From macuil2 at msn.com  Fri Jun  1 02:35:40 2007
From: macuil2 at msn.com (Raul macuil martinez)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 04:35:40 +0200
Subject: Pregunta..
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From k_salmon at ipinc.net  Fri Jun  1 04:25:10 2007
From: k_salmon at ipinc.net (Kier Salmon)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:25:10 -0700
Subject: Pregunta..
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En el libro dirigido por Pilar Gonzalbo Azipuru y Coordinado por  
Pablo Escalante Gonzalbo "Historia de la Vida Cotidiana en México, I  
(Mesoamerica y los ámbitos indígenas de la Nueva España)" en el  
capitulo 8, La Cortesía, los afectos y la sexualidad, se cubren estos  
aspectos.  Hace unos meses que leí el libro y si mal no recuerdo, la  
forma cortes de saludar alguien en la calle era decir "Amigo, no me  
dejes empujarte."
Ah!  Aqui esta, los macehualtin decian, "Mi hermanito, No te asuste  
yo! y se se encuentran en el camino dicen, "No te vayas a caer, mi  
hermanito.  Ven, aqui, mi hermanito, No te vaya a empujar.
se traduce ma nimitznotlaxillitzino (los nobles)
ma nimitznotlaxilli (los macehualli)
etc etc... hay diferencias entre hombres y mujers, pilli y macehualli  
y otros.  Se cubre con much detalle en este libro.


On May 31, 2007, at 7:35 PM, Raul macuil martinez wrote:

>
>
> Saludos a todos los listeros.
>
> Tengo una pregunta, como se escribe: buenos días en nñahuatl ? ya  
> que la traducción muy conocida es: cualli tonalli, pero esta es una  
> traducción literal del español.
>
> Cual es la forma más antigua para este tipo de saludo?.
>
> Raul Macuil Martínez
>
>
>
>
> Raul Macuil Martínez.
>
> From: "John F. Schwaller" <schwallr at potsdam.edu>
> To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> Subject: [Nahuat-l] URL for DVD article
> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:56:39 -0500
> >
> >I apologize, but some how the URL for the web page I posted becomes
> >corrupted when it is managed by the list software. Again here it is:
> >
> >http://www.munhispano.com/?nid%5&sid‡6693
> >
> >that is www.munhispano.com/?nid%5&sid‡6693
> >
> >a question mark appears between the / and the nid, then an equal sign
> >> >an ampersand & appears between the 255 and the sid, and an equal sign
> >follows the sid
> >
> >It seems that the two equal signs are being corrupted
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >John F. Schwaller
> >President
> >SUNY Potsdam
> >44 Pierrepont Ave.
> >Potsdam, NY 13676
> >
> >315-267-2100
> >315-267-2496 fax
> >
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From joostkremers at fastmail.fm  Fri Jun  1 15:10:37 2007
From: joostkremers at fastmail.fm (Joost Kremers)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:10:37 +0200
Subject: dictionary program
In-Reply-To: <0C76D210-59C5-4C3E-879E-12EAF79F01C8@mac.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.171037.0200.JOOSTKREMERS@FASTMAIL.FM>

Hi John,

>    I am looking for a dictionary program/utility for Mac OSX that behaves
>    like  the English dictionary program that comes with Mac OSX, but that
>    will  let  me input data my own data. This program does a "progressive
>    search":  if  I  type in the letter "a", a list of all words beginning
>    with   "a"  appears.  Then,  if  I  type  the  letter  "b",  the  list
>    automatically  reduces  itself to all words beginning with "ab-, etc.,
>    etc.  What is the technical term for this type of search behavior, and
>    where can I find this kind of program?

I have no idea if something like that is available at all. have you tried
searching Google?

The kind of search you describe is often called "incremental search",
though. There might be other words for it, but that's the one I hear the
most.

-- 
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50923 Cologne, Germany
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From chelodona at argentina.com  Fri Jun  1 16:37:03 2007
From: chelodona at argentina.com (Chelo Dona)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 13:37:03 -0300
Subject: dictionary program
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.133703.0300.CHELODONA@ARGENTINA.COM>

Hi 
The help system in Windows works in this "incremental" way. I think You don't need a dictionary already in this form, but a list with the words and their meanings. You should compile the list, to create a file with hlp extension (with the "windows help compiler" from microsoft) that the explorer opens in this index fashion .. Not very difficult process, any guy with some programming skills could help you.  Don't know how different it is in the Mac or Linux sides of the world, but should be almost the same. 
I hope it helps you a bit. Forgive my english, it need to be compiled too. ;)
Dona

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From dcwright at prodigy.net.mx  Fri Jun  1 16:53:00 2007
From: dcwright at prodigy.net.mx (David Wright)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:53:00 -0500
Subject: Saludos en n�huatl
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.115300.0500.DCWRIGHT@PRODIGY.NET.MX>

Estimado Raúl:
 
En el "Vocabulario manual" de Pedro de Arenas (pp. 1 y 2) hay una sección
sobre "PALABRAS DE SALUTACION" (pp. 1 y 2). Se trata de un libro de frases,
escrito a principios del siglo XVII para españoles, para que pudieran tratar
con los indios. En varias partes se puede observar el maltrato verbal que
solían recibir los indios por parte de los europeos. No hay nada parecido a
"buenos días". Varios de los saludos tienen la palabra castellana "Dios",
como la entrada que dice "Dios sea contigo--Ma Dios motlan motetztle". Otro
es "como te va--quen tinemi". Hay más. Vale la pena consultar esta obra. Hay
dos ediciones modernas:
 
Arenas, Pedro de, “Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y mexicana”,
facsímil de la ed. de 1611, en Obras clásicas sobre la lengua náhuatl, ed.
digital, Ascensión Hernández de León-Portilla, compiladora, Madrid,
Fundación Histórica Tavera/Mapfre Mutualidad/Digibis, 1998.
 
