDU (Michael McCafferty)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:27:14 -0500
Subject: Another translation/pronunciation
In-Reply-To: <OF2EBAFB25.B5F3600F-ON88256FB6.0079940A-88256FB6.0079EB57@fmc-na.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.MAR.2005.092714.0500.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Mochipa tinoyollopan


Quoting Irene Padilla <Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM>:

> Can I get some help w/this?
>
> Always on my mind and forever in my heart.
>
> Thanks
> ~Irene


From Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM  Tue Mar  1 15:27:25 2005
From: Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM (Irene Padilla)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:27:25 -0800
Subject: Another translation/pronunciation
In-Reply-To: <1109687234.42247bc20617e@webmail.iu.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.MAR.2005.072725.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Thanks so much Michael!
~Irene






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Mochipa tinoyollopan


Quoting Irene Padilla <Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM>:

> Can I get some help w/this?
>
> Always on my mind and forever in my heart.
>
> Thanks
> ~Irene

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From kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM  Fri Mar  4 19:51:29 2005
From: kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM (Nadia Marin Guadarrama)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 13:51:29 -0600
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <FRI.4.MAR.2005.135129.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hello,

I started to learn Nahuatl with Michel Launey's book Introducción a la Lengua y a la Literatura Náhuatl. The edition is in Spanish and is published by UNAM; however, it has errors. I know there is a Fe de erratas for that edition, but I don't have it.  Could you help me to get that fe de erratas?


Muchas gracias!!

Nadia Marín-Guadarrama



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From mwswanton at YAHOO.COM  Sat Mar  5 16:28:14 2005
From: mwswanton at YAHOO.COM (Michael Swanton)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 08:28:14 -0800
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <SAT.5.MAR.2005.082814.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

As far as I am aware the UNAM never prepared a fe de
erratas for that edition of Launey's 'Introduction'.
On the other hand, Una Canger of the University of
Copenhagen has prepared an extensive one. You may wish
to contact her.

If you read French you may also wish to consult the
original French version, which is still in print at
L'Harmattan in Paris. (I have heard though that the
latest printing mis-spelled his name on the cover as
"Launay"!) I understand that the Spanish edition
introduced errors not appearing in the French
original.  The French edition also has the advantage
of a second volume of analyzed texts.


--- Nadia Marin Guadarrama <kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I started to learn Nahuatl with Michel Launey's book
> Introducci�n a la Lengua y a la Literatura N�huatl.
> The edition is in Spanish and is published by UNAM;
> however, it has errors. I know there is a Fe de
> erratas for that edition, but I don't have it.
> Could you help me to get that fe de erratas?
>
>
> Muchas gracias!!
>
> Nadia Mar�n-Guadarrama
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, Am�rica
> Latina y el resto del Mundo.
> Vis�ta Yahoo! Noticias.
>




__________________________________
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From schwallr at morris.umn.edu  Mon Mar  7 17:06:41 2005
From: schwallr at morris.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:06:41 CST
Subject: Symposium in Seville, July 2006
Message-ID: <MON.7.MAR.2005.110641.CST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

"Translation, Interpretation, and Transculturation: The cultural dialogue
of native language texts written by Europeans and by natives in colonial
Latin America"

The 52nd International Congress of Americanists will be held in Seville
between July 17th and July 26th 2006.  Symposia proposals are still being
accepted until March 30, of 2005 (two weeks away).  Several colleagues have
encouraged me to propose a symposium on issues of translation,
interpretation and transculturation involving texts in native languages,
composed either by native persons or Spaniards.  The thrust of the
symposium will look at the cultural dialogue that these texts represent:
the acquisition by the Spanish of native cultural traits and their
reinterpretation, along with the acquisition of Spanish cultural traits by
native persons and their subsequent reinterpretation.

Persons interested in joining this symposium should send me an abstract of
their paper, approximately a page in length, preferentially before March
25, to allow for time to collate the proposals.


John F. Schwaller
Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Dean
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E. 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
Fax 320-589-6399


From kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM  Tue Mar  8 16:10:03 2005
From: kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM (Nadia Marin Guadarrama)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:10:03 -0600
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <TUE.8.MAR.2005.101003.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Thank you very much for the information and the tips, I will tell everybody if I get the fe de erratas.

Michael Swanton <mwswanton at YAHOO.COM> wrote:As far as I am aware the UNAM never prepared a fe de
erratas for that edition of Launey's 'Introduction'.
On the other hand, Una Canger of the University of
Copenhagen has prepared an extensive one. You may wish
to contact her.

If you read French you may also wish to consult the
original French version, which is still in print at
L'Harmattan in Paris. (I have heard though that the
latest printing mis-spelled his name on the cover as
"Launay"!) I understand that the Spanish edition
introduced errors not appearing in the French
original. The French edition also has the advantage
of a second volume of analyzed texts.


--- Nadia Marin Guadarrama
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I started to learn Nahuatl with Michel Launey's book
> Introducción a la Lengua y a la Literatura Náhuatl.
> The edition is in Spanish and is published by UNAM;
> however, it has errors. I know there is a Fe de
> erratas for that edition, but I don't have it.
> Could you help me to get that fe de erratas?
>
>
> Muchas gracias!!
>
> Nadia Marín-Guadarrama
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, América
> Latina y el resto del Mundo.
> Visíta Yahoo! Noticias.
>




__________________________________
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Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web
http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/




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From gregory_sandor at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Mar  9 17:17:30 2005
From: gregory_sandor at HOTMAIL.COM (Greg Sandor)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:17:30 -0500
Subject: M.A. culture change
Message-ID: <WED.9.MAR.2005.121730.0500.GREGORYSANDOR@HOTMAIL.COM>

Hi all,

Last year I ran across several references to Coca-Cola being used as a sacrament in modern-day Mexico and Central America.  I found these accidentally while researching something else and now that I can look deeper into it I am interested to know if any of you have seen this or heard of it?  

Regards,

Greg

(614) 291-5466
greg at gregsandor.com
www.gregsandor.com
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From idiez at MAC.COM  Thu Mar 10 14:56:51 2005
From: idiez at MAC.COM (idiez at MAC.COM)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:56:51 -0600
Subject: M.A. culture change
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV15AEA36B8153B016FA37E0E6510@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.085651.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Greg,
        Bottled coke and beer are used as offerings in indigenous ceremonies. 
Is this what you are refering to?
John

John Sullivan, Ph.D.
Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
Unidad Académica de Idiomas
Universidad Autónoma de Zacatecas
Director
Instituto de Docencia e Investigación Etnológica de Zacatecas, A.C.
Tacuba 152, int. 47
Centro Histórico
Zacatecas, Zac. 98000
México
Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415
Fax: +52 (492) 925-3416
Domicilio: +52 (492) 768-6048
Celular: +52 (492) 544-5985
idiez at mac.com
www.idiez.org.mx


On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Greg Sandor wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>  
> Last year I ran across several references to Coca-Cola being used as a 
> sacrament in modern-day Mexico and Central America.  I found these 
> accidentally while researching something else and now that I can look 
> deeper into it I am interested to know if any of you have seen this or 
> heard of it? 
>   
> Regards,
>  
> Greg
>  
> (614) 291-5466
> greg at gregsandor.com
> www.gregsandor.com
>

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From afinn23 at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Mar 10 15:21:27 2005
From: afinn23 at HOTMAIL.COM (Alex Finn)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:21:27 +0000
Subject: coca-cola ceremony
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.152127.0000.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

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From gregory_sandor at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Mar 10 18:47:04 2005
From: gregory_sandor at HOTMAIL.COM (Greg Sandor)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:47:04 -0500
Subject: M.A. culture change
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.134704.0500.GREGORYSANDOR@HOTMAIL.COM>

Yes.  

Regards,

Greg

(614) 291-5466
greg at gregsandor.com
www.gregsandor.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: idiez at MAC.COM 
  To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:56 AM
  Subject: Re: M.A. culture change


  Greg,
  Bottled coke and beer are used as offerings in indigenous ceremonies. Is this what you are refering to?
  John

  John Sullivan, Ph.D.
  Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
  Unidad Académica de Idiomas
  Universidad Autónoma de Zacatecas
  Director
  Instituto de Docencia e Investigación Etnológica de Zacatecas, A.C.
  Tacuba 152, int. 47
  Centro Histórico
  Zacatecas, Zac. 98000
  México
  Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415
  Fax: +52 (492) 925-3416
  Domicilio: +52 (492) 768-6048
  Celular: +52 (492) 544-5985
  idiez at mac.com
  www.idiez.org.mx


  On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Greg Sandor wrote:


    Hi all,

     
    Last year I ran across several references to Coca-Cola being used as a sacrament in modern-day Mexico and Central America.  I found these accidentally while researching something else and now that I can look deeper into it I am interested to know if any of you have seen this or heard of it? 
     
    Regards,
     
    Greg
     
    (614) 291-5466
    greg at gregsandor.com
    www.gregsandor.com



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From bobbi at WEBBITTOWN.NET  Thu Mar 10 19:24:28 2005
From: bobbi at WEBBITTOWN.NET (bobbi)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:24:28 -0500
Subject: M.A. culture change
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV36AA2F384673E5C9E21D8E6520@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.142428.0500.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Possibly related to the idea, the Mickey Mouse Kachina Doll:
http://americanart.si.edu/art_info/1001/2000/11/111800.html
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Nahua language and culture discussion
[mailto:NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU]On Behalf Of Greg Sandor
  Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 1:47 PM
  To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
  Subject: Re: M.A. culture change


  Yes.

  Regards,

  Greg

  (614) 291-5466
  greg at gregsandor.com
  www.gregsandor.com
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: idiez at MAC.COM
    To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
    Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:56 AM
    Subject: Re: M.A. culture change


    Greg,
    Bottled coke and beer are used as offerings in indigenous ceremonies. Is
this what you are refering to?
    John

    John Sullivan, Ph.D.
    Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
    Unidad Académica de Idiomas
    Universidad Autónoma de Zacatecas
    Director
    Instituto de Docencia e Investigación Etnológica de Zacatecas, A.C.
    Tacuba 152, int. 47
    Centro Histórico
    Zacatecas, Zac. 98000
    México
    Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415
    Fax: +52 (492) 925-3416
    Domicilio: +52 (492) 768-6048
    Celular: +52 (492) 544-5985
    idiez at mac.com
    www.idiez.org.mx


    On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Greg Sandor wrote:


      Hi all,


      Last year I ran across several references to Coca-Cola being used as a
sacrament in modern-day Mexico and Central America.  I found these
accidentally while researching something else and now that I can look deeper
into it I am interested to know if any of you have seen this or heard of it?

      Regards,

      Greg

      (614) 291-5466
      greg at gregsandor.com
      www.gregsandor.com



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From teddy_30 at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Mar 10 21:30:53 2005
From: teddy_30 at HOTMAIL.COM (Steffen Haurholm-Larsen)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:30:53 +0000
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
In-Reply-To: <20050304195129.44278.qmail@web52406.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.213053.0000.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Nadia

I just noticed your mail on the nahuat-l mailing list today about the
correction list to Introduccion a la lengua y a litteratura n�huatl. As
someone commented Una Canger who is the head of our institute here in
Copenhagen has made such a list and I don't think it would be a problem for
me to get it for you electronically if you are interested.
Best regards

Steffen Haurholm-Larsen, University of Copenhagen, Institute of American
Indian Studies

_________________________________________________________________
Undg� pop-ups med MSN Toolbar -  http://toolbar.msn.dk hent den gratis!


