re maquilia?

[Frances Karttunen]

Jim Lockhart and I hypothesized that maquilia was a calque on Spanish  
dar palos, identifiying maca 'to give' with Spanish dar.

Fran


On Nov 10, 2010, at 11:23 AM, John Sullivan wrote:

> Magnus, Galen and Michael,
> 	I can't find maquilia in any of the standard Classical  
> dictionaries, so it's probably from the Spanish. Ma:itl+aqui would  
> be nice except for the fact that the first "a" in maquilia isn't  
> long. I guess the only strange thing is how the native speakers got  
> their heads around the idea of a triple object verb, maquilia,  
> being used to refer to a single object action.
> John
>
> On Nov 10, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Magnus Pharao Hansen wrote:
>
>> Isn't it just the applicative of "maca" "give"?
>>
>> In Hueyapan Nahuatl maca means both to hit and to give (as it does  
>> also in Spanish)  when it is made applicative it further mimics  
>> the spanish construction where the object of a hitting action is  
>> not a direct object but a dative.
>>
>>
>> Magnus
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: John Sullivan <idiez at me.com>
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>> Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 08:48:36 -0600
>> Subject: [Nahuat-l] maquilia
>> Piyali notequixpoyohuan,
>> 	Does anybody have any ideas about how the word "maquilia," "to  
>> hit s.o., an animal or s.t." is constructed?
>> John
>>
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