From schwallr at potsdam.edu  Wed Nov 19 16:46:14 2008
From: schwallr at potsdam.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:46:14 -0500
Subject: Lecture in Ciudad Victoria, Tamps.
Message-ID: <WED.19.NOV.2008.114614.0500.SCHWALLR@POTSDAM.EDU>

Contacto: Gerardo Lara Cisneros: glc at servidor.unam.mx
........................

La Universidad Autónoma de Tamaulipas a través del Cuerpo Académico de
Historia e Historiografía Regional, el Instituto de Investigaciones
Históricas, la Unidad Académica Multidisciplinaria de Ciencias, Eduación y
Humanidades y Promep UAT invitan a la conferencia:

"La cosmogonía nahua: las versiones prehispánicas o tradicionales y su
transformación en fábula por el pensamiento cristiano en el primer siglo del
periodo colonial"

que impartirá el
Dr. Eduardo Natalino dos Santos, CEMA: Universidad de Sao Paulo, Brasil.

Lunes 24 de noviembre a las 17 hrs en el Auditorio de la Unidad Académica
Multidisciplinaria de Ciencias, Educación y Humanidades en Ciudad Victoria,
Tamaulipas. 

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From HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com  Fri Nov 21 09:54:46 2008
From: HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com (HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:54:46 EST
Subject: Request from TRIBU, Mexico City
Message-ID: <FRI.21.NOV.2008.045446.EST.>

Greetings,

     For those of you who are acquainted with the musical group TRIBU from 
Mexico City, their leader Agustín Pimentel sent a message requesting prayers for 
their member Alejandro Mendez. Alejandro recently suffered some kind of 
stroke. Agustín described it as brain infarct ("infarto cerebral", in Spanish). 
Alejandro is hospitalized in the "Hospital de Neuroligía de Tlalpan" (the Tlalpan 
Neurolgical Hospital). Agustín said that he is better but still hospitalized 
while they run tests to try to determine the cause of the episode and to learn 
how to prevent a repeat.
     TRIBU is comprised of four members, outstanding musicians Agustín 
Pimentel, Alejandro Méndez, his brother David Méndez, and Ramiro Ramírez. They 
specialize in original music played on authentic Pre-Columbian instruments which 
they have studied and recreated with amazing detail. They sing parts of the 
musical pieces, sometimes in Nahuatl and sometimes in Spanish. They have degrees 
in indigenous studies, music, languages, anthropology, and more. They have 
recorded about 20 CDs over the course of 25 years. They sometimes travel with 
family members who dance to some of the musical pieces. They have scheduled to 
perform in Paris, France in the next few weeks. However, Alejandro most likely 
will not be able to accompany them.
     The members of Tribu are really nice, humble, very friendly guys. Muy 
buena gente.   I hope that Alejandro recovers quickly and completely.

                                                                      Many 
Blessings,
                                                                      Henry 
Vasquez


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From schwallr at potsdam.edu  Thu Nov 27 02:00:32 2008
From: schwallr at potsdam.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:00:32 -0500
Subject: Dictionary entries
Message-ID: <WED.26.NOV.2008.210032.0500.SCHWALLR@POTSDAM.EDU>

From:   "John Sullivan, Ph.D." <idiez at me.com>
Date:   Wed, November 26, 2008


Compañeros,
        A fun thing happened today. Delfina was sitting next to the window
today working on our dictionary (there's no indoor heating or
insulation in Zacatecas, so it's a good idea to sit in the sun when
it's cold), and she asked if the following words were already in the
dictionary:
1. hui:hui:ca, nic. "to go ahead and take something", as in s.o. who
can't find exactly what they want at the market, so they go ahead and
buy something else.
2. ca:ca:hua, nic. "to return the unused portion of something you
bought", as in s.o. who buys three bags of cement, only uses two, and
takes the last one back for a refund.
        I recognized that we were dealing with reduplication with a long
vowel, but my experience with Andrews only offered "intensity, with
the implication of smooth continuity in repeated performance of an
action, event, process, etc. The emphasis is on interconnectedness or
uniformity, involving a single entity, occasion, or place in related
or continuous repetitions or else several entities in similar
performances (2003: 229)." I had previously seen a good example of
what Andrews is describing in Modern Huastecan Nahuatl: toca, nic. "to
follow s.o." > to:toca, nic. "to pursue s.o. (to follow s.o.
intensely)", but these new examples were not quite in line. Then the
student with whom I was working said, "Oh, what about
"nicma:maquilih", "I went ahead and hit him"; or "xima:ma:lti", " go
ahead and take a bath" [Here the "m(o)-" is fused to the verb stem].
And then all kinds of examples started popping up. At that point I
realized that this would probably add another two or three thousand
verb entries to our dictionary. We had been documenting reduplication
with short vowel and glottal stop, and the few reduplications with
long vowel which carry the idea of intensity, but this new structure
seems to be much more prevalent.
        Anyway, that's how you say "to go ahead and do something" in Modern
Huastecan Nahuatl. Its opposite, "not do s.t. after all, or to intend
to do s.t. but not follow through" is formed using "-zquia", known in
Older Nahuatl as the conditional tense. So, for example you would have:

1. "xihui:huito:ni", "go ahead and jump" (from "huito:ni", "to jump"
2. "tihuito:nizquiah", "we didn't jump after all"

3. "nitla:tlacuahqui", "I went ahead and ate" (from "tlacua:", "to
eat" [with a fused tla-]"
4. "intlacua:zquiah", "You (pl.) didn't eat after all".