From amoxtli at EARTHLINK.NET  Thu Mar 10 22:25:07 2005
From: amoxtli at EARTHLINK.NET (Walter Koenig)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:25:07 -0800
Subject: A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.142507.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Can anyone advise where I can purchase a copy of the following book?

R. Joe Campbell
" A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl : a morpheme index to
the Vocabulario en lengua mexicana y castellana of Fray Alonso de
Molina"
Madison : Hispanic Seminary of Medieval Studies, c1985
ISBN: 094226052X

Many thanks for any help.

Best Regards,

Walter O. Koenig

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From budelberger.richard at 9ONLINE.FR  Thu Mar 10 14:16:49 2005
From: budelberger.richard at 9ONLINE.FR (Budelberger, Richard)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:16:49 +0100
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.151649.0100.BUDELBERGER.RICHARD@9ONLINE.FR>

20 ventôse an CCXIII (le 10 mars 2005 d. c.-d. c. g.), 15h16:49.

---- Message d'origine ----
De : Michael Swanton <mwswanton at YAHOO.COM>
À : <NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
Envoyé : samedi 5 mars 2005 17:28
Objet : Re: fe de erratas for Launey's book

> --- Nadia Marin Guadarrama <kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I started to learn Nahuatl with Michel Launey's book
>> Introducción a la Lengua y a la Literatura Náhuatl.
>> The edition is in Spanish and is published by UNAM;
>> however, it has errors. I know there is a Fe de erratas
>> for that edition, but I don't have it.
>> Could you help me to get that fe de erratas?
>>
>>
>> Muchas gracias!!
>>
>> Nadia Marín-Guadarrama
>
> As far as I am aware the UNAM never prepared a fe de erratas
> for that edition of Launey's 'Introduction'.
> On the other hand, Una Canger of the University of Copenhagen
> has prepared an extensive one. You may wish to contact her.
>
> If you read French you may also wish to consult the
> original French version, which is still in print at
> L'Harmattan in Paris. (I have heard though that the
> latest printing mis-spelled his name on the cover as
> "Launay"!) I understand that the Spanish edition
> introduced errors not appearing in the French
> original.  The French edition also has the advantage
> of a second volume of analyzed texts.

    Dear Listeros,

    Cf. <news:d0pksc$2h0$1 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>
uel <http://www.google.fr/groups?selm=d0pksc$2h0$1 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>.


    Budelberger, Richard.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM  Fri Mar 11 04:21:07 2005
From: kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM (Nadia Marin Guadarrama)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:21:07 -0600
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.222107.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hello Steffen,

Thank you!!!! I am really interested in having that fe de erratas (and I am sure that I am not the only one). I really appreciate very much your help! :) You have make me very happy!!

Nadia



Steffen Haurholm-Larsen <teddy_30 at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
Hi Nadia

I just noticed your mail on the nahuat-l mailing list today about the
correction list to Introduccion a la lengua y a litteratura náhuatl. As
someone commented Una Canger who is the head of our institute here in
Copenhagen has made such a list and I don't think it would be a problem for
me to get it for you electronically if you are interested.
Best regards

Steffen Haurholm-Larsen, University of Copenhagen, Institute of American
Indian Studies

_________________________________________________________________
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From Huehueteot at AOL.COM  Wed Mar 16 01:23:31 2005
From: Huehueteot at AOL.COM (Huehueteot at AOL.COM)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:23:31 EST
Subject: A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl
Message-ID: <TUE.15.MAR.2005.202331.EST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

On 3/10/05 You wrote:

Can anyone advise where I can purchase a copy of the following  book?

R. Joe Campbell
" A morphological dictionary of classical  Nahuatl : a morpheme index to
the Vocabulario en lengua mexicana y castellana  of Fray Alonso de
Molina"
Madison : Hispanic Seminary of Medieval Studies,  c1985
ISBN: 094226052X

Many thanks for any help.

Best  Regards,

Walter O. Koenig

Walter:

Try Addall.com's used books section.  If that can't find it try a Rare  and
Out of print book search service.

Addall.com

_Http://www.addall.com_ (http://www.addall.com)

Rare and out of print books:

_Http://www.abebooks.com_ (http://www.abebooks.com)
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From amoxtli at EARTHLINK.NET  Wed Mar 16 02:40:18 2005
From: amoxtli at EARTHLINK.NET (Walter Koenig)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:40:18 -0800
Subject: A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl
In-Reply-To: <36.6ea48da9.2f68e493@aol.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.MAR.2005.184018.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Greetings,

Many thanks for your reply. I've already tried to the two web-sites you 
mentioned as well as www.abe.com and several others.
It seems the Dictionary is quite difficult to find. Thanks again.

Best Regards,

Walter O. Koenig



On Mar 15, 2005, at 5:23 PM, Huehueteot at AOL.COM wrote:

>
> On 3/10/05 You wrote:
>  
> Can anyone advise where I can purchase a copy of the following book?
>
> R. Joe Campbell
> " A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl : a morpheme index to
> the Vocabulario en lengua mexicana y castellana of Fray Alonso de
> Molina"
> Madison : Hispanic Seminary of Medieval Studies, c1985
> ISBN: 094226052X
>
> Many thanks for any help.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Walter O. Koenig
>
> Walter:
>  
> Try Addall.com's used books section.  If that can't find it try a Rare 
> and Out of print book search service. 
>   
> Addall.com
>  
> Http://www.addall.com
>  
> Rare and out of print books:
>  
> Http://www.abebooks.com
>
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From ian.robertson at ASU.EDU  Wed Mar 16 04:53:11 2005
From: ian.robertson at ASU.EDU (Ian Robertson)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:53:11 -0800
Subject: A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl
In-Reply-To: <05c5808934d22fa64ec31d98a0831e42@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.MAR.2005.205311.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Walter, contact bookbazaar at cyberus.ca <mailto:bookbazaar at cyberus.ca> in
Canada. I think they might have a copy of Joe Campbell's dictionary.

Best, Ian

Ian Robertson


From Huehueteot at AOL.COM  Wed Mar 16 06:32:28 2005
From: Huehueteot at AOL.COM (Huehueteot at AOL.COM)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:32:28 EST
Subject: A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl
Message-ID: <WED.16.MAR.2005.013228.EST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>


In a message dated 3/15/05 7:41:21 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
amoxtli at EARTHLINK.NET writes:

Greetings,

Many thanks for your reply. I've already tried to the  two web-sites you
mentioned as well as www.abe.com and several  others.
It seems the Dictionary is quite difficult to find. Thanks  again.

Best Regards,

Walter O.  Koenig



Walter:

Did you enter a want for the book?  They will search a large number of  book
sellers all over the world.  I have found very hard to find books  there when
nobody else could find them.

the URL for the Want entry page is:

_http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/WantEntry_
(http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/WantEntry)

Cheers,

Sam
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From dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM  Wed Mar 16 19:32:11 2005
From: dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM (Dustin De Felice)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:32:11 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <WED.16.MAR.2005.113211.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family, colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.  (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
 postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.

Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.

Dustin De Felice





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From swood at DARKWING.UOREGON.EDU  Wed Mar 16 21:40:44 2005
From: swood at DARKWING.UOREGON.EDU (Stephanie Wood)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:40:44 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <WED.16.MAR.2005.134044.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin,

I would be very interested in getting a copy.  My address is S. Wood, 1201 University of Oregon, Eugene, Oregon 97403-1201.  If you include a return address, I will send you back a donation to help cover the costs of the CD and postage.

Can you tell me more about who you are and how you got involved in this project?

Thanks!
Stephanie Wood
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dustin De Felice 
  To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:32 AM
  Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes


  Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family, colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.  (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.  

  Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.

  Dustin De Felice


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From Evidenz1 at AOL.COM  Thu Mar 17 16:17:42 2005
From: Evidenz1 at AOL.COM (Evidenz1 at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:17:42 -0500
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes- Dustin de felice
Message-ID: <THU.17.MAR.2005.111742.0500.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Peter Itzerott
Bornwiesenweg 19
D 36323 Grebenau
Germany

I am very interested in getting a copy. My adress above.
Please include return adress for donation.
Thank You
Peter Itzerott


From lemcia at UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU  Fri Mar 18 04:44:28 2005
From: lemcia at UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU (Monika Jarosz)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:44:28 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <THU.17.MAR.2005.204428.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin,

I am interested in getting a copy of your CD. Please, give me you address so
that I can send a donation to you.

Monika Jarosz
30175 Avenida Tranquila
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275

Thank you

Monika Jarosz
Doctoral Student
Department of Anthropology
University of California Berkeley

>===== Original Message From Nahua language and culture discussion
<NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU> =====
>Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project
with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We
recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family,
colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a
few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were
edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.
(English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a
visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five
times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able
to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the
rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows
how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to
send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
> postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving
suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting
mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.
>
>Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>
>Dustin De Felice
>
>
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!


From zorrah at ATT.NET  Fri Mar 18 05:24:55 2005
From: zorrah at ATT.NET (zorrah at ATT.NET)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:24:55 +0000
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.052455.0000.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

panolti Dustin,
Kenon tonka?  I received the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email just fine.  I'm pleased that I am able to read a lot of the material in the guide.  I think it is helpful to have a background in Classical Nahuatl first...that is if one is a second language learner like me.  I'm impressed with the artwork and related text near the end.  I'm looking forward to the recordings.  I am among a few people who are waiting to receive your mailing address.  I will gladly send a prepaid, self-addressed envelope to you.

I will not be helpful as far as "errors" are concerned.  However, I am enjoying this work and so will many others I know.  Will you be presenting it somewhere?

Citlalin Xochime
Nahuatl Tlahtolkalli
http://nahuatl.info/nahuatl.htm
-------------- Original message from Dustin De Felice <dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM>: --------------


Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family, colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.  (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.

Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.

Dustin De Felice


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From jrabasa at CALMAIL.BERKELEY.EDU  Fri Mar 18 21:22:14 2005
From: jrabasa at CALMAIL.BERKELEY.EDU (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Rabasa)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:22:14 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: <425124CD@bearmail.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.132214.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin,

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:

Jose Rabasa
2733 Prince St.
Berkeley, CA 94705

Also give me the address where you want me to send my donation.

Many thanks,

Jose Rabasa

>
><NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU> =====
>>Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project
>with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We
>recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family,
>colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a
>few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were
>edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.
>(English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a
>visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five
>times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able
>to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the
>rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows
>how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to
>send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
>>  postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving
>suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting
>mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.
>>
>>Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>>
>>Dustin De Felice
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
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>>  Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!


From mexicanoble at YAHOO.COM  Fri Mar 18 21:49:05 2005
From: mexicanoble at YAHOO.COM (Dean Mortera)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:49:05 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.134905.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Dustin,

Please e-mail me your home address so I can provide you your donation. Thank you

 -Dean

Jos� Rabasa <jrabasa at CALMAIL.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:
Hi Dustin,

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:

Jose Rabasa
2733 Prince St.
Berkeley, CA 94705

Also give me the address where you want me to send my donation.