Arenas, Pedro de, Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y mexicana,
facsímil, estudio de Ascensión Hernández de León-Portilla, México, Instituto
de Investigaciones Filológicas/Instituto de Investigaciones Históricas,
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México, 1982.
 
Saludos,
 
David
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From cipactonal at yahoo.com.mx  Fri Jun  1 17:30:03 2007
From: cipactonal at yahoo.com.mx (Ignacio Silva)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:30:03 -0500
Subject: Pregunta..
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-F2636C679512531597E1676E82C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.123003.0500.CIPACTONAL@YAHOO.COM.MX>

Raul, la forma que se utiliza mas en Milpa Alta es la siguiente:
   
  Quen otlathuililoc? (Como se hizo en ti el amanecer?)
  en su forma simple.
   
  Que otimotlathuilti? (¿Como se hizo en ti el amanecer? )
  en su forma reverencial.

Raul macuil martinez <macuil2 at msn.com> escribió:
      


  Saludos a todos los listeros.
  Tengo una pregunta, como se escribe: buenos días en nñahuatl ? ya que la traducción muy conocida es: cualli tonalli, pero esta es una traducción literal del español.
  Cual es la forma más antigua para este tipo de saludo?.
  Raul Macuil Martínez



     
  Raul Macuil Martínez. 

    
---------------------------------
  From: "John F. Schwaller" <schwallr at potsdam.edu>
To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
Subject: [Nahuat-l] URL for DVD article
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:56:39 -0500
>
>I apologize, but some how the URL for the web page I posted becomes
>corrupted when it is managed by the list software. Again here it is:
>
>http://www.munhispano.com/?nid=255&sid=876693
>
>that is www.munhispano.com/?nid=255&sid=876693
>
>a question mark appears between the / and the nid, then an equal sign
>= follows that
>an ampersand & appears between the 255 and the sid, and an equal sign
>follows the sid
>
>It seems that the two equal signs are being corrupted
>
>
>
>
>John F. Schwaller
>President
>SUNY Potsdam
>44 Pierrepont Ave.
>Potsdam, NY 13676
>
>315-267-2100
>315-267-2496 fax
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From idiez at mac.com  Fri Jun  1 17:55:00 2007
From: idiez at mac.com (John Sullivan, Ph.D.)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:55:00 -0500
Subject: Saludos en n=?iso-8859-1?Q?=E1huatl?=
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAFSuI922EoRPiKSCadztChvCgAAAEAAAAH8uq3miIKVKrso5x8ctFjYBAAAAAA==@prodigy.net.mx>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.125500.0500.IDIEZ@MAC.COM>

Listeros,
	The closest thing to "Buenos días" in modern Huastecan Nahuatl is  
tlanezquiya, "ya amaneció", "it has dawned", or literally, "appearing  
(of the sun) has just (or already) happened".
John

John Sullivan, Ph.D.
Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
Universidad Autónoma de Zacatecas
Instituto de Docencia e Investigación Etnológica de Zacatecas, A.C.
Tacuba 152, int. 47
Centro Histórico
Zacatecas, Zac. 98000
México
Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415
Fax: +52 (492) 925-3416
Domicilio: +52 (492) 768-6048
Celular: +52 (492) 118-0854
idiez at mac.com
www.idiez.org.mx
www.macehualli.org







On Jun 1, 2007, at 11:53 AM, David Wright wrote:

> Estimado Raúl:
>
> En el "Vocabulario manual" de Pedro de Arenas (pp. 1 y 2) hay una  
> sección sobre "PALABRAS DE SALUTACION" (pp. 1 y 2). Se trata de un  
> libro de frases, escrito a principios del siglo XVII para  
> españoles, para que pudieran tratar con los indios. En varias  
> partes se puede observar el maltrato verbal que solían recibir los  
> indios por parte de los europeos. No hay nada parecido a "buenos  
> días". Varios de los saludos tienen la palabra castellana "Dios",  
> como la entrada que dice "Dios sea contigo--Ma Dios motlan  
> motetztle". Otro es "como te va--quen tinemi". Hay más. Vale la  
> pena consultar esta obra. Hay dos ediciones modernas:
>
> Arenas, Pedro de, “Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y  
> mexicana”, facsímil de la ed. de 1611, en Obras clásicas sobre  
> la lengua náhuatl, ed. digital, Ascensión Hernández de León- 
> Portilla, compiladora, Madrid, Fundación Histórica Tavera/Mapfre  
> Mutualidad/Digibis, 1998.
>
> Arenas, Pedro de, Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y  
> mexicana, facsímil, estudio de Ascensión Hernández de León- 
> Portilla, México, Instituto de Investigaciones Filológicas/ 
> Instituto de Investigaciones Históricas, Universidad Nacional  
> Autónoma de México, 1982.
>
> Saludos,
>
> David
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From david_becraft at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  1 18:13:57 2007
From: david_becraft at hotmail.com (David Becraft)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:13:57 -0700
Subject: Saludos en n=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E1huatl?=
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAFSuI922EoRPiKSCadztChvCgAAAEAAAAH8uq3miIKVKrso5x8ctFjYBAAAAAA==@prodigy.net.mx>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.111357.0700.DAVIDBECRAFT@HOTMAIL.COM>