John

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From schwallr at potsdam.edu  Wed Nov 19 16:46:14 2008
From: schwallr at potsdam.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2008 11:46:14 -0500
Subject: Lecture in Ciudad Victoria, Tamps.
Message-ID: <WED.19.NOV.2008.114614.0500.SCHWALLR@POTSDAM.EDU>

Contacto: Gerardo Lara Cisneros: glc at servidor.unam.mx
........................

La Universidad Aut?noma de Tamaulipas a trav?s del Cuerpo Acad?mico de
Historia e Historiograf?a Regional, el Instituto de Investigaciones
Hist?ricas, la Unidad Acad?mica Multidisciplinaria de Ciencias, Eduaci?n y
Humanidades y Promep UAT invitan a la conferencia:

"La cosmogon?a nahua: las versiones prehisp?nicas o tradicionales y su
transformaci?n en f?bula por el pensamiento cristiano en el primer siglo del
periodo colonial"

que impartir? el
Dr. Eduardo Natalino dos Santos, CEMA: Universidad de Sao Paulo, Brasil.

Lunes 24 de noviembre a las 17 hrs en el Auditorio de la Unidad Acad?mica
Multidisciplinaria de Ciencias, Educaci?n y Humanidades en Ciudad Victoria,
Tamaulipas. 

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From HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com  Fri Nov 21 09:54:46 2008
From: HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com (HJVsqzIMIS at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:54:46 EST
Subject: Request from TRIBU, Mexico City
Message-ID: <FRI.21.NOV.2008.045446.EST.>

Greetings,

     For those of you who are acquainted with the musical group TRIBU from 
Mexico City, their leader Agust?n Pimentel sent a message requesting prayers for 
their member Alejandro Mendez. Alejandro recently suffered some kind of 
stroke. Agust?n described it as brain infarct ("infarto cerebral", in Spanish). 
Alejandro is hospitalized in the "Hospital de Neurolig?a de Tlalpan" (the Tlalpan 
Neurolgical Hospital). Agust?n said that he is better but still hospitalized 
while they run tests to try to determine the cause of the episode and to learn 
how to prevent a repeat.
     TRIBU is comprised of four members, outstanding musicians Agust?n 
Pimentel, Alejandro M?ndez, his brother David M?ndez, and Ramiro Ram?rez. They 
specialize in original music played on authentic Pre-Columbian instruments which 
they have studied and recreated with amazing detail. They sing parts of the 
musical pieces, sometimes in Nahuatl and sometimes in Spanish. They have degrees 
in indigenous studies, music, languages, anthropology, and more. They have 
recorded about 20 CDs over the course of 25 years. They sometimes travel with 
family members who dance to some of the musical pieces. They have scheduled to 
perform in Paris, France in the next few weeks. However, Alejandro most likely 
will not be able to accompany them.
     The members of Tribu are really nice, humble, very friendly guys. Muy 
buena gente.   I hope that Alejandro recovers quickly and completely.

                                                                      Many 
Blessings,
                                                                      Henry 
Vasquez


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From schwallr at potsdam.edu  Thu Nov 27 02:00:32 2008
From: schwallr at potsdam.edu (John F. Schwaller)
Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 21:00:32 -0500
Subject: Dictionary entries
Message-ID: <WED.26.NOV.2008.210032.0500.SCHWALLR@POTSDAM.EDU>

From:   "John Sullivan, Ph.D." <idiez at me.com>
Date:   Wed, November 26, 2008


Compa?eros,
        A fun thing happened today. Delfina was sitting next to the window
today working on our dictionary (there's no indoor heating or
insulation in Zacatecas, so it's a good idea to sit in the sun when
it's cold), and she asked if the following words were already in the
dictionary:
1. hui:hui:ca, nic. "to go ahead and take something", as in s.o. who
can't find exactly what they want at the market, so they go ahead and
buy something else.
2. ca:ca:hua, nic. "to return the unused portion of something you
bought", as in s.o. who buys three bags of cement, only uses two, and
takes the last one back for a refund.
        I recognized that we were dealing with reduplication with a long
vowel, but my experience with Andrews only offered "intensity, with
the implication of smooth continuity in repeated performance of an
action, event, process, etc. The emphasis is on interconnectedness or
uniformity, involving a single entity, occasion, or place in related
or continuous repetitions or else several entities in similar
performances (2003: 229)." I had previously seen a good example of
what Andrews is describing in Modern Huastecan Nahuatl: toca, nic. "to
follow s.o." > to:toca, nic. "to pursue s.o. (to follow s.o.
intensely)", but these new examples were not quite in line. Then the
student with whom I was working said, "Oh, what about
"nicma:maquilih", "I went ahead and hit him"; or "xima:ma:lti", " go
ahead and take a bath" [Here the "m(o)-" is fused to the verb stem].
And then all kinds of examples started popping up. At that point I
realized that this would probably add another two or three thousand
verb entries to our dictionary. We had been documenting reduplication
with short vowel and glottal stop, and the few reduplications with
long vowel which carry the idea of intensity, but this new structure
seems to be much more prevalent.
        Anyway, that's how you say "to go ahead and do something" in Modern
Huastecan Nahuatl. Its opposite, "not do s.t. after all, or to intend
to do s.t. but not follow through" is formed using "-zquia", known in
Older Nahuatl as the conditional tense. So, for example you would have:

1. "xihui:huito:ni", "go ahead and jump" (from "huito:ni", "to jump"
2. "tihuito:nizquiah", "we didn't jump after all"

3. "nitla:tlacuahqui", "I went ahead and ate" (from "tlacua:", "to
eat" [with a fused tla-]"
4. "intlacua:zquiah", "You (pl.) didn't eat after all".

John

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