the eagle, the cactus, the stone, sacred warfare - yes, but the snake...?

Kay Read kay.a.read at gmail.com
Tue Jan 18 22:54:26 UTC 2011


Hello,

I have used a delightful article in my 100-level undergraduate class that
treats this image as an important myth and traces its roots from whatever
beginnings we know and many of its changes all the way to the present.  It
is very accessible and is useful because it gets away from some idea of
for-all-time "truth" about these images and stories that change so naturally
anyway.  It is:

Alfred Lopez-Austin
"The Miracle of the Eagle and the Cactus"

In *The Rabbit on the Face of the Moon:  Mythology in the Mesoamerican
Tradition.*  Translated by Bernard Ortiz de Montellano and Thelma Ortiz de
Montellano, UT:  University of Utah Press, 1999:  51-60

Hope this helps,

Kay Read

On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 1:49 PM, Ian Mursell <Ian.Mursell at btinternet.com>wrote:

> Dear Listeros,
>
> We have been intrigued by a question our teaching team recently received
> concerning the presence or absence of the snake in the original foundation
> account and emblem of Tenochtitlan, and we've tried to highlight the
> evidence for and against, for a general audience, on our educational
> website.  You can see the end result here -
>
> http://www.mexicolore.co.uk/index.php?one=azt&two=wus&tab=aus&id=47
>
> It strikes us that there's very little information on this subject 'out
> there' for students to grapple with.  If we're wrong, please correct us.
>  In
> any case, we would be grateful if any of you could take a few minutes to
> read our modest attempt to 'state the case' on this fascinating question
> and
> to add your contributions to the debate (forgive me if this has come up
> before as a thread)...
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Ian
>
> Ian Mursell
>
> MirandaNet Fellow, Institute of Education, London University
>
> Director, 'Mexicolore'
> 28 Warriner Gardens
> London SW11 4EB, U.K.
> Tel: +44 (0) 20 7622 9577
> Fax: +44 (0) 20 7498 0173
> www.aztecs.org
> Ian.Mursell at btinternet.com
> info at mexicolore.co.uk
>
> 1980-2011: 31 years of bringing Mexico and the Mexica/Aztecs to life in
> over
> 2,000 schools and museums throughout England. Team visits, online teaching
> resources and services, live interactive videoconferencing sessions, and
> much more - all from Mexicolore, the 'highly successful teaching team'
> (British Museum Education Service)
>
>
>
>
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