Nahuatl Digest, Vol 261, Issue 3

[