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Michael McCafferty mmccaffe at indiana.edu
Thu Jun 10 00:50:04 UTC 2010


I've wondered about the "small" association with this noun suffix -in. 
Is this true or just folklore? And some of -in words are variable, e.g. 
cihtli/cihtin.

Fish are not necessarily small. Wind isn't small.

Michael.


Quoting MICC2 <micc2 at cox.net>:

> I have seen both citalli and citallin as star......
>
> the -   "in" ending.... I have heard (maybe it is wishful theorizing on
> someone's part???!)....
> denotes something small that has inherent movement (from ollin??):
> michin,
> quimichin
> citlalin
>
> Axmicmati!
>
>
> On another note:  some of my Chicano gente write Chicano  (CHI-Kan-o) as
> Xicano  .... yet they write Xitalli  (Zi-tal-li)...  wouldn't that be...
> using the same orthography.... (Zi-Kan-o)?
>
> Maybe we should write Nahuatl in Esperanto!!!!
>
> Mario
>
> I live for reasoned, enlightened spirituality:
>
> "Tlacecelilli", tranquilidad, paz
>
>
> Mario E. Aguilar, PhD
> www.mexicayotl.net
>
>
>
> On 6/9/2010 4:08 AM, Michael McCafferty wrote:
>> Irene,
>>
>> Note that Mario in the first example has a pronunciation of the name
>> that reflects a tl-dialect of Nahuatl whereas the second example
>> reflects a t-dialect of Nahuatl.
>>
>> The name noted does not have the final -n of the term for 'star'.
>> Without that /n/, the name sounds to me like "ground, earth, land' to
>> me. something-tlalli.
>> But that's the way it goes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Michael
>>
>>
>> Quoting MICC2<micc2 at cox.net>:
>>
>>
>>> it SHOULD be zitlalli or citalli, but many Chicanos ,  for the sake
>>> of being cool, have written it Xitlalli, even though that would
>>>   be said as SHI-tlal -li, which is not correct........
>>>
>>> Mario
>>>
>>> I live for reasoned, enlightened spirituality:
>>>
>>> "Tlacecelilli", tranquilidad, paz
>>>
>>>
>>> Mario E. Aguilar, PhD
>>> www.mexicayotl.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/7/2010 11:29 AM, Irene Padilla wrote:
>>>
>>>> Good Morning Listeros
>>>> I'm in need of some help. I know this might be unusual but i am
>>>> looking for a Nahua name for a lil' girl
>>>>
>>>> Is it CITLALI or XITLALLI?
>>>> What is the correct pronunciation? and meaning? star?
>>>> Thank you all for the quick lesson
>>>> ~Irene
>>>>
>>>>
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