question on Spanish/Nahuatl "language"

[Kier Salmon]

No, but I was surprised to find how many intrusions of Nahuatl into  
Spanish existed... and I grew up in Mexico fully english/spanish  
bilingual.  It wasn't until I studied Nahuatl with John Sullivan last  
summer that I found out just how many of them there were.  It was  
quite an education for somebody who thought she was very conversant  
with spanish/castillian.
But then, those of us who went through the public school system in  
Mexico have a number of ... *interesting*... conceptions about Mexico  
and her history and amalgamation.


On May 5, 2009, at 10:14 AM, John F. Schwaller wrote:

> If I remember correctly, and Joe Campbell can remind me, Spanish  
> pidgins are generally known as "ladino."  One of the most famous is  
> the Ladino used by Sephardic Jews who fled the Iberian Peninsula  
> following the 1492 expulsion.
>
> In various documents from the 17th and 18th centuries there are  
> increasing intrusions of Spanish words into Nahuatl.  Examples can  
> be found in my guide to Nahuatl manuscripts in US repositories.   
> Lockhart does trace the three periods of language deformation, based  
> on work he and Frances Karttunen did.  But as to the creation of a  
> real amalgam of Spanish and Nahuatl, I'm not aware of any.
>
>
>
> Jesse Lovegren wrote:
>>
>> Hi Sharon
>>
>>   If you haven't already done this, you might be interested in  
>> reading in Pidgin & Creole linguistics and in language contact.   
>> English and French-based creoles sprung up frequently through  
>> colonial-era contact, but Spanish-based creoles are rare.  In the  
>> case of Spanish, the situation is more like a koiné, where  
>> proficient bilinguals are the ones initially introducing changes,  
>> and the new variety is formed gradually.  As for Nahuatl/Spanish, I  
>> am not familiar with literature on present-day contact between  
>> these two, but you will find a discussion of how Nahuatl changed  
>> under influence from Spanish in Lockhart's "The Nahuas after  
>> Conquest"
>>
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