Estimado David Wright

There are in some regions of Guerrero formal salutations in which the words 
"good" are added as part of the salutation.  In the ethnographic interviews 
I have had with informants of Nahuatl speech, I have been told of the 
following:
Kwalli tlaneshtli, "Good Morn"
kwalli tonalli, "good day"
kwalli teotlac, "good afternoon"
kwalli yowalli, "good evening/night"
keno tinemi, "what's up?/how's it going?/q-vole/ etc"
timota, "see you tomorrow/later"
sincerely,

Pancho


>From: David Wright <dcwright at prodigy.net.mx>
>To: "Nahuat-l (messages)" <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
>Subject: [Nahuat-l] Saludos en n�huatl
>Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:53:00 -0500
>
>Estimado Ra�l:
>
>En el "Vocabulario manual" de Pedro de Arenas (pp. 1 y 2) hay una secci�n
>sobre "PALABRAS DE SALUTACION" (pp. 1 y 2). Se trata de un libro de frases,
>escrito a principios del siglo XVII para espa�oles, para que pudieran 
>tratar
>con los indios. En varias partes se puede observar el maltrato verbal que
>sol�an recibir los indios por parte de los europeos. No hay nada parecido a
>"buenos d�as". Varios de los saludos tienen la palabra castellana "Dios",
>como la entrada que dice "Dios sea contigo--Ma Dios motlan motetztle". Otro
>es "como te va--quen tinemi". Hay m�s. Vale la pena consultar esta obra. 
>Hay
>dos ediciones modernas:
>
>Arenas, Pedro de, �Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y 
>mexicana�,
>facs�mil de la ed. de 1611, en Obras cl�sicas sobre la lengua n�huatl, ed.
>digital, Ascensi�n Hern�ndez de Le�n-Portilla, compiladora, Madrid,
>Fundaci�n Hist�rica Tavera/Mapfre Mutualidad/Digibis, 1998.
>
>Arenas, Pedro de, Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y mexicana,
>facs�mil, estudio de Ascensi�n Hern�ndez de Le�n-Portilla, M�xico, 
>Instituto
>de Investigaciones Filol�gicas/Instituto de Investigaciones Hist�ricas,
>Universidad Nacional Aut�noma de M�xico, 1982.
>
>Saludos,
>
>David


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From idiez at mac.com  Fri Jun  1 19:55:24 2007
From: idiez at mac.com (John Sullivan, Ph.D.)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:55:24 -0500
Subject: dictionary program
In-Reply-To: <20070601151037.GA20380@teuctli>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.145524.0500.IDIEZ@MAC.COM>

Listeros,
	I think I found what I needed. The Macintosh word processor, "Pages"  
has a search function called "Show Search". It opens up a side bar  
with an incremental search box at the top. As you type in letters it  
displays in the sidebar only those words in the document which  
include the letters you specify. Typing in "t, l, a, c, u, a, l, l,  
i" for example, will slowly narrow down the displayed words until  
only "tlacualli" is left in the list. But if you type in "c, u, a",  
for example, it shows all words containing that sequence of letters,  
irregardless of its position in the word. This is handy for locating  
occurrences of morphemes.
	Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.
John

John Sullivan, Ph.D.
Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
Universidad Autónoma de Zacatecas
Instituto de Docencia e Investigación Etnológica de Zacatecas, A.C.
Tacuba 152, int. 47
Centro Histórico
Zacatecas, Zac. 98000
México
Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415
Fax: +52 (492) 925-3416
Domicilio: +52 (492) 768-6048
Celular: +52 (492) 118-0854
idiez at mac.com
www.idiez.org.mx
www.macehualli.org





On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Joost Kremers wrote:

> Hi John,
>
>>    I am looking for a dictionary program/utility for Mac OSX that  
>> behaves
>>    like  the English dictionary program that comes with Mac OSX,  
>> but that
>>    will  let  me input data my own data. This program does a  
>> "progressive
>>    search":  if  I  type in the letter "a", a list of all words  
>> beginning
>>    with   "a"  appears.  Then,  if  I  type  the  letter  "b",   
>> the  list
>>    automatically  reduces  itself to all words beginning with  
>> "ab-, etc.,
>>    etc.  What is the technical term for this type of search  
>> behavior, and
>>    where can I find this kind of program?
>
> I have no idea if something like that is available at all. have you  
> tried
> searching Google?
>
> The kind of search you describe is often called "incremental search",
> though. There might be other words for it, but that's the one I  
> hear the
> most.
>
> -- 
> Joost Kremers, PhD
> University of Cologne
> Institute for German Language and Literature
> Albertus Magnus Platz
> 50923 Cologne, Germany
> Tel. +49 221 / 4703807
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From cberry at cine.net  Sat Jun  2 00:41:27 2007
From: cberry at cine.net (Craig Berry)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:41:27 -0700
Subject: Saludos en n=?iso-8859-1?Q?=E1huatl?=
In-Reply-To: <BAY141-F952D306ADEB0D277E66D78B2C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.174127.0700.CBERRY@CINE.NET>

On 6/1/07, David Becraft <david_becraft at hotmail.com> wrote:
> kwalli teotlac, "good afternoon"

Is that teo- the divine/unusual/big modifier we were discussing a few
months ago?  Is tlac carrying the sense of nourishment?  So this is
perhaps the time of the "big meal"?  Excuse me if I'm far off the
mark...I'm just curious, and trying out my paltry but slowly growing
Nahuatl skills.

