hoary spoonbill

[Michel Oudijk]

Dear friends,

 

I don't know much about birds but according to the people from Quauhquechollan the Quechollin looks like they painted it in their lienzo (see the attached photo or Florine Asselbergs' book about the lienzo). Maybe one of you bird watchers can identified it this way. Doesn't look like a flamenco to me though.

 

Abrazo,

 

Michel
 

 
> From: dcwright at prodigy.net.mx
> To: schwallr at potsdam.edu
> Date: Mon, 7 Dec 2009 10:23:34 -0600
> CC: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] hoary spoonbill
> 
> Thanks, Fritz.
> 
> Sebastian Covarrubias' entry under "flamenco", in his dictionary of 1611, is
> interesting.
> 
> Cobarruvias Orozco, Sebastián, “Tesoro de la lengua castellana o española”,
> facsímil de la ed. de 1611, en Fondo Antiguo, Biblioteca, Universidad de
> Sevilla
> (http://fondosdigitales.us.es/fondos/libros/765/16/tesoro-de-la-lengua-caste
> llana-o-espanola/; acceso: 7 dic. 2009).
> 
> It's good to have a good facsimile edition of the first edition on line; I
> found it today for the first time. The second edition has been available in
> the Biblioteca Virtual Miguel de Cervantes for a few years. This is the best
> work for getting closer to the meanings of Spanish words in the early
> colonial texts of New Spain.
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: John F. Schwaller [mailto:schwallr at potsdam.edu] 
> Enviado el: domingo, 06 de diciembre de 2009 10:02 p.m.
> Para: David Wright
> CC: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> Asunto: Re: [Nahuat-l] hoary spoonbill
> 
> David Wright asked:
> >
> >
> > 1. Could the flamingo identification of the word quecholli come from the
> > fact that Spaniards of the early colonial period called the roseate
> > spoonbill "ave flamenca"? (The only documented case of this that I have is
> > the Torquemada quote.)
> >
> >
> 
> The identification is quite common, i know in modern times, and I would
> suppose earlier too. Throughout the Gulf and Caribbean the Roseate
> Spoonbill was commonly called a Flamingo. My wife and I are amateur bird
> watchers and lived in Florida for 14 years. Spoonbills are always called
> Flamingos by locals, until you actually see a Flamingo. They are both
> brilliant pink, but structurally quite different.
> 
> -- 
> John F. Schwaller
> President,
> SUNY Potsdam
> 44 Pierrepont Ave.
> Potsdam, NY 13676
> schwallr at potsdam.edu
> 
> 
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