Many thanks,

Jose Rabasa

>
> =====
>>Hi. My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project
>with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico. We
>recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family,
>colors, etc. We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a
>few short paragraphs describing some pictures. All of these recordings were
>edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.
>(English/Spanish/Nahuatl). The final project contains a visual guide, a
>visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five
>times. I would like to share this CD with anyone interested. I would be able
>to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the
>rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail. (Unless someone knows
>how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.) I'm happy to
>send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
>> postage and handling. I'm also extremely interested in receiving
>suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting
>mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.
>>
>>Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>>
>>Dustin De Felice
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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From MBOLIVAR at SAN.RR.COM  Fri Mar 18 22:44:51 2005
From: MBOLIVAR at SAN.RR.COM (Maria Bolivar)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:44:51 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: <p06110406be60f6a101ab@[192.168.123.181]>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.144451.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin:
Please send me a copy of the materials to the following address:
Maria Bolivar
9615 Gold Coast Drive
San Diego, Ca. 92126

I will be happy to send you a donation if you send me an address.
Maria

-----Original Message-----
From: Nahua language and culture discussion
[mailto:NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of José Rabasa
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:22 PM
To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
Subject: Re: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes

Hi Dustin,

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:

Jose Rabasa
2733 Prince St.
Berkeley, CA 94705

Also give me the address where you want me to send my donation.

Many thanks,

Jose Rabasa

>
><NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU> =====
>>Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording
project
>with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero,
Mexico.  We
>recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals,
family,
>colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses
and a
>few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings
were
>edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual
format.
>(English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide,
a
>visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one
or five
>times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would
be able
>to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email,
but the
>rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone
knows
>how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy
to
>send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to
help with
>>  postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving
>suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting
>mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.
>>
>>Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>>
>>Dustin De Felice
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>Do you Yahoo!?
>>  Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!


From Spoole541 at AOL.COM  Sat Mar 19 00:20:28 2005
From: Spoole541 at AOL.COM (Stafford Poole)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:20:28 EST
Subject: Symposium in Seville, July 2006
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.192028.EST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Dear Fritz:

Are you still looking for papers for the Americanists meeting in Seville?

Stafford


From DCuevas at AOL.COM  Sat Mar 19 01:59:31 2005
From: DCuevas at AOL.COM (DCuevas at AOL.COM)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:59:31 EST
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.205931.EST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin,

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:

Danzas De Aztlan
Dimas Cuevas Jr.
2765 W Maple Street
Rialto, CA 92376

Also give me the address where you want me to send my donation.

Many thanks,

Dimas Cuevas Jr
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From Xhicana at AOL.COM  Sat Mar 19 16:46:48 2005
From: Xhicana at AOL.COM (Xhicana at AOL.COM)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:46:48 EST
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <SAT.19.MAR.2005.114648.EST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Dustin:

I am very interested in obtaining a copy of your CD.  Please send me your
address so that I can mail you payment for it.  My mailing address is:

MarlaJean Moreno
3295 West Avondale #17
Denver, CO  80204


Thanks!
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From rayparker at COMCAST.NET  Sat Mar 19 17:45:20 2005
From: rayparker at COMCAST.NET (Ray Parker)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:45:20 -0700
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <SAT.19.MAR.2005.104520.0700.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin;

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:
Ray Parker
11650 Lincoln St
Denver, CO 80233

Also give me the address where you want me to send a donation.

Many thanks,

Ray Parker


From dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM  Sun Mar 20 02:17:57 2005
From: dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM (Dustin De Felice)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:17:57 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <SAT.19.MAR.2005.181757.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

kuali.  yawili mano,

I'm glad you liked it.  The artwork is one of my favorite parts.  My informant is a man by the name of Marcial Camilo Ayala, who is a famous artist in the amante tradition.  You can google his name to see more of his work.  He is an impressive painter.  I've visited with him many times in his home and seen more of his collection.  You can reach me at:

Dustin De Felice
2228 N. Nagle Ave.
Chicago, IL 60707-3416

I haven't made any definite plans, but I am looking into presenting it at Northeastern Illinois University (where I am student) in a month of so.

Thanks for taking a lot at it and once I get your SASE, I'll gladly send you the entire CD.

Sincerely,

Dustin

zorrah at ATT.NET wrote:


panolti Dustin,

Kenon tonka?  I received the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email just fine.  I'm pleased that I am able to read a lot of the material in the guide.  I think it is helpful to have a background in Classical Nahuatl first...that is if one is a second language learner like me.  I'm impressed with the artwork and related text near the end.  I'm looking forward to the recordings.  I am among a few people who are waiting to receive your mailing address.  I will gladly send a prepaid, self-addressed envelope to you.

I will not be helpful as far as "errors" are concerned.  However, I am enjoying this work and so will many others I know.  Will you be presenting it somewhere?

Citlalin Xochime
Nahuatl Tlahtolkalli
http://nahuatl.info/nahuatl.htm
-------------- Original message from Dustin De Felice <dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM>: --------------

Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family, colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.  (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
 postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.

Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.

Dustin De Felice





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From Ian.Mursell at BTINTERNET.COM  Sun Mar 20 17:14:40 2005
From: Ian.Mursell at BTINTERNET.COM (Ian Mursell)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:14:40 +0000
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: <20050316193211.76674.qmail@web52405.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.20.MAR.2005.171440.0000.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

> Hi Dustin.
> 
> If I¹m not too late, I¹d be very interested in receiving a copy of your
> project, by email (what can be sent) and/or by CD by post, and of course I¹d
> be delighted to send you some money to  cover the costs involved.  My address
> is below.  Please supply full details for posting back to you.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Ian
> 
Ian Mursell
Director
Mexicolore
28 Warriner Gardens
London SW11 4EB, U.K.
Tel: +44 (0) 20 7622 9577
Fax: +44 (0) 20 7498 3643
www.mexicolore.co.uk
Ian.Mursell at btinternet.com
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museums throughout England.  Team visits, online teaching resources and
services, live interactive videoconferencing sessions, and much more - all
from Mexicolore, the 'highly successful teaching team' (British Museum
Education Service)


> 
> Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project
> with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We
> recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family,
> colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a
> few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were
> edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.
> (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a
> visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five
> times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able
> to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the
> rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows
> how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to
> send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
> postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions
> on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might
> be found throughout the CD.
>  
> Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>  
> Dustin De Felice
>  
> 
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From schwallr at morris.umn.edu  Mon Mar 21 14:04:03 2005
From: schwallr at morris.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:04:03 -0600
Subject: Symposium in Seville, July 2006
In-Reply-To: <1a0.2fd32a38.2f6cca4c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.MAR.2005.080403.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

At 06:20 PM 3/18/2005, you wrote:
>Are you still looking for papers for the Americanists meeting in Seville?


Yes indeed.  We have broadened the topic to translations in general.

Fritz




John F. Schwaller
Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Dean
315 Behmler Hall
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
FAX 320-589-6399
schwallr at morris.umn.edu


From Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM  Mon Mar 21 14:49:11 2005
From: Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM (Irene Padilla)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:49:11 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: <001c01c52c0c$19518610$eacf4a42@Main>
Message-ID: <MON.21.MAR.2005.064911.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin:
Please send me a copy of the materials to the following address:
Irene Padilla
563 N 10th St
San Jose, Ca  95112


I will be happy to send you a donation if you send me an address.
~Irene 





Maria Bolivar <MBOLIVAR at SAN.RR.COM>
Sent by: Nahua language and culture discussion <NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
03/18/05 02:44 PM
Please respond to Nahua language and culture discussion
 
        To:     NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
        cc: 
        Subject:        Re: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes


Hi Dustin:
Please send me a copy of the materials to the following address:
Maria Bolivar
9615 Gold Coast Drive
San Diego, Ca. 92126

I will be happy to send you a donation if you send me an address.
Maria

-----Original Message-----
From: Nahua language and culture discussion
[mailto:NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of José Rabasa
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:22 PM
To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
Subject: Re: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes

Hi Dustin,

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:

Jose Rabasa
2733 Prince St.
Berkeley, CA 94705

Also give me the address where you want me to send my donation.

Many thanks,

Jose Rabasa

>
><NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU> =====
>>Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording
project
>with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero,
Mexico.  We
>recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals,
family,
>colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses
and a
>few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings
were
>edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual
format.
>(English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide,
a
>visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one
or five
>times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would
be able
>to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email,
but the
>rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone
knows
>how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy
to
>send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to
help with
>>  postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving
>suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting
>mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.
>>
>>Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>>
>>Dustin De Felice
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>Do you Yahoo!?
>>  Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

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From schwallr at morris.umn.edu  Mon Mar 21 15:02:32 2005
From: schwallr at morris.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:02:32 -0600
Subject: Etiquette of reply
Message-ID: <MON.21.MAR.2005.090232.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Dear list members,

I am sure that Dustin is pleased that the warm reception of his offer of
CDs.  Nevertheless, I would request that when you reply back to him you do
it off line, that is look to see that the address in the To: field is his
address and not that of the discussion list.  It will save all of us from
reading your address, and consequently having that information sent to all
subscribers, and to the various services that collect these messages for
posterity.

J. F. Schwaller
List Owner



John F. Schwaller
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315 Behmler Hall
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
FAX 320-589-6399
schwallr at morris.umn.edu


From jalvar at CANTV.NET  Mon Mar 21 20:33:25 2005
From: jalvar at CANTV.NET (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_=C1lvarez?=)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:33:25 -0400
Subject: Maestros de Milpa Alta
Message-ID: <MON.21.MAR.2005.163325.0400.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hola:
 
Soy un lingüista venezolano que trabaja desde hace 20 años sobre lenguas
indígenas de mi país (algunas de ellas con una complejidad morfológica que
da gusto). Hace unos tres meses tiempo fui a Hermosillo a un congreso de
lingüística y, de paso por Ciudad de México, por curiosidad compré varias
libros sobre náhuatl clásico. Al llegar a Venezuela comencé a estudiarlos y
me quedé fascinado con la lengua. Así que ordené más libros por Amazon y
Barnes & Noble, y también me subscribí a la lista. Voy a volver a México en
abril por sólo 5 días, pero quisiera pasar al menos 3 de esos días con
hablantes de náhuatl de Milpa Alta y alrededores (confieso que bajo el
influjo de Horcasitas) para aclarar unas dudas. De hecho, uno de los libros
que compré es un curso con cassettes de náhuatl hablado, por José Concepción
Flores Arce (llamado también "el Maestro Xochimec"). Yo asumo que el curso
es de náhuatl de Milpa Alta, ya que él es oriundo de allá. Ahora bien, mis
preguntas para la lista son:
 
1. ¿Está vivo y bien el Maestro Xochime'? ¿Cómo podré localizarlo?
2. ¿Habla Librado Silva Galeana (traductor de Huehuehtlahtolli) ese mismo
dialecto? Si es así, ¿está vivo y bien?
3. ¿Conocen los miembros de la lista algún maestro de Milpa Alta y
alrededores que hable náhuatl, que me atienda por 3 días por un pago
razonable?
5. ¿Podría alguien hacerme la misericordia de conseguirme una fotocopia del
trabajo de Whorf 1946[1939] "The Milpa Alta dialect of Aztec with notes on
the Classical and the Tepotztlán Dialects"? No hay modo en que pueda
obtenerlo en Venezuela y mi estancia en México será muy breve para
procurarlo. Son 30 páginas. Abajo está mi dirección, por si acaso.
 