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From silva171270 at prodigy.net.mx  Mon Jun 11 18:53:02 2007
From: silva171270 at prodigy.net.mx (Ignacio Silva)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:53:02 -0500
Subject: Buscando a Stephanie Wood.
Message-ID: <MON.11.JUN.2007.135302.0500.SILVA171270@PRODIGY.NET.MX>

Hola a todos,

estoy buscando a Stephanie Wood ya que los correos que le he enviado desde hace unas semanas han sido devueltos.

Mil gracias a todos.

Ignacio Silva:

isilva at herenciagrupocultural.com.mx


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From k_salmon at ipinc.net  Fri Jun 22 14:13:57 2007
From: k_salmon at ipinc.net (Kier Salmon)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:13:57 -0700
Subject: Offering Flowers
Message-ID: <FRI.22.JUN.2007.071357.0700.KSALMON@IPINC.NET>

Hopefully some of the more senior members can answer this question.   
Some time ago I ran into a vague reference to a book called "Offering  
Flowers" by Jerome Rothenberg.  After months of effort I finally,  
with a lot of help tracked it down as the title of a book, 8 copies  
of which are on worldcat and none of which is allowed into the stream  
of ILL.
Some more help from a friend has turned up a single edition (and the  
information that it is a translation by Anderson and Dibble   
arrainged by Rothenberg) for sale (apparently only 350 were ever  
printed) at $110.
So the question is... what is this?  Is it just things extracted from  
the massive Florentine Codex by A&D or is it part of Bierhorsts  
"Cantares"?
University of Utah does not have anything listed, and I'd like some  
more knowledge before I spend that much money.  My goal is to be able  
to portray my early 16th century characters as Mexica (not Cuautemoc  
as Bonnie Prince Charlie) and to understand how they spoke and  
thought.  Will this book aid in this or is it more useful to pick up  
the Cantares?
Thanks for any help on this thorny problem.
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From sylvia at famsi.org  Tue Jun 26 21:33:47 2007
From: sylvia at famsi.org (sylvia at famsi.org)
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:33:47 -0400
Subject: New Grantee Reports/Informes--Traducciones en Espanol
Message-ID: <TUE.26.JUN.2007.173347.0400.>

Hello Mesoamericanists,

New grantee final reports at FAMSI website include the following:

Human Sacrifice and Mortuary Treatments in the Great Temple of
Tenochtitlan (2005)
by Ximena Chavez Balderas.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/05054/index.html

Bioarchaeological Investigation of the Ancient Population Structure of
Mayapan (2005)
by Stanley Serafin.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/05033/index.html

Regional Investigations at the Cupul Province Trading Center of Xuenkal:
Proyecto Arqueologico Xuenkal (2005)
by Traci Ardren.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/05064/index.html


Nuevo en el sitio web de FAMSI:
Informes de investigacion de concesionarios traducidos del Ingles
al Espanol:

Los Efectos del Urbanismo sobre la Salud y la Demografia de la Poblacion
Posclasica de Cholula, Puebla (2004)
por Meggan M. Bullock.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/03066es/index.html

El Fechamiento por Radiocarbono de Edificios Publicos y de Rasgos Rituales
en el Antiguo Valle de Oaxaca (2004)
por Joyce Marcus y Kent V. Flannery.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/03006es/index.html

La Cultura Olmeca: Libro de Texto para Universidades Rusas (2005)
por Andrei V. Tabarev.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/05040es/index.html

Canciones Nicachi: Textos Rituales Zapoteca y Conocimientos Rituales
Clasicos Posteriores en Oaxaca Colonial (2003)
por David Tavarez.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/02050es/index.html

El Formativo temprano y medio en San Lorenzo, Veracruz, Mexico (2001)
por Anthony A. Vega.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/00103es/index.html

Actividades de Uso de Plantas y de Silvicultura entre los Antiguos Mayas en
Tikal, Guatemala (2004)
por David L. Lentz.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/03048es/index.html

Pinturas de la Ceramica Maya: El Arte y la Carrera de M. Louise Baker (2004)
por Elin C. Danien.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/03029es/index.html

Produccion de Alfareria Especializada y Complejidad Social en el Formativo
Mixteca Alta (2004)
por Veronica Perez Rodriguez.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/03025es/index.html

Saludos,

Sylvia Perrine, Archivist
Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies, Inc.
http://www.famsi.org/index.html

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From mwswanton at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 29 03:49:27 2007
From: mwswanton at yahoo.com (Michael Swanton)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:49:27 -0700
Subject: Huiquipedia
Message-ID: <THU.28.JUN.2007.204927.0700.MWSWANTON@YAHOO.COM>

With the long vowels marked and everything...

http://nah.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch?ntli




       
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From macuil2 at msn.com  Fri Jun  1 02:35:40 2007
From: macuil2 at msn.com (Raul macuil martinez)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 04:35:40 +0200
Subject: Pregunta..
In-Reply-To: <20070216205516.11976.qmail@hermes.potsdam.edu>
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From k_salmon at ipinc.net  Fri Jun  1 04:25:10 2007
From: k_salmon at ipinc.net (Kier Salmon)
Date: Thu, 31 May 2007 21:25:10 -0700
Subject: Pregunta..
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-F2636C679512531597E1676E82C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <THU.31.MAY.2007.212510.0700.KSALMON@IPINC.NET>

En el libro dirigido por Pilar Gonzalbo Azipuru y Coordinado por  
Pablo Escalante Gonzalbo "Historia de la Vida Cotidiana en M?xico, I  
(Mesoamerica y los ?mbitos ind?genas de la Nueva Espa?a)" en el  
capitulo 8, La Cortes?a, los afectos y la sexualidad, se cubren estos  
aspectos.  Hace unos meses que le? el libro y si mal no recuerdo, la  
forma cortes de saludar alguien en la calle era decir "Amigo, no me  
dejes empujarte."
Ah!  Aqui esta, los macehualtin decian, "Mi hermanito, No te asuste  
yo! y se se encuentran en el camino dicen, "No te vayas a caer, mi  
hermanito.  Ven, aqui, mi hermanito, No te vaya a empujar.
se traduce ma nimitznotlaxillitzino (los nobles)
ma nimitznotlaxilli (los macehualli)
etc etc... hay diferencias entre hombres y mujers, pilli y macehualli  
y otros.  Se cubre con much detalle en este libro.


On May 31, 2007, at 7:35 PM, Raul macuil martinez wrote:

>
>
> Saludos a todos los listeros.
>
> Tengo una pregunta, como se escribe: buenos d?as en n?ahuatl ? ya  
> que la traducci?n muy conocida es: cualli tonalli, pero esta es una  
> traducci?n literal del espa?ol.
>
> Cual es la forma m?s antigua para este tipo de saludo?.
>
> Raul Macuil Mart?nez
>
>
>
>
> Raul Macuil Mart?nez.
>
> From: "John F. Schwaller" <schwallr at potsdam.edu>
> To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> Subject: [Nahuat-l] URL for DVD article
> Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:56:39 -0500
> >
> >I apologize, but some how the URL for the web page I posted becomes
> >corrupted when it is managed by the list software. Again here it is:
> >
> >http://www.munhispano.com/?nid%5&sid?6693
> >
> >that is www.munhispano.com/?nid%5&sid?6693
> >
> >a question mark appears between the / and the nid, then an equal sign
> >> >an ampersand & appears between the 255 and the sid, and an equal sign
> >follows the sid
> >
> >It seems that the two equal signs are being corrupted
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >John F. Schwaller
> >President
> >SUNY Potsdam
> >44 Pierrepont Ave.
> >Potsdam, NY 13676
> >
> >315-267-2100
> >315-267-2496 fax
> >
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From joostkremers at fastmail.fm  Fri Jun  1 15:10:37 2007
From: joostkremers at fastmail.fm (Joost Kremers)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:10:37 +0200
Subject: dictionary program
In-Reply-To: <0C76D210-59C5-4C3E-879E-12EAF79F01C8@mac.com>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.171037.0200.JOOSTKREMERS@FASTMAIL.FM>

Hi John,

>    I am looking for a dictionary program/utility for Mac OSX that behaves
>    like  the English dictionary program that comes with Mac OSX, but that
>    will  let  me input data my own data. This program does a "progressive
>    search":  if  I  type in the letter "a", a list of all words beginning
>    with   "a"  appears.  Then,  if  I  type  the  letter  "b",  the  list
>    automatically  reduces  itself to all words beginning with "ab-, etc.,
>    etc.  What is the technical term for this type of search behavior, and
>    where can I find this kind of program?

I have no idea if something like that is available at all. have you tried
searching Google?

The kind of search you describe is often called "incremental search",
though. There might be other words for it, but that's the one I hear the
most.

-- 
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University of Cologne
Institute for German Language and Literature
Albertus Magnus Platz
50923 Cologne, Germany
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From chelodona at argentina.com  Fri Jun  1 16:37:03 2007
From: chelodona at argentina.com (Chelo Dona)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 13:37:03 -0300
Subject: dictionary program
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.133703.0300.CHELODONA@ARGENTINA.COM>

Hi 
The help system in Windows works in this "incremental" way. I think You don't need a dictionary already in this form, but a list with the words and their meanings. You should compile the list, to create a file with hlp extension (with the "windows help compiler" from microsoft) that the explorer opens in this index fashion .. Not very difficult process, any guy with some programming skills could help you. ?Don't know how different it is in the Mac or Linux sides of the world, but should be almost the same. 
I hope it helps you a bit. Forgive my english, it need to be compiled too. ;)
Dona

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From dcwright at prodigy.net.mx  Fri Jun  1 16:53:00 2007
From: dcwright at prodigy.net.mx (David Wright)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:53:00 -0500
Subject: Saludos en n�huatl
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.115300.0500.DCWRIGHT@PRODIGY.NET.MX>

Estimado Ra?l:
 
En el "Vocabulario manual" de Pedro de Arenas (pp. 1 y 2) hay una secci?n
sobre "PALABRAS DE SALUTACION" (pp. 1 y 2). Se trata de un libro de frases,
escrito a principios del siglo XVII para espa?oles, para que pudieran tratar
con los indios. En varias partes se puede observar el maltrato verbal que
sol?an recibir los indios por parte de los europeos. No hay nada parecido a
"buenos d?as". Varios de los saludos tienen la palabra castellana "Dios",
como la entrada que dice "Dios sea contigo--Ma Dios motlan motetztle". Otro
es "como te va--quen tinemi". Hay m?s. Vale la pena consultar esta obra. Hay
dos ediciones modernas:
 
Arenas, Pedro de, ?Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y mexicana?,
facs?mil de la ed. de 1611, en Obras cl?sicas sobre la lengua n?huatl, ed.
digital, Ascensi?n Hern?ndez de Le?n-Portilla, compiladora, Madrid,
Fundaci?n Hist?rica Tavera/Mapfre Mutualidad/Digibis, 1998.
 
Arenas, Pedro de, Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y mexicana,
facs?mil, estudio de Ascensi?n Hern?ndez de Le?n-Portilla, M?xico, Instituto
de Investigaciones Filol?gicas/Instituto de Investigaciones Hist?ricas,
Universidad Nacional Aut?noma de M?xico, 1982.
 
Saludos,
 
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From cipactonal at yahoo.com.mx  Fri Jun  1 17:30:03 2007
From: cipactonal at yahoo.com.mx (Ignacio Silva)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:30:03 -0500
Subject: Pregunta..
In-Reply-To: <BAY110-F2636C679512531597E1676E82C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.123003.0500.CIPACTONAL@YAHOO.COM.MX>

Raul, la forma que se utiliza mas en Milpa Alta es la siguiente:
   
  Quen otlathuililoc? (Como se hizo en ti el amanecer?)
  en su forma simple.
   
  Que otimotlathuilti? (?Como se hizo en ti el amanecer? )
  en su forma reverencial.

Raul macuil martinez <macuil2 at msn.com> escribi?:
      


  Saludos a todos los listeros.
  Tengo una pregunta, como se escribe: buenos d?as en n?ahuatl ? ya que la traducci?n muy conocida es: cualli tonalli, pero esta es una traducci?n literal del espa?ol.
  Cual es la forma m?s antigua para este tipo de saludo?.
  Raul Macuil Mart?nez



     
  Raul Macuil Mart?nez. 

    
---------------------------------
  From: "John F. Schwaller" <schwallr at potsdam.edu>
To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
Subject: [Nahuat-l] URL for DVD article
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 15:56:39 -0500
>
>I apologize, but some how the URL for the web page I posted becomes
>corrupted when it is managed by the list software. Again here it is:
>
>http://www.munhispano.com/?nid=255&sid=876693
>
>that is www.munhispano.com/?nid=255&sid=876693
>
>a question mark appears between the / and the nid, then an equal sign
>= follows that
>an ampersand & appears between the 255 and the sid, and an equal sign
>follows the sid
>
>It seems that the two equal signs are being corrupted
>
>
>
>
>John F. Schwaller
>President
>SUNY Potsdam
>44 Pierrepont Ave.
>Potsdam, NY 13676
>
>315-267-2100
>315-267-2496 fax
>
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From idiez at mac.com  Fri Jun  1 17:55:00 2007
From: idiez at mac.com (John Sullivan, Ph.D.)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 12:55:00 -0500
Subject: Saludos en n=?iso-8859-1?Q?=E1huatl?=
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAFSuI922EoRPiKSCadztChvCgAAAEAAAAH8uq3miIKVKrso5x8ctFjYBAAAAAA==@prodigy.net.mx>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.125500.0500.IDIEZ@MAC.COM>

Listeros,
	The closest thing to "Buenos d?as" in modern Huastecan Nahuatl is  
tlanezquiya, "ya amaneci?", "it has dawned", or literally, "appearing  
(of the sun) has just (or already) happened".
John

John Sullivan, Ph.D.
Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
Universidad Aut?noma de Zacatecas
Instituto de Docencia e Investigaci?n Etnol?gica de Zacatecas, A.C.
Tacuba 152, int. 47
Centro Hist?rico
Zacatecas, Zac. 98000
M?xico
Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415
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?






On Jun 1, 2007, at 11:53 AM, David Wright wrote:

> Estimado Ra?l:
>
> En el "Vocabulario manual" de Pedro de Arenas (pp. 1 y 2) hay una  
> secci?n sobre "PALABRAS DE SALUTACION" (pp. 1 y 2). Se trata de un  
> libro de frases, escrito a principios del siglo XVII para  
> espa?oles, para que pudieran tratar con los indios. En varias  
> partes se puede observar el maltrato verbal que sol?an recibir los  
> indios por parte de los europeos. No hay nada parecido a "buenos  
> d?as". Varios de los saludos tienen la palabra castellana "Dios",  
> como la entrada que dice "Dios sea contigo--Ma Dios motlan  
> motetztle". Otro es "como te va--quen tinemi". Hay m?s. Vale la  
> pena consultar esta obra. Hay dos ediciones modernas:
>
> Arenas, Pedro de, ?Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y  
> mexicana?, facs?mil de la ed. de 1611, en Obras cl?sicas sobre  
> la lengua n?huatl, ed. digital, Ascensi?n Hern?ndez de Le?n- 
> Portilla, compiladora, Madrid, Fundaci?n Hist?rica Tavera/Mapfre  
> Mutualidad/Digibis, 1998.
>
> Arenas, Pedro de, Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y  
> mexicana, facs?mil, estudio de Ascensi?n Hern?ndez de Le?n- 
> Portilla, M?xico, Instituto de Investigaciones Filol?gicas/ 
> Instituto de Investigaciones Hist?ricas, Universidad Nacional  
> Aut?noma de M?xico, 1982.
>
> Saludos,
>
> David
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From david_becraft at hotmail.com  Fri Jun  1 18:13:57 2007
From: david_becraft at hotmail.com (David Becraft)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 11:13:57 -0700
Subject: Saludos en n=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E1huatl?=
In-Reply-To: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAFSuI922EoRPiKSCadztChvCgAAAEAAAAH8uq3miIKVKrso5x8ctFjYBAAAAAA==@prodigy.net.mx>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.111357.0700.DAVIDBECRAFT@HOTMAIL.COM>

Estimado David Wright

There are in some regions of Guerrero formal salutations in which the words 
"good" are added as part of the salutation.  In the ethnographic interviews 
I have had with informants of Nahuatl speech, I have been told of the 
following:
Kwalli tlaneshtli, "Good Morn"
kwalli tonalli, "good day"
kwalli teotlac, "good afternoon"
kwalli yowalli, "good evening/night"
keno tinemi, "what's up?/how's it going?/q-vole/ etc"
timota, "see you tomorrow/later"
sincerely,

Pancho


>From: David Wright <dcwright at prodigy.net.mx>
>To: "Nahuat-l (messages)" <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
>Subject: [Nahuat-l] Saludos en n?huatl
>Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 11:53:00 -0500
>
>Estimado Ra?l:
>
>En el "Vocabulario manual" de Pedro de Arenas (pp. 1 y 2) hay una secci?n
>sobre "PALABRAS DE SALUTACION" (pp. 1 y 2). Se trata de un libro de frases,
>escrito a principios del siglo XVII para espa?oles, para que pudieran 
>tratar
>con los indios. En varias partes se puede observar el maltrato verbal que
>sol?an recibir los indios por parte de los europeos. No hay nada parecido a
>"buenos d?as". Varios de los saludos tienen la palabra castellana "Dios",
>como la entrada que dice "Dios sea contigo--Ma Dios motlan motetztle". Otro
>es "como te va--quen tinemi". Hay m?s. Vale la pena consultar esta obra. 
>Hay
>dos ediciones modernas:
>
>Arenas, Pedro de, ?Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y 
>mexicana?,
>facs?mil de la ed. de 1611, en Obras cl?sicas sobre la lengua n?huatl, ed.
>digital, Ascensi?n Hern?ndez de Le?n-Portilla, compiladora, Madrid,
>Fundaci?n Hist?rica Tavera/Mapfre Mutualidad/Digibis, 1998.
>
>Arenas, Pedro de, Vocabulario manual de las lenguas castellana y mexicana,
>facs?mil, estudio de Ascensi?n Hern?ndez de Le?n-Portilla, M?xico, 
>Instituto
>de Investigaciones Filol?gicas/Instituto de Investigaciones Hist?ricas,
>Universidad Nacional Aut?noma de M?xico, 1982.
>
>Saludos,
>
>David


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From idiez at mac.com  Fri Jun  1 19:55:24 2007
From: idiez at mac.com (John Sullivan, Ph.D.)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 14:55:24 -0500
Subject: dictionary program
In-Reply-To: <20070601151037.GA20380@teuctli>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.145524.0500.IDIEZ@MAC.COM>

Listeros,
	I think I found what I needed. The Macintosh word processor, "Pages"  
has a search function called "Show Search". It opens up a side bar  
with an incremental search box at the top. As you type in letters it  
displays in the sidebar only those words in the document which  
include the letters you specify. Typing in "t, l, a, c, u, a, l, l,  
i" for example, will slowly narrow down the displayed words until  
only "tlacualli" is left in the list. But if you type in "c, u, a",  
for example, it shows all words containing that sequence of letters,  
irregardless of its position in the word. This is handy for locating  
occurrences of morphemes.
	Thanks to everyone for your suggestions.
John

John Sullivan, Ph.D.
Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua
Universidad Aut?noma de Zacatecas
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On Jun 1, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Joost Kremers wrote:

> Hi John,
>
>>    I am looking for a dictionary program/utility for Mac OSX that  
>> behaves
>>    like  the English dictionary program that comes with Mac OSX,  
>> but that
>>    will  let  me input data my own data. This program does a  
>> "progressive
>>    search":  if  I  type in the letter "a", a list of all words  
>> beginning
>>    with   "a"  appears.  Then,  if  I  type  the  letter  "b",   
>> the  list
>>    automatically  reduces  itself to all words beginning with  
>> "ab-, etc.,
>>    etc.  What is the technical term for this type of search  
>> behavior, and
>>    where can I find this kind of program?
>
> I have no idea if something like that is available at all. have you  
> tried
> searching Google?
>
> The kind of search you describe is often called "incremental search",
> though. There might be other words for it, but that's the one I  
> hear the
> most.
>
> -- 
> Joost Kremers, PhD
> University of Cologne
> Institute for German Language and Literature
> Albertus Magnus Platz
> 50923 Cologne, Germany
> Tel. +49 221 / 4703807
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From cberry at cine.net  Sat Jun  2 00:41:27 2007
From: cberry at cine.net (Craig Berry)
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:41:27 -0700
Subject: Saludos en n=?iso-8859-1?Q?=E1huatl?=
In-Reply-To: <BAY141-F952D306ADEB0D277E66D78B2C0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <FRI.1.JUN.2007.174127.0700.CBERRY@CINE.NET>

On 6/1/07, David Becraft <david_becraft at hotmail.com> wrote:
> kwalli teotlac, "good afternoon"

Is that teo- the divine/unusual/big modifier we were discussing a few
months ago?  Is tlac carrying the sense of nourishment?  So this is
perhaps the time of the "big meal"?  Excuse me if I'm far off the
mark...I'm just curious, and trying out my paltry but slowly growing
Nahuatl skills.

-- 
Craig Berry - http://www.cine.net/~cberry/
"The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom." - William Blake
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From silva171270 at prodigy.net.mx  Mon Jun 11 18:53:02 2007
From: silva171270 at prodigy.net.mx (Ignacio Silva)
Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:53:02 -0500
Subject: Buscando a Stephanie Wood.
Message-ID: <MON.11.JUN.2007.135302.0500.SILVA171270@PRODIGY.NET.MX>

Hola a todos,

estoy buscando a Stephanie Wood ya que los correos que le he enviado desde hace unas semanas han sido devueltos.

Mil gracias a todos.

Ignacio Silva:

isilva at herenciagrupocultural.com.mx


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From k_salmon at ipinc.net  Fri Jun 22 14:13:57 2007
From: k_salmon at ipinc.net (Kier Salmon)
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 07:13:57 -0700
Subject: Offering Flowers
Message-ID: <FRI.22.JUN.2007.071357.0700.KSALMON@IPINC.NET>

Hopefully some of the more senior members can answer this question.   
Some time ago I ran into a vague reference to a book called "Offering  
Flowers" by Jerome Rothenberg.  After months of effort I finally,  
with a lot of help tracked it down as the title of a book, 8 copies  
of which are on worldcat and none of which is allowed into the stream  
of ILL.
Some more help from a friend has turned up a single edition (and the  
information that it is a translation by Anderson and Dibble   
arrainged by Rothenberg) for sale (apparently only 350 were ever  
printed) at $110.
So the question is... what is this?  Is it just things extracted from  
the massive Florentine Codex by A&D or is it part of Bierhorsts  
"Cantares"?
University of Utah does not have anything listed, and I'd like some  
more knowledge before I spend that much money.  My goal is to be able  
to portray my early 16th century characters as Mexica (not Cuautemoc  
as Bonnie Prince Charlie) and to understand how they spoke and  
thought.  Will this book aid in this or is it more useful to pick up  
the Cantares?
Thanks for any help on this thorny problem.
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From sylvia at famsi.org  Tue Jun 26 21:33:47 2007
From: sylvia at famsi.org (sylvia at famsi.org)
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:33:47 -0400
Subject: New Grantee Reports/Informes--Traducciones en Espanol
Message-ID: <TUE.26.JUN.2007.173347.0400.>

Hello Mesoamericanists,

New grantee final reports at FAMSI website include the following:

Human Sacrifice and Mortuary Treatments in the Great Temple of
Tenochtitlan (2005)
by Ximena Chavez Balderas.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/05054/index.html

Bioarchaeological Investigation of the Ancient Population Structure of
Mayapan (2005)
by Stanley Serafin.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/05033/index.html

Regional Investigations at the Cupul Province Trading Center of Xuenkal:
Proyecto Arqueologico Xuenkal (2005)
by Traci Ardren.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/05064/index.html


Nuevo en el sitio web de FAMSI:
Informes de investigacion de concesionarios traducidos del Ingles
al Espanol:

Los Efectos del Urbanismo sobre la Salud y la Demografia de la Poblacion
Posclasica de Cholula, Puebla (2004)
por Meggan M. Bullock.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/03066es/index.html

El Fechamiento por Radiocarbono de Edificios Publicos y de Rasgos Rituales
en el Antiguo Valle de Oaxaca (2004)
por Joyce Marcus y Kent V. Flannery.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/03006es/index.html

La Cultura Olmeca: Libro de Texto para Universidades Rusas (2005)
por Andrei V. Tabarev.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/05040es/index.html

Canciones Nicachi: Textos Rituales Zapoteca y Conocimientos Rituales
Clasicos Posteriores en Oaxaca Colonial (2003)
por David Tavarez.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/02050es/index.html

El Formativo temprano y medio en San Lorenzo, Veracruz, Mexico (2001)
por Anthony A. Vega.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/00103es/index.html

Actividades de Uso de Plantas y de Silvicultura entre los Antiguos Mayas en
Tikal, Guatemala (2004)
por David L. Lentz.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/03048es/index.html

Pinturas de la Ceramica Maya: El Arte y la Carrera de M. Louise Baker (2004)
por Elin C. Danien.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/03029es/index.html

Produccion de Alfareria Especializada y Complejidad Social en el Formativo
Mixteca Alta (2004)
por Veronica Perez Rodriguez.
http://www.famsi.org/reports/03025es/index.html

Saludos,

Sylvia Perrine, Archivist
Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies, Inc.
http://www.famsi.org/index.html

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From mwswanton at yahoo.com  Fri Jun 29 03:49:27 2007
From: mwswanton at yahoo.com (Michael Swanton)
Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2007 20:49:27 -0700
Subject: Huiquipedia
Message-ID: <THU.28.JUN.2007.204927.0700.MWSWANTON@YAHOO.COM>

With the long vowels marked and everything...

http://nah.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch?ntli




       
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