mexicah tiahui?

Michael McCafferty mmccaffe at indiana.edu
Wed Jul 15 15:13:52 UTC 2009


Tlaxtlahui, Kenneth, ihuan Henry.


Yes, Andrews II calls "yahui" a modern dialect form that is 
"substandard," or something to that effect.

And, yes, one would expect a "Ma" in Nahuatl if the verb is supposed to 
translate the Spanish imperative "Vamos!"

michael







Quoting Kenneth Thomas <kthomas at alumni.williams.edu>:

> To (I hope!) clarify Henry's message:
>> "We are going"
>>
>> plural subject pronoun ti-  + the verb "yauh" -> tiyahuih
>
> Exactly. This is probably one of the more common forms in modern
> dialects. "Classical" Nahuatl commonly (?) has /tihuih/ "we are
> going", maybe that's why it wasn't so readily recognizable.
>
> It's a good example of simplified Nahuatl that is used as an identity
> token by concheros and danzantes, because with the alleged translation
> "adelante!" you would rather expect an optative form in the sense
> "vamos!" (/ma tihuiyah/ or related forms).
>
> Ma niwîya!
> Henry K
>
> On Wed, Jul 15, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Michael McCafferty
> <mmccaffe at indiana.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Quoting Henry Kammler <h.kammler at em.uni-frankfurt.de>:
>>
>> > ?·¾??§??¶¥????§???¶??¨n? 1i???¢³?¶??/¨ ????i¨??k>? ¦¡???©^r?
>> > V¬²' ????j'?/¾?«>?( ?·¾? ¦k&??¶??/¢·?{~²
>> «y§b?/«y??,?W?¶???je{??¦X???¨nj?¶ ­??? ¢u??? ??( ?®?>jw~u©?³?«¬{?
>> ­??W y?­©?b¢ ¾i?j{^?
>> > .??j?¯??©?¶+??§??±?©¨³??? ?zV­y?¢¹¬1¯§? ? ?? ?¶_¦j)b? ¥??j
>> ?¶Yb²?jk"¢¸!¶??©¬???¢?f§?)??­
>>
>> Henry Kammler's message is written in a character script my computer
>> can't decipher, so I can't comment. Hopefully, the following is not
>> redundant.
>>
>> A couple of additional ideas about "tiahui".
>>
>> It's a combination of two verbs: /ya:/ and /hui/, which exist
>> independently, seeminly most often with directional prefixes.
>>
>> For example: anhualhuih 'you all come'
>>
>> Michael
>>
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