Muy agradecido,
 
 
José Álvarez
Departamento de Ciencias Humanas
Universidad del Zulia
Maracaibo, Venezuela
 
 
Dirección:
Calle 83 # 9-38
Edificio Táchira
Apartamento 1-B
Maracaibo 4001
Venezuela
 
 
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From MBOLIVAR at SAN.RR.COM  Mon Mar 21 21:32:18 2005
From: MBOLIVAR at SAN.RR.COM (Maria Bolivar)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:32:18 -0800
Subject: Maestros de Milpa Alta
In-Reply-To: <000001c52e55$41c2caf0$d31df8c9@Pipo>
Message-ID: <MON.21.MAR.2005.133218.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

José y colisteros:
Yo trabajé hace mil años en Milpa Alta (bueno, no tantos, pero con el
cambio a gobierno, Milpa Alta cambió mucho, para bien). En la delegación
política, hoy gobierno del Distrito Federal. Ahí en la delegación
llevábamos un registro de nahuatl hablantes. Era minuncioso y además se
llevaba muy buena relación con los profesores de la región. Yo trabajé
específicamente en registrar nombres, direcciones y datos de los
hablantes de náhuatl y en actualizar el padrón. También trabajé en un
padrón de artesanos y de productores de mole. Mi mayor logro fue el
registro del número de telares de cintura que todavía existían en la
zona. Algunos viejecitos de Milpa Alta pasaban de los cien años. Era una
zona conocida por la longevidad de sus habitantes. Era fascinante la
zona. Nunca he tenido un trabajo más intenso ni más apasionante que ese.
Yo era directora de acción social. No sé si ese cargo todavía exista con
el nuevo régimen jurídico. Nosotros teníamos que desplazarnos por los 12
pueblos que conforman la delegación diariamente. Formamos huertos,
vacunamos aves, hablamos con los nopaleros. Ahí comí los mejores
nopalitos y me deleité con las mil maneras de prepararlos, también
conocí todo lo que sé acerca del mole y de las distintas maneras en que
este se prepara. Ahí, en Milpa Alta, no en todos los entonces llamados
“pueblos” se hablaba el náhuatl, pero en los lugares donde se hablaba
los hablantes bilingües eran mayoría. En día de muertos conseguí una
participación monumental para integrar a las celebraciones ancestrales a
la delegación política. Montamos una ofrenda en el quiosco de la
cabecera, Milpa Alta, que muchísima gente acudió a admirar. Mi paso por
Milpa Alta me llevó a apreciar ese tiempo de muertos en que el campo se
viste de cempazúchitl. Es tan bonito como se pone todo amarillo y con
ese olor a flor que es fuerte y que no se puede pasar de largo. También
conocí ahí las auténticas alegrías y el pan de huesito. Tuve el
privilegio de conocer Milpa Alta cuando todavía no estaba integrada al
resto del DF. Llegabas por la carretera vieja a Cuernavaca. Sus
vallecitos y sus casas e iglesias antiguas la hacían super especial. 
 
El tiempo es cruel. Los pueblos de Milpa Alta son San Bartolomé, Yo te
sugiero que entres en contacto con la delegación y a ellos les consultes
como encontrar al maestro Xochimec. Estoy segura que te será
relativamente fácil dar con él o con cualquier otro maestro de la zona.
Para todos les digo que los nombres de los pueblos son todos en Náhuatl,
con su equivalente en español. Milpa Alta es la zona que con mayor
fidelidad guarda la memoria indígena en el Distrito Federal.
También fue un bastión del zapatismo. Ahí hay muchísimos sitios donde
puedes escarbar y hallar armas zapatistas, carabinas. Entre la gente
milpaltense hay magníficos narradores. Es un lugar excepcional que pocos
visitan. Espero de corazón que lo hagas y sabrás que hay otra dimensión
y profundidad en esa ciudad cuya historia es vertical, como un
palimpsesto.
 
Los nombres en Náhuatl de los pueblos de Milpa Alta o Malacahtepec
 
Atocpan (San Pedro), Cuauhtenco (San Salvador), Malacahtepec (Villa
Milpa Alta), Miacatlán (San Jerónimo), Ohtenco (San Agustín), Oztotepec
(San Pablo), Tecomitl (San Antonio), Tecoxpa (San Francisco), Tepenahuac
(San Juan), Tlacotenco (Santa Ana), Tlacoyucan (San Lorenzo), Xicomulco
(San Bartolomé).
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Nahua language and culture discussion
[mailto:NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of José Álvarez
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:33 PM
To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
Subject: Maestros de Milpa Alta
 
Hola:
 
Soy un lingüista venezolano que trabaja desde hace 20 años sobre lenguas
indígenas de mi país (algunas de ellas con una complejidad morfológica
que da gusto). Hace unos tres meses tiempo fui a Hermosillo a un
congreso de lingüística y, de paso por Ciudad de México, por curiosidad
compré varias libros sobre náhuatl clásico. Al llegar a Venezuela
comencé a estudiarlos y me quedé fascinado con la lengua. Así que ordené
más libros por Amazon y Barnes & Noble, y también me subscribí a la
lista. Voy a volver a México en abril por sólo 5 días, pero quisiera
pasar al menos 3 de esos días con hablantes de náhuatl de Milpa Alta y
alrededores (confieso que bajo el influjo de Horcasitas) para aclarar
unas dudas. De hecho, uno de los libros que compré es un curso con
cassettes de náhuatl hablado, por José Concepción Flores Arce (llamado
también "el Maestro Xochimec"). Yo asumo que el curso es de náhuatl de
Milpa Alta, ya que él es oriundo de allá. Ahora bien, mis preguntas para
la lista son:
 
1. ¿Está vivo y bien el Maestro Xochime'? ¿Cómo podré localizarlo?
2. ¿Habla Librado Silva Galeana (traductor de Huehuehtlahtolli) ese
mismo dialecto? Si es así, ¿está vivo y bien?
3. ¿Conocen los miembros de la lista algún maestro de Milpa Alta y
alrededores que hable náhuatl, que me atienda por 3 días por un pago
razonable?
5. ¿Podría alguien hacerme la misericordia de conseguirme una fotocopia
del trabajo de Whorf 1946[1939] "The Milpa Alta dialect of Aztec with
notes on the Classical and the Tepotztlán Dialects"? No hay modo en que
pueda obtenerlo en Venezuela y mi estancia en México será muy breve para
procurarlo. Son 30 páginas. Abajo está mi dirección, por si acaso.
 
Muy agradecido,
 
 
José Álvarez
Departamento de Ciencias Humanas
Universidad del Zulia
Maracaibo, Venezuela
 
 
Dirección:
Calle 83 # 9-38
Edificio Táchira
Apartamento 1-B
Maracaibo 4001
Venezuela
 
 
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From macuil2 at MSN.COM  Wed Mar 23 04:20:32 2005
From: macuil2 at MSN.COM (Raul macuil martinez)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:20:32 +0100
Subject: Maestros de Milpa Alta
In-Reply-To: <003801c52e5d$760f0820$eacf4a42@Main>
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From arnibionic at YAHOO.DE  Wed Mar 23 13:11:38 2005
From: arnibionic at YAHOO.DE (=?iso-8859-1?q?Arnd=20S=F6lling?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:11:38 +0100
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <WED.23.MAR.2005.141138.0100.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>



Dustin De Felice <dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM> wrote:Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family, colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.  (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to send this CD by mail and would
 accept donations of a dollar or so to help with postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.

Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.

Dustin De Felice






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Hello Dustin,

I am very interested in your nahua cd.

My adress is:

Arnd Sölling, c/o Fr. Hauer, Lilienstr.51, 81669 München, Germany

Please include a adress so i can give a donation

miec tlazocamantli!



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From budelberger.richard at 9ONLINE.FR  Tue Mar 29 22:00:00 2005
From: budelberger.richard at 9ONLINE.FR (Budelberger, Richard)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:00 +0200
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
Message-ID: <WED.30.MAR.2005.000000.0200.BUDELBERGER.RICHARD@9ONLINE.FR>

10 germinal an CCXIII (le 30 mars 2005 d. c.-d. c. g.), 00h00.

---- Message d'origine ----
De : Michael Swanton <mwswanton at YAHOO.COM>
À : <NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
Envoyé : samedi 5 mars 2005 17:28
Objet : Re: fe de erratas for Launey's book

    Dear Listeros,

> --- Nadia Marin Guadarrama <kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I started to learn Nahuatl with Michel Launey's book
>> Introducción a la Lengua y a la Literatura Náhuatl.
>> The edition is in Spanish and is published by UNAM;
>> however, it has errors. I know there is a Fe de erratas
>> for that edition, but I don't have it.
>> Could you help me to get that fe de erratas?
>>
>>
>> Muchas gracias!!
>>
>> Nadia Marín-Guadarrama
>
> As far as I am aware the UNAM never prepared a fe de erratas
> for that edition of Launey's 'Introduction'.
> On the other hand, Una Canger of the University of Copenhagen
> has prepared an extensive one. You may wish to contact her.
>
> If you read French you may also wish to consult the
> original French version, which is still in print at
> L'Harmattan in Paris. (I have heard though that the
> latest printing mis-spelled his name on the cover as
> "Launay"!) I understand that the Spanish edition
> introduced errors not appearing in the French original.

    Cf. <news:d0pksc$2h0$1 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>,
        <news:d2clkt$9ps$12 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>,
        <news:d2clkv$9ps$13 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>
uel <http://www.google.fr/groups?threadm=d2clkt$9ps$12 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>.

> The French edition also has the advantage
> of a second volume of analyzed texts.

    Cf. <news:d2clkl$9ps$11 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.ne>
uel <http://www.google.fr/groups?selm=d2clkl$9ps$11 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.ne>.


    Budelberger, Richard.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From mmccaffe at INDIANA.EDU  Tue Mar  1 14:27:14 2005
From: mmccaffe at INDIANA.EDU (Michael McCafferty)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 09:27:14 -0500
Subject: Another translation/pronunciation
In-Reply-To: <OF2EBAFB25.B5F3600F-ON88256FB6.0079940A-88256FB6.0079EB57@fmc-na.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.MAR.2005.092714.0500.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Mochipa tinoyollopan


Quoting Irene Padilla <Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM>:

> Can I get some help w/this?
>
> Always on my mind and forever in my heart.
>
> Thanks
> ~Irene


From Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM  Tue Mar  1 15:27:25 2005
From: Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM (Irene Padilla)
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2005 07:27:25 -0800
Subject: Another translation/pronunciation
In-Reply-To: <1109687234.42247bc20617e@webmail.iu.edu>
Message-ID: <TUE.1.MAR.2005.072725.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Thanks so much Michael!
~Irene






mmccaffe at INDIANA.EDU
Sent by: Nahua language and culture discussion <NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
03/01/05 06:27 AM
Please respond to Nahua language and culture discussion

        To:     NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
        cc:
        Subject:        Re: Another translation/pronunciation


Mochipa tinoyollopan


Quoting Irene Padilla <Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM>:

> Can I get some help w/this?
>
> Always on my mind and forever in my heart.
>
> Thanks
> ~Irene

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From kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM  Fri Mar  4 19:51:29 2005
From: kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM (Nadia Marin Guadarrama)
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 13:51:29 -0600
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <FRI.4.MAR.2005.135129.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hello,

I started to learn Nahuatl with Michel Launey's book Introducci?n a la Lengua y a la Literatura N?huatl. The edition is in Spanish and is published by UNAM; however, it has errors. I know there is a Fe de erratas for that edition, but I don't have it.  Could you help me to get that fe de erratas?


