Autonomous Indigenous People Who Speak Nahuatl]

Kier Salmon k_salmon at ipinc.net
Wed Mar 26 04:11:30 UTC 2008


Thank you for this information.  It is true that people in a certain  
area tend to be from specific groups.  One forges the way and then  
calls for all the ones who want to come from his pueblo; in turn, they  
bring familia and compadres so that different areas of America have  
populations from different areas of Meso-america with a salting of all  
the others.

On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Iván Pedroza wrote:

> I am currently working on a project in Xochitlan de Vicente Suarez  
> (Sierra Norte de Puebla), where 60 to 70% of the inhabitants are  
> Nahuatl speakers. Some people that I know have migrated to  
> Pennsylvania and South Carolina, and some have told me that there  
> are whole xochiteca and serrano families living there.
>
> I hope you find this useful. Hasta moztla,
>
> -- 
> Iván Pedroza
> Centro Latinoamericano de la Globalidad
>
> 2008/3/25, Messing, Jacqueline <jmessing at cas.usf.edu>:
> Listeros,
>
>
> There are many Nahuatl speaking people in the U.S., and as has been  
> suggested (earlier on in this digital conversation), many or most of  
> them are also speakers of Spanish.  I'm working on an article about  
> this at the moment, based on research in Tlaxcala, Mexico and the  
> northeast U.S.  I've interviewed people in Mexicano/Nahuatl speaking  
> communities in the state of Tlaxcala about their social networks in  
> the US (among other topics related to language use and ideology).   
> My research indicates that most speakers are in New York, New  
> England and LA county, with some scattered smaller communities in  
> Pennsylvania, Virginia and the Carolinas as well.
>
>
> Jacqueline Messing, Ph.D.
>
> Assistant Professor
>
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>
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> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Autonomous Indigenous People Who Speak  
> Nahuatl]
>
>
> Greetings,
>
>      I'm sorry to bring back a topic that may have been answered  
> already, but did anybody ever come up with some kind of reasoning  
> for this phenomenon that almost no Nahuatl speakers come to the  
> United States? I was a bilingual teacher in California for 33 years,  
> and I found the same situation in the schools as k_salmon at ipinc.net  
> observed. Many of my students were Zapotec, Mixtec, Tarasco, Mayan,  
> Huichol, and other language speakers, but never Nahuatl. I visit  
> open air markets in California and find the same groups among the  
> vendors and shoppers. So far there I have never come across a  
> Nahuatl speaker. Are they hiding in some specific areas maybe?
>      Some teacher friends in Coachella, CA tell me of a trailer park  
> in the community of Thermal where there are hundreds of Purépeches  
> (Tarascos). Could there be any such communities of Nahuas in  
> California or other states?
>
> Tlazo'camati,
> Henry Vasquez
>
> In a message dated 8/28/07 9:11:02 AM, k_salmon at ipinc.net writes:
>
>
> On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:05 AM, John F. Schwaller wrote:
> > The top ten indigenous groups were:
> >     Náhuatl        2,563,000
> >     Maya            1,490,000
> >     Zapoteco        785,000
> >     Mixteco           764,000
> >     Otomí               566,000
> >     Tzetzal            547,000
> >     Tzotzil              514,000
> >     Totonaca        410,000
> >     Mazateco       339,000
> >     Chol                274,000
>
>
> Looking at this strikes a question that has been in my mind.
> I work as a spanish english medical and legal interpreter.  In the
> course of the last 18 months I have run into many people speaking one
> of the mayan dialects, Yucatec and Quiche being the most common,
> Zapotec and Mixtec as well as a few who speak Cora and Tarascan (or
> was it Tarahumara or was it Huichol *NW mountain range*?).  But never
> have I found people who are bilingual spanish nahuatl.  I wondered if
> it was because most nahuatl speakers ARE bilingual and thus I don't
> know about it.  But people chat with me and I find out from names and
> in general conversation about where they've come from.  The other
> explanation that comes to mind is that the nahua don't want to come
> to the USA... but then, why would the maya come in such numbers?
> This is the rankest curiosity; since I am interested in learning to
> speak nahuatl, I've been paying attention and asking questions.  Does
> anybody have a hypothesis?
>
>
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