Muchas gracias!!

Nadia Mar?n-Guadarrama



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From mwswanton at YAHOO.COM  Sat Mar  5 16:28:14 2005
From: mwswanton at YAHOO.COM (Michael Swanton)
Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 08:28:14 -0800
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <SAT.5.MAR.2005.082814.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

As far as I am aware the UNAM never prepared a fe de
erratas for that edition of Launey's 'Introduction'.
On the other hand, Una Canger of the University of
Copenhagen has prepared an extensive one. You may wish
to contact her.

If you read French you may also wish to consult the
original French version, which is still in print at
L'Harmattan in Paris. (I have heard though that the
latest printing mis-spelled his name on the cover as
"Launay"!) I understand that the Spanish edition
introduced errors not appearing in the French
original.  The French edition also has the advantage
of a second volume of analyzed texts.


--- Nadia Marin Guadarrama <kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I started to learn Nahuatl with Michel Launey's book
> Introducci?n a la Lengua y a la Literatura N?huatl.
> The edition is in Spanish and is published by UNAM;
> however, it has errors. I know there is a Fe de
> erratas for that edition, but I don't have it.
> Could you help me to get that fe de erratas?
>
>
> Muchas gracias!!
>
> Nadia Mar?n-Guadarrama
>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Todo lo que quieres saber de Estados Unidos, Am?rica
> Latina y el resto del Mundo.
> Vis?ta Yahoo! Noticias.
>




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From schwallr at morris.umn.edu  Mon Mar  7 17:06:41 2005
From: schwallr at morris.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2005 11:06:41 CST
Subject: Symposium in Seville, July 2006
Message-ID: <MON.7.MAR.2005.110641.CST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

"Translation, Interpretation, and Transculturation: The cultural dialogue
of native language texts written by Europeans and by natives in colonial
Latin America"

The 52nd International Congress of Americanists will be held in Seville
between July 17th and July 26th 2006.  Symposia proposals are still being
accepted until March 30, of 2005 (two weeks away).  Several colleagues have
encouraged me to propose a symposium on issues of translation,
interpretation and transculturation involving texts in native languages,
composed either by native persons or Spaniards.  The thrust of the
symposium will look at the cultural dialogue that these texts represent:
the acquisition by the Spanish of native cultural traits and their
reinterpretation, along with the acquisition of Spanish cultural traits by
native persons and their subsequent reinterpretation.

Persons interested in joining this symposium should send me an abstract of
their paper, approximately a page in length, preferentially before March
25, to allow for time to collate the proposals.


John F. Schwaller
Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Dean
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E. 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
Fax 320-589-6399


From kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM  Tue Mar  8 16:10:03 2005
From: kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM (Nadia Marin Guadarrama)
Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 10:10:03 -0600
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <TUE.8.MAR.2005.101003.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Thank you very much for the information and the tips, I will tell everybody if I get the fe de erratas.

Michael Swanton <mwswanton at YAHOO.COM> wrote:As far as I am aware the UNAM never prepared a fe de
erratas for that edition of Launey's 'Introduction'.
On the other hand, Una Canger of the University of
Copenhagen has prepared an extensive one. You may wish
to contact her.

If you read French you may also wish to consult the
original French version, which is still in print at
L'Harmattan in Paris. (I have heard though that the
latest printing mis-spelled his name on the cover as
"Launay"!) I understand that the Spanish edition
introduced errors not appearing in the French
original. The French edition also has the advantage
of a second volume of analyzed texts.


--- Nadia Marin Guadarrama
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I started to learn Nahuatl with Michel Launey's book
> Introducci?n a la Lengua y a la Literatura N?huatl.
> The edition is in Spanish and is published by UNAM;
> however, it has errors. I know there is a Fe de
> erratas for that edition, but I don't have it.
> Could you help me to get that fe de erratas?
>
>
> Muchas gracias!!
>
> Nadia Mar?n-Guadarrama
>
>
>
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From gregory_sandor at HOTMAIL.COM  Wed Mar  9 17:17:30 2005
From: gregory_sandor at HOTMAIL.COM (Greg Sandor)
Date: Wed, 9 Mar 2005 12:17:30 -0500
Subject: M.A. culture change
Message-ID: <WED.9.MAR.2005.121730.0500.GREGORYSANDOR@HOTMAIL.COM>

Hi all,

Last year I ran across several references to Coca-Cola being used as a sacrament in modern-day Mexico and Central America.  I found these accidentally while researching something else and now that I can look deeper into it I am interested to know if any of you have seen this or heard of it?  

Regards,

Greg

(614) 291-5466
greg at gregsandor.com
www.gregsandor.com
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From idiez at MAC.COM  Thu Mar 10 14:56:51 2005
From: idiez at MAC.COM (idiez at MAC.COM)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 08:56:51 -0600
Subject: M.A. culture change
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV15AEA36B8153B016FA37E0E6510@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.085651.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Greg,
        Bottled coke and beer are used as offerings in indigenous ceremonies. 
Is this what you are refering to?
John

John Sullivan, Ph.D.
Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
Unidad Acad?mica de Idiomas
Universidad Aut?noma de Zacatecas
Director
Instituto de Docencia e Investigaci?n Etnol?gica de Zacatecas, A.C.
Tacuba 152, int. 47
Centro Hist?rico
Zacatecas, Zac. 98000
M?xico
Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415
Fax: +52 (492) 925-3416
Domicilio: +52 (492) 768-6048
Celular: +52 (492) 544-5985
idiez at mac.com
www.idiez.org.mx


On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Greg Sandor wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> ?
> Last year I ran across several references to Coca-Cola being used as a 
> sacrament?in modern-day Mexico and Central America.? I found these 
> accidentally while researching something else and now that I can?look 
> deeper?into it I am interested to know if any of you have?seen this or 
> heard of it??
>  ?
> Regards,
> ?
> Greg
> ?
> (614) 291-5466
> greg at gregsandor.com
> www.gregsandor.com
>

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From afinn23 at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Mar 10 15:21:27 2005
From: afinn23 at HOTMAIL.COM (Alex Finn)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:21:27 +0000
Subject: coca-cola ceremony
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.152127.0000.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

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From gregory_sandor at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Mar 10 18:47:04 2005
From: gregory_sandor at HOTMAIL.COM (Greg Sandor)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:47:04 -0500
Subject: M.A. culture change
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.134704.0500.GREGORYSANDOR@HOTMAIL.COM>

Yes.  

Regards,

Greg

(614) 291-5466
greg at gregsandor.com
www.gregsandor.com
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: idiez at MAC.COM 
  To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU 
  Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:56 AM
  Subject: Re: M.A. culture change


  Greg,
  Bottled coke and beer are used as offerings in indigenous ceremonies. Is this what you are refering to?
  John

  John Sullivan, Ph.D.
  Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
  Unidad Acad?mica de Idiomas
  Universidad Aut?noma de Zacatecas
  Director
  Instituto de Docencia e Investigaci?n Etnol?gica de Zacatecas, A.C.
  Tacuba 152, int. 47
  Centro Hist?rico
  Zacatecas, Zac. 98000
  M?xico
  Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415
  Fax: +52 (492) 925-3416
  Domicilio: +52 (492) 768-6048
  Celular: +52 (492) 544-5985
  idiez at mac.com
  www.idiez.org.mx


  On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Greg Sandor wrote:


    Hi all,

     
    Last year I ran across several references to Coca-Cola being used as a sacrament in modern-day Mexico and Central America.  I found these accidentally while researching something else and now that I can look deeper into it I am interested to know if any of you have seen this or heard of it? 
     
    Regards,
     
    Greg
     
    (614) 291-5466
    greg at gregsandor.com
    www.gregsandor.com



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From bobbi at WEBBITTOWN.NET  Thu Mar 10 19:24:28 2005
From: bobbi at WEBBITTOWN.NET (bobbi)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:24:28 -0500
Subject: M.A. culture change
In-Reply-To: <BAY103-DAV36AA2F384673E5C9E21D8E6520@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.142428.0500.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Possibly related to the idea, the Mickey Mouse Kachina Doll:
http://americanart.si.edu/art_info/1001/2000/11/111800.html
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Nahua language and culture discussion
[mailto:NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU]On Behalf Of Greg Sandor
  Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 1:47 PM
  To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
  Subject: Re: M.A. culture change


  Yes.

  Regards,

  Greg

  (614) 291-5466
  greg at gregsandor.com
  www.gregsandor.com
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: idiez at MAC.COM
    To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
    Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:56 AM
    Subject: Re: M.A. culture change


    Greg,
    Bottled coke and beer are used as offerings in indigenous ceremonies. Is
this what you are refering to?
    John

    John Sullivan, Ph.D.
    Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
    Unidad Acad?mica de Idiomas
    Universidad Aut?noma de Zacatecas
    Director
    Instituto de Docencia e Investigaci?n Etnol?gica de Zacatecas, A.C.
    Tacuba 152, int. 47
    Centro Hist?rico
    Zacatecas, Zac. 98000
    M?xico
    Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415
    Fax: +52 (492) 925-3416
    Domicilio: +52 (492) 768-6048
    Celular: +52 (492) 544-5985
    idiez at mac.com
    www.idiez.org.mx


    On Mar 9, 2005, at 11:17 AM, Greg Sandor wrote:


      Hi all,


      Last year I ran across several references to Coca-Cola being used as a
sacrament in modern-day Mexico and Central America.  I found these
accidentally while researching something else and now that I can look deeper
into it I am interested to know if any of you have seen this or heard of it?

      Regards,

      Greg

      (614) 291-5466
      greg at gregsandor.com
      www.gregsandor.com



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From teddy_30 at HOTMAIL.COM  Thu Mar 10 21:30:53 2005
From: teddy_30 at HOTMAIL.COM (Steffen Haurholm-Larsen)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 21:30:53 +0000
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
In-Reply-To: <20050304195129.44278.qmail@web52406.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.213053.0000.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Nadia

I just noticed your mail on the nahuat-l mailing list today about the
correction list to Introduccion a la lengua y a litteratura n?huatl. As
someone commented Una Canger who is the head of our institute here in
Copenhagen has made such a list and I don't think it would be a problem for
me to get it for you electronically if you are interested.
Best regards

Steffen Haurholm-Larsen, University of Copenhagen, Institute of American
Indian Studies

_________________________________________________________________
Undg? pop-ups med MSN Toolbar -  http://toolbar.msn.dk hent den gratis!


From amoxtli at EARTHLINK.NET  Thu Mar 10 22:25:07 2005
From: amoxtli at EARTHLINK.NET (Walter Koenig)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:25:07 -0800
Subject: A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.142507.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Can anyone advise where I can purchase a copy of the following book?

R. Joe Campbell
" A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl : a morpheme index to
the Vocabulario en lengua mexicana y castellana of Fray Alonso de
Molina"
Madison : Hispanic Seminary of Medieval Studies, c1985
ISBN: 094226052X

Many thanks for any help.

Best Regards,

Walter O. Koenig

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From budelberger.richard at 9ONLINE.FR  Thu Mar 10 14:16:49 2005
From: budelberger.richard at 9ONLINE.FR (Budelberger, Richard)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:16:49 +0100
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.151649.0100.BUDELBERGER.RICHARD@9ONLINE.FR>

20 vent?se an CCXIII (le 10 mars 2005 d. c.-d. c. g.), 15h16:49.

---- Message d'origine ----
De : Michael Swanton <mwswanton at YAHOO.COM>
? : <NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
Envoy? : samedi 5 mars 2005 17:28
Objet : Re: fe de erratas for Launey's book

> --- Nadia Marin Guadarrama <kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I started to learn Nahuatl with Michel Launey's book
>> Introducci?n a la Lengua y a la Literatura N?huatl.
>> The edition is in Spanish and is published by UNAM;
>> however, it has errors. I know there is a Fe de erratas
>> for that edition, but I don't have it.
>> Could you help me to get that fe de erratas?
>>
>>
>> Muchas gracias!!
>>
>> Nadia Mar?n-Guadarrama
>
> As far as I am aware the UNAM never prepared a fe de erratas
> for that edition of Launey's 'Introduction'.
> On the other hand, Una Canger of the University of Copenhagen
> has prepared an extensive one. You may wish to contact her.
>
> If you read French you may also wish to consult the
> original French version, which is still in print at
> L'Harmattan in Paris. (I have heard though that the
> latest printing mis-spelled his name on the cover as
> "Launay"!) I understand that the Spanish edition
> introduced errors not appearing in the French
> original.  The French edition also has the advantage
> of a second volume of analyzed texts.

    Dear Listeros,

    Cf. <news:d0pksc$2h0$1 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>
uel <http://www.google.fr/groups?selm=d0pksc$2h0$1 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>.


    Budelberger, Richard.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


From kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM  Fri Mar 11 04:21:07 2005
From: kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM (Nadia Marin Guadarrama)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 22:21:07 -0600
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <THU.10.MAR.2005.222107.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hello Steffen,

Thank you!!!! I am really interested in having that fe de erratas (and I am sure that I am not the only one). I really appreciate very much your help! :) You have make me very happy!!

Nadia



Steffen Haurholm-Larsen <teddy_30 at HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:
Hi Nadia

I just noticed your mail on the nahuat-l mailing list today about the
correction list to Introduccion a la lengua y a litteratura n?huatl. As
someone commented Una Canger who is the head of our institute here in
Copenhagen has made such a list and I don't think it would be a problem for
me to get it for you electronically if you are interested.
Best regards

Steffen Haurholm-Larsen, University of Copenhagen, Institute of American
Indian Studies

_________________________________________________________________
Undg? pop-ups med MSN Toolbar - http://toolbar.msn.dk hent den gratis!



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From Huehueteot at AOL.COM  Wed Mar 16 01:23:31 2005
From: Huehueteot at AOL.COM (Huehueteot at AOL.COM)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:23:31 EST
Subject: A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl
Message-ID: <TUE.15.MAR.2005.202331.EST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

On 3/10/05 You wrote:

Can anyone advise where I can purchase a copy of the following  book?

R. Joe Campbell
" A morphological dictionary of classical  Nahuatl : a morpheme index to
the Vocabulario en lengua mexicana y castellana  of Fray Alonso de
Molina"
Madison : Hispanic Seminary of Medieval Studies,  c1985
ISBN: 094226052X

Many thanks for any help.

Best  Regards,

Walter O. Koenig

Walter:

Try Addall.com's used books section.  If that can't find it try a Rare  and
Out of print book search service.

Addall.com

_Http://www.addall.com_ (http://www.addall.com)

Rare and out of print books:

_Http://www.abebooks.com_ (http://www.abebooks.com)
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From amoxtli at EARTHLINK.NET  Wed Mar 16 02:40:18 2005
From: amoxtli at EARTHLINK.NET (Walter Koenig)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 18:40:18 -0800
Subject: A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl
In-Reply-To: <36.6ea48da9.2f68e493@aol.com>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.MAR.2005.184018.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Greetings,

Many thanks for your reply. I've already tried to the two web-sites you 
mentioned as well as www.abe.com and several others.
It seems the Dictionary is quite difficult to find. Thanks again.

Best Regards,

Walter O. Koenig



On Mar 15, 2005, at 5:23 PM, Huehueteot at AOL.COM wrote:

>
> On 3/10/05 You wrote:
> ?
> Can anyone advise where I can purchase a copy of the following book?
>
> R. Joe Campbell
> " A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl : a morpheme index to
> the Vocabulario en lengua mexicana y castellana of Fray Alonso de
> Molina"
> Madison : Hispanic Seminary of Medieval Studies, c1985
> ISBN: 094226052X
>
> Many thanks for any help.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Walter O. Koenig
>
> Walter:
> ?
> Try Addall.com's used books section.? If that can't find it try a Rare 
> and Out of print book search service.?
>  ?
> Addall.com
> ?
> Http://www.addall.com
> ?
> Rare and out of print books:
> ?
> Http://www.abebooks.com
>
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From ian.robertson at ASU.EDU  Wed Mar 16 04:53:11 2005
From: ian.robertson at ASU.EDU (Ian Robertson)
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2005 20:53:11 -0800
Subject: A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl
In-Reply-To: <05c5808934d22fa64ec31d98a0831e42@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <TUE.15.MAR.2005.205311.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Walter, contact bookbazaar at cyberus.ca <mailto:bookbazaar at cyberus.ca> in
Canada. I think they might have a copy of Joe Campbell's dictionary.

Best, Ian

Ian Robertson


From Huehueteot at AOL.COM  Wed Mar 16 06:32:28 2005
From: Huehueteot at AOL.COM (Huehueteot at AOL.COM)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 01:32:28 EST
Subject: A morphological dictionary of classical Nahuatl
Message-ID: <WED.16.MAR.2005.013228.EST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>


In a message dated 3/15/05 7:41:21 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
amoxtli at EARTHLINK.NET writes:

Greetings,

Many thanks for your reply. I've already tried to the  two web-sites you
mentioned as well as www.abe.com and several  others.
It seems the Dictionary is quite difficult to find. Thanks  again.

Best Regards,

Walter O.  Koenig



Walter:

Did you enter a want for the book?  They will search a large number of  book
sellers all over the world.  I have found very hard to find books  there when
nobody else could find them.

the URL for the Want entry page is:

_http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/WantEntry_
(http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/WantEntry)

Cheers,

Sam
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From dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM  Wed Mar 16 19:32:11 2005
From: dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM (Dustin De Felice)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 11:32:11 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <WED.16.MAR.2005.113211.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family, colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.  (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
 postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.

Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.

Dustin De Felice





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From swood at DARKWING.UOREGON.EDU  Wed Mar 16 21:40:44 2005
From: swood at DARKWING.UOREGON.EDU (Stephanie Wood)
Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:40:44 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <WED.16.MAR.2005.134044.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin,

I would be very interested in getting a copy.  My address is S. Wood, 1201 University of Oregon, Eugene, Oregon 97403-1201.  If you include a return address, I will send you back a donation to help cover the costs of the CD and postage.

Can you tell me more about who you are and how you got involved in this project?

Thanks!
Stephanie Wood
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dustin De Felice 
  To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU 
  Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2005 11:32 AM
  Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes


  Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family, colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.  (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.  

  Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.

  Dustin De Felice


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From Evidenz1 at AOL.COM  Thu Mar 17 16:17:42 2005
From: Evidenz1 at AOL.COM (Evidenz1 at AOL.COM)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 11:17:42 -0500
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes- Dustin de felice
Message-ID: <THU.17.MAR.2005.111742.0500.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Peter Itzerott
Bornwiesenweg 19
D 36323 Grebenau
Germany

I am very interested in getting a copy. My adress above.
Please include return adress for donation.
Thank You
Peter Itzerott


From lemcia at UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU  Fri Mar 18 04:44:28 2005
From: lemcia at UCLINK.BERKELEY.EDU (Monika Jarosz)
Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 20:44:28 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <THU.17.MAR.2005.204428.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin,

I am interested in getting a copy of your CD. Please, give me you address so
that I can send a donation to you.

Monika Jarosz
30175 Avenida Tranquila
Rancho Palos Verdes, CA 90275

Thank you

Monika Jarosz
Doctoral Student
Department of Anthropology
University of California Berkeley

>===== Original Message From Nahua language and culture discussion
<NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU> =====
>Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project
with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We
recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family,
colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a
few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were
edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.
(English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a
visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five
times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able
to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the
rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows
how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to
send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
> postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving
suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting
mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.
>
>Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>
>Dustin De Felice
>
>
>
>
>
>---------------------------------
>Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!


From zorrah at ATT.NET  Fri Mar 18 05:24:55 2005
From: zorrah at ATT.NET (zorrah at ATT.NET)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 05:24:55 +0000
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.052455.0000.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

panolti Dustin,
Kenon tonka?  I received the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email just fine.  I'm pleased that I am able to read a lot of the material in the guide.  I think it is helpful to have a background in Classical Nahuatl first...that is if one is a second language learner like me.  I'm impressed with the artwork and related text near the end.  I'm looking forward to the recordings.  I am among a few people who are waiting to receive your mailing address.  I will gladly send a prepaid, self-addressed envelope to you.

I will not be helpful as far as "errors" are concerned.  However, I am enjoying this work and so will many others I know.  Will you be presenting it somewhere?

Citlalin Xochime
Nahuatl Tlahtolkalli
http://nahuatl.info/nahuatl.htm
-------------- Original message from Dustin De Felice <dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM>: --------------


Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family, colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.  (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.

Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.

Dustin De Felice


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From jrabasa at CALMAIL.BERKELEY.EDU  Fri Mar 18 21:22:14 2005
From: jrabasa at CALMAIL.BERKELEY.EDU (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9?= Rabasa)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:22:14 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: <425124CD@bearmail.berkeley.edu>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.132214.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin,

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:

Jose Rabasa
2733 Prince St.
Berkeley, CA 94705

Also give me the address where you want me to send my donation.

Many thanks,

Jose Rabasa

>
><NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU> =====
>>Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project
>with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We
>recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family,
>colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a
>few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were
>edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.
>(English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a
>visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five
>times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able
>to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the
>rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows
>how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to
>send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
>>  postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving
>suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting
>mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.
>>
>>Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>>
>>Dustin De Felice
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>Do you Yahoo!?
>>  Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!


From mexicanoble at YAHOO.COM  Fri Mar 18 21:49:05 2005
From: mexicanoble at YAHOO.COM (Dean Mortera)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 13:49:05 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.134905.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Dustin,

Please e-mail me your home address so I can provide you your donation. Thank you

 -Dean

Jos? Rabasa <jrabasa at CALMAIL.BERKELEY.EDU> wrote:
Hi Dustin,

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:

Jose Rabasa
2733 Prince St.
Berkeley, CA 94705

Also give me the address where you want me to send my donation.

Many thanks,

Jose Rabasa

>
> =====
>>Hi. My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project
>with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico. We
>recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family,
>colors, etc. We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a
>few short paragraphs describing some pictures. All of these recordings were
>edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.
>(English/Spanish/Nahuatl). The final project contains a visual guide, a
>visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five
>times. I would like to share this CD with anyone interested. I would be able
>to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the
>rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail. (Unless someone knows
>how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.) I'm happy to
>send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
>> postage and handling. I'm also extremely interested in receiving
>suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting
>mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.
>>
>>Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>>
>>Dustin De Felice
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>Do you Yahoo!?
>> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!


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From MBOLIVAR at SAN.RR.COM  Fri Mar 18 22:44:51 2005
From: MBOLIVAR at SAN.RR.COM (Maria Bolivar)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 14:44:51 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: <p06110406be60f6a101ab@[192.168.123.181]>
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.144451.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin:
Please send me a copy of the materials to the following address:
Maria Bolivar
9615 Gold Coast Drive
San Diego, Ca. 92126

I will be happy to send you a donation if you send me an address.
Maria

-----Original Message-----
From: Nahua language and culture discussion
[mailto:NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Jos? Rabasa
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:22 PM
To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
Subject: Re: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes

Hi Dustin,

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:

Jose Rabasa
2733 Prince St.
Berkeley, CA 94705

Also give me the address where you want me to send my donation.

Many thanks,

Jose Rabasa

>
><NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU> =====
>>Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording
project
>with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero,
Mexico.  We
>recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals,
family,
>colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses
and a
>few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings
were
>edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual
format.
>(English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide,
a
>visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one
or five
>times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would
be able
>to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email,
but the
>rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone
knows
>how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy
to
>send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to
help with
>>  postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving
>suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting
>mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.
>>
>>Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>>
>>Dustin De Felice
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>Do you Yahoo!?
>>  Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!


From Spoole541 at AOL.COM  Sat Mar 19 00:20:28 2005
From: Spoole541 at AOL.COM (Stafford Poole)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 19:20:28 EST
Subject: Symposium in Seville, July 2006
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.192028.EST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Dear Fritz:

Are you still looking for papers for the Americanists meeting in Seville?

Stafford


From DCuevas at AOL.COM  Sat Mar 19 01:59:31 2005
From: DCuevas at AOL.COM (DCuevas at AOL.COM)
Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2005 20:59:31 EST
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <FRI.18.MAR.2005.205931.EST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin,

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:

Danzas De Aztlan
Dimas Cuevas Jr.
2765 W Maple Street
Rialto, CA 92376

Also give me the address where you want me to send my donation.

Many thanks,

Dimas Cuevas Jr
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From Xhicana at AOL.COM  Sat Mar 19 16:46:48 2005
From: Xhicana at AOL.COM (Xhicana at AOL.COM)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 11:46:48 EST
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <SAT.19.MAR.2005.114648.EST.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Dustin:

I am very interested in obtaining a copy of your CD.  Please send me your
address so that I can mail you payment for it.  My mailing address is:

MarlaJean Moreno
3295 West Avondale #17
Denver, CO  80204


Thanks!
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From rayparker at COMCAST.NET  Sat Mar 19 17:45:20 2005
From: rayparker at COMCAST.NET (Ray Parker)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 10:45:20 -0700
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
Message-ID: <SAT.19.MAR.2005.104520.0700.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin;

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:
Ray Parker
11650 Lincoln St
Denver, CO 80233

Also give me the address where you want me to send a donation.

Many thanks,

Ray Parker


From dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM  Sun Mar 20 02:17:57 2005
From: dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM (Dustin De Felice)
Date: Sat, 19 Mar 2005 18:17:57 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: 6667
Message-ID: <SAT.19.MAR.2005.181757.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

kuali.  yawili mano,

I'm glad you liked it.  The artwork is one of my favorite parts.  My informant is a man by the name of Marcial Camilo Ayala, who is a famous artist in the amante tradition.  You can google his name to see more of his work.  He is an impressive painter.  I've visited with him many times in his home and seen more of his collection.  You can reach me at:

Dustin De Felice
2228 N. Nagle Ave.
Chicago, IL 60707-3416

I haven't made any definite plans, but I am looking into presenting it at Northeastern Illinois University (where I am student) in a month of so.

Thanks for taking a lot at it and once I get your SASE, I'll gladly send you the entire CD.

Sincerely,

Dustin

zorrah at ATT.NET wrote:


panolti Dustin,

Kenon tonka?  I received the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email just fine.  I'm pleased that I am able to read a lot of the material in the guide.  I think it is helpful to have a background in Classical Nahuatl first...that is if one is a second language learner like me.  I'm impressed with the artwork and related text near the end.  I'm looking forward to the recordings.  I am among a few people who are waiting to receive your mailing address.  I will gladly send a prepaid, self-addressed envelope to you.

I will not be helpful as far as "errors" are concerned.  However, I am enjoying this work and so will many others I know.  Will you be presenting it somewhere?

Citlalin Xochime
Nahuatl Tlahtolkalli
http://nahuatl.info/nahuatl.htm
-------------- Original message from Dustin De Felice <dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM>: --------------

Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family, colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.  (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
 postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.

Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.

Dustin De Felice





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From Ian.Mursell at BTINTERNET.COM  Sun Mar 20 17:14:40 2005
From: Ian.Mursell at BTINTERNET.COM (Ian Mursell)
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 17:14:40 +0000
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: <20050316193211.76674.qmail@web52405.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <SUN.20.MAR.2005.171440.0000.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

> Hi Dustin.
> 
> If I?m not too late, I?d be very interested in receiving a copy of your
> project, by email (what can be sent) and/or by CD by post, and of course I?d
> be delighted to send you some money to  cover the costs involved.  My address
> is below.  Please supply full details for posting back to you.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Ian
> 
Ian Mursell
Director
Mexicolore
28 Warriner Gardens
London SW11 4EB, U.K.
Tel: +44 (0) 20 7622 9577
Fax: +44 (0) 20 7498 3643
www.mexicolore.co.uk
Ian.Mursell at btinternet.com
info at mexicolore.co.uk

1980-2005: 25 years of bringing Mexico and the Aztecs to life in schools and
museums throughout England.  Team visits, online teaching resources and
services, live interactive videoconferencing sessions, and much more - all
from Mexicolore, the 'highly successful teaching team' (British Museum
Education Service)


> 
> Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project
> with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We
> recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family,
> colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a
> few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were
> edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.
> (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a
> visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five
> times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able
> to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the
> rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows
> how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to
> send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to help with
> postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions
> on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might
> be found throughout the CD.
>  
> Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>  
> Dustin De Felice
>  
> 
> Do you Yahoo!?
> Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!
> <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=31637/*http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/>


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From schwallr at morris.umn.edu  Mon Mar 21 14:04:03 2005
From: schwallr at morris.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 08:04:03 -0600
Subject: Symposium in Seville, July 2006
In-Reply-To: <1a0.2fd32a38.2f6cca4c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <MON.21.MAR.2005.080403.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

At 06:20 PM 3/18/2005, you wrote:
>Are you still looking for papers for the Americanists meeting in Seville?


Yes indeed.  We have broadened the topic to translations in general.

Fritz




John F. Schwaller
Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Dean
315 Behmler Hall
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
FAX 320-589-6399
schwallr at morris.umn.edu


From Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM  Mon Mar 21 14:49:11 2005
From: Irene.Padilla at FMC-NA.COM (Irene Padilla)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 06:49:11 -0800
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
In-Reply-To: <001c01c52c0c$19518610$eacf4a42@Main>
Message-ID: <MON.21.MAR.2005.064911.0800.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hi Dustin:
Please send me a copy of the materials to the following address:
Irene Padilla
563 N 10th St
San Jose, Ca  95112


I will be happy to send you a donation if you send me an address.
~Irene 





Maria Bolivar <MBOLIVAR at SAN.RR.COM>
Sent by: Nahua language and culture discussion <NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
03/18/05 02:44 PM
Please respond to Nahua language and culture discussion
 
        To:     NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
        cc: 
        Subject:        Re: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes


Hi Dustin:
Please send me a copy of the materials to the following address:
Maria Bolivar
9615 Gold Coast Drive
San Diego, Ca. 92126

I will be happy to send you a donation if you send me an address.
Maria

-----Original Message-----
From: Nahua language and culture discussion
[mailto:NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Jos? Rabasa
Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 1:22 PM
To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
Subject: Re: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes

Hi Dustin,

Please send me a copy of the materials to my home address:

Jose Rabasa
2733 Prince St.
Berkeley, CA 94705

Also give me the address where you want me to send my donation.

Many thanks,

Jose Rabasa

>
><NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU> =====
>>Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording
project
>with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero,
Mexico.  We
>recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals,
family,
>colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses
and a
>few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings
were
>edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual
format.
>(English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide,
a
>visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one
or five
>times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would
be able
>to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email,
but the
>rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone
knows
>how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy
to
>send this CD by mail and would accept donations of a dollar or so to
help with
>>  postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving
>suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting
>mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.
>>
>>Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.
>>
>>Dustin De Felice
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>---------------------------------
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>>  Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!

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From schwallr at morris.umn.edu  Mon Mar 21 15:02:32 2005
From: schwallr at morris.umn.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 09:02:32 -0600
Subject: Etiquette of reply
Message-ID: <MON.21.MAR.2005.090232.0600.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Dear list members,

I am sure that Dustin is pleased that the warm reception of his offer of
CDs.  Nevertheless, I would request that when you reply back to him you do
it off line, that is look to see that the address in the To: field is his
address and not that of the discussion list.  It will save all of us from
reading your address, and consequently having that information sent to all
subscribers, and to the various services that collect these messages for
posterity.

J. F. Schwaller
List Owner



John F. Schwaller
Vice Chancellor for Academic Affairs and Dean
315 Behmler Hall
University of Minnesota, Morris
600 E 4th Street
Morris, MN  56267
320-589-6015
FAX 320-589-6399
schwallr at morris.umn.edu


From jalvar at CANTV.NET  Mon Mar 21 20:33:25 2005
From: jalvar at CANTV.NET (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Jos=E9_=C1lvarez?=)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 16:33:25 -0400
Subject: Maestros de Milpa Alta
Message-ID: <MON.21.MAR.2005.163325.0400.NAHUATL@LISTS.UMN.EDU>

Hola:
 
Soy un ling?ista venezolano que trabaja desde hace 20 a?os sobre lenguas
ind?genas de mi pa?s (algunas de ellas con una complejidad morfol?gica que
da gusto). Hace unos tres meses tiempo fui a Hermosillo a un congreso de
ling??stica y, de paso por Ciudad de M?xico, por curiosidad compr? varias
libros sobre n?huatl cl?sico. Al llegar a Venezuela comenc? a estudiarlos y
me qued? fascinado con la lengua. As? que orden? m?s libros por Amazon y
Barnes & Noble, y tambi?n me subscrib? a la lista. Voy a volver a M?xico en
abril por s?lo 5 d?as, pero quisiera pasar al menos 3 de esos d?as con
hablantes de n?huatl de Milpa Alta y alrededores (confieso que bajo el
influjo de Horcasitas) para aclarar unas dudas. De hecho, uno de los libros
que compr? es un curso con cassettes de n?huatl hablado, por Jos? Concepci?n
Flores Arce (llamado tambi?n "el Maestro Xochimec"). Yo asumo que el curso
es de n?huatl de Milpa Alta, ya que ?l es oriundo de all?. Ahora bien, mis
preguntas para la lista son:
 
1. ?Est? vivo y bien el Maestro Xochime'? ?C?mo podr? localizarlo?
2. ?Habla Librado Silva Galeana (traductor de Huehuehtlahtolli) ese mismo
dialecto? Si es as?, ?est? vivo y bien?
3. ?Conocen los miembros de la lista alg?n maestro de Milpa Alta y
alrededores que hable n?huatl, que me atienda por 3 d?as por un pago
razonable?
5. ?Podr?a alguien hacerme la misericordia de conseguirme una fotocopia del
trabajo de Whorf 1946[1939] "The Milpa Alta dialect of Aztec with notes on
the Classical and the Tepotztl?n Dialects"? No hay modo en que pueda
obtenerlo en Venezuela y mi estancia en M?xico ser? muy breve para
procurarlo. Son 30 p?ginas. Abajo est? mi direcci?n, por si acaso.
 
Muy agradecido,
 
 
Jos? ?lvarez
Departamento de Ciencias Humanas
Universidad del Zulia
Maracaibo, Venezuela
 
 
Direcci?n:
Calle 83 # 9-38
Edificio T?chira
Apartamento 1-B
Maracaibo 4001
Venezuela
 
 
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From MBOLIVAR at SAN.RR.COM  Mon Mar 21 21:32:18 2005
From: MBOLIVAR at SAN.RR.COM (Maria Bolivar)
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2005 13:32:18 -0800
Subject: Maestros de Milpa Alta
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Jos? y colisteros:
Yo trabaj? hace mil a?os en Milpa Alta (bueno, no tantos, pero con el
cambio a gobierno, Milpa Alta cambi? mucho, para bien). En la delegaci?n
pol?tica, hoy gobierno del Distrito Federal. Ah? en la delegaci?n
llev?bamos un registro de nahuatl hablantes. Era minuncioso y adem?s se
llevaba muy buena relaci?n con los profesores de la regi?n. Yo trabaj?
espec?ficamente en registrar nombres, direcciones y datos de los
hablantes de n?huatl y en actualizar el padr?n. Tambi?n trabaj? en un
padr?n de artesanos y de productores de mole. Mi mayor logro fue el
registro del n?mero de telares de cintura que todav?a exist?an en la
zona. Algunos viejecitos de Milpa Alta pasaban de los cien a?os. Era una
zona conocida por la longevidad de sus habitantes. Era fascinante la
zona. Nunca he tenido un trabajo m?s intenso ni m?s apasionante que ese.
Yo era directora de acci?n social. No s? si ese cargo todav?a exista con
el nuevo r?gimen jur?dico. Nosotros ten?amos que desplazarnos por los 12
pueblos que conforman la delegaci?n diariamente. Formamos huertos,
vacunamos aves, hablamos con los nopaleros. Ah? com? los mejores
nopalitos y me deleit? con las mil maneras de prepararlos, tambi?n
conoc? todo lo que s? acerca del mole y de las distintas maneras en que
este se prepara. Ah?, en Milpa Alta, no en todos los entonces llamados
?pueblos? se hablaba el n?huatl, pero en los lugares donde se hablaba
los hablantes biling?es eran mayor?a. En d?a de muertos consegu? una
participaci?n monumental para integrar a las celebraciones ancestrales a
la delegaci?n pol?tica. Montamos una ofrenda en el quiosco de la
cabecera, Milpa Alta, que much?sima gente acudi? a admirar. Mi paso por
Milpa Alta me llev? a apreciar ese tiempo de muertos en que el campo se
viste de cempaz?chitl. Es tan bonito como se pone todo amarillo y con
ese olor a flor que es fuerte y que no se puede pasar de largo. Tambi?n
conoc? ah? las aut?nticas alegr?as y el pan de huesito. Tuve el
privilegio de conocer Milpa Alta cuando todav?a no estaba integrada al
resto del DF. Llegabas por la carretera vieja a Cuernavaca. Sus
vallecitos y sus casas e iglesias antiguas la hac?an super especial. 
 
El tiempo es cruel. Los pueblos de Milpa Alta son San Bartolom?, Yo te
sugiero que entres en contacto con la delegaci?n y a ellos les consultes
como encontrar al maestro Xochimec. Estoy segura que te ser?
relativamente f?cil dar con ?l o con cualquier otro maestro de la zona.
Para todos les digo que los nombres de los pueblos son todos en N?huatl,
con su equivalente en espa?ol. Milpa Alta es la zona que con mayor
fidelidad guarda la memoria ind?gena en el Distrito Federal.
Tambi?n fue un basti?n del zapatismo. Ah? hay much?simos sitios donde
puedes escarbar y hallar armas zapatistas, carabinas. Entre la gente
milpaltense hay magn?ficos narradores. Es un lugar excepcional que pocos
visitan. Espero de coraz?n que lo hagas y sabr?s que hay otra dimensi?n
y profundidad en esa ciudad cuya historia es vertical, como un
palimpsesto.
 
Los nombres en N?huatl de los pueblos de Milpa Alta o Malacahtepec
 
Atocpan (San Pedro), Cuauhtenco (San Salvador), Malacahtepec (Villa
Milpa Alta), Miacatl?n (San Jer?nimo), Ohtenco (San Agust?n), Oztotepec
(San Pablo), Tecomitl (San Antonio), Tecoxpa (San Francisco), Tepenahuac
(San Juan), Tlacotenco (Santa Ana), Tlacoyucan (San Lorenzo), Xicomulco
(San Bartolom?).
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Nahua language and culture discussion
[mailto:NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU] On Behalf Of Jos? ?lvarez
Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:33 PM
To: NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU
Subject: Maestros de Milpa Alta
 
Hola:
 
Soy un ling?ista venezolano que trabaja desde hace 20 a?os sobre lenguas
ind?genas de mi pa?s (algunas de ellas con una complejidad morfol?gica
que da gusto). Hace unos tres meses tiempo fui a Hermosillo a un
congreso de ling??stica y, de paso por Ciudad de M?xico, por curiosidad
compr? varias libros sobre n?huatl cl?sico. Al llegar a Venezuela
comenc? a estudiarlos y me qued? fascinado con la lengua. As? que orden?
m?s libros por Amazon y Barnes & Noble, y tambi?n me subscrib? a la
lista. Voy a volver a M?xico en abril por s?lo 5 d?as, pero quisiera
pasar al menos 3 de esos d?as con hablantes de n?huatl de Milpa Alta y
alrededores (confieso que bajo el influjo de Horcasitas) para aclarar
unas dudas. De hecho, uno de los libros que compr? es un curso con
cassettes de n?huatl hablado, por Jos? Concepci?n Flores Arce (llamado
tambi?n "el Maestro Xochimec"). Yo asumo que el curso es de n?huatl de
Milpa Alta, ya que ?l es oriundo de all?. Ahora bien, mis preguntas para
la lista son:
 
1. ?Est? vivo y bien el Maestro Xochime'? ?C?mo podr? localizarlo?
2. ?Habla Librado Silva Galeana (traductor de Huehuehtlahtolli) ese
mismo dialecto? Si es as?, ?est? vivo y bien?
3. ?Conocen los miembros de la lista alg?n maestro de Milpa Alta y
alrededores que hable n?huatl, que me atienda por 3 d?as por un pago
razonable?
5. ?Podr?a alguien hacerme la misericordia de conseguirme una fotocopia
del trabajo de Whorf 1946[1939] "The Milpa Alta dialect of Aztec with
notes on the Classical and the Tepotztl?n Dialects"? No hay modo en que
pueda obtenerlo en Venezuela y mi estancia en M?xico ser? muy breve para
procurarlo. Son 30 p?ginas. Abajo est? mi direcci?n, por si acaso.
 
Muy agradecido,
 
 
Jos? ?lvarez
Departamento de Ciencias Humanas
Universidad del Zulia
Maracaibo, Venezuela
 
 
Direcci?n:
Calle 83 # 9-38
Edificio T?chira
Apartamento 1-B
Maracaibo 4001
Venezuela
 
 
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From macuil2 at MSN.COM  Wed Mar 23 04:20:32 2005
From: macuil2 at MSN.COM (Raul macuil martinez)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 05:20:32 +0100
Subject: Maestros de Milpa Alta
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From arnibionic at YAHOO.DE  Wed Mar 23 13:11:38 2005
From: arnibionic at YAHOO.DE (=?iso-8859-1?q?Arnd=20S=F6lling?=)
Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 14:11:38 +0100
Subject: Brief Nahuatl guide with sound bytes
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Dustin De Felice <dustintyrone at YAHOO.COM> wrote:Hi.  My name is Dustin De Felice and I recently finished a recording project with a native speaker of Nahuatl from San Agustin Oapan, Guerrero, Mexico.  We recorded a number of vocabulary items in such topics as animals, family, colors, etc.  We also conjugated a number of verbs in different tenses and a few short paragraphs describing some pictures.  All of these recordings were edited and attached to a Microsoft Word document in a trilingual format.  (English/Spanish/Nahuatl).  The final project contains a visual guide, a visual guide with audio links and wave files of each item repeated one or five times.  I would like to share this CD with anyone interested.  I would be able to send the main project piece, the visual guide (3.46 MB) by email, but the rest would need to be sent on a CD through the mail.  (Unless someone knows how to send close to 500 MB and multiple files using email.)  I'm happy to send this CD by mail and would
 accept donations of a dollar or so to help with postage and handling.  I'm also extremely interested in receiving suggestions on how to better present the information and on correcting mistakes that might be found throughout the CD.

Thank you and I look forward to sharing this work with you.

Dustin De Felice






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From budelberger.richard at 9ONLINE.FR  Tue Mar 29 22:00:00 2005
From: budelberger.richard at 9ONLINE.FR (Budelberger, Richard)
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2005 00:00:00 +0200
Subject: fe de erratas for Launey's book
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10 germinal an CCXIII (le 30 mars 2005 d. c.-d. c. g.), 00h00.

---- Message d'origine ----
De : Michael Swanton <mwswanton at YAHOO.COM>
? : <NAHUAT-L at LISTS.UMN.EDU>
Envoy? : samedi 5 mars 2005 17:28
Objet : Re: fe de erratas for Launey's book

    Dear Listeros,

> --- Nadia Marin Guadarrama <kimi_nadiaxxi at YAHOO.COM> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I started to learn Nahuatl with Michel Launey's book
>> Introducci?n a la Lengua y a la Literatura N?huatl.
>> The edition is in Spanish and is published by UNAM;
>> however, it has errors. I know there is a Fe de erratas
>> for that edition, but I don't have it.
>> Could you help me to get that fe de erratas?
>>
>>
>> Muchas gracias!!
>>
>> Nadia Mar?n-Guadarrama
>
> As far as I am aware the UNAM never prepared a fe de erratas
> for that edition of Launey's 'Introduction'.
> On the other hand, Una Canger of the University of Copenhagen
> has prepared an extensive one. You may wish to contact her.
>
> If you read French you may also wish to consult the
> original French version, which is still in print at
> L'Harmattan in Paris. (I have heard though that the
> latest printing mis-spelled his name on the cover as
> "Launay"!) I understand that the Spanish edition
> introduced errors not appearing in the French original.

    Cf. <news:d0pksc$2h0$1 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>,
        <news:d2clkt$9ps$12 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>,
        <news:d2clkv$9ps$13 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>
uel <http://www.google.fr/groups?threadm=d2clkt$9ps$12 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.net>.

> The French edition also has the advantage
> of a second volume of analyzed texts.

    Cf. <news:d2clkl$9ps$11 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.ne>
uel <http://www.google.fr/groups?selm=d2clkl$9ps$11 at aphrodite.grec.isp.9tel.ne>.


    Budelberger, Richard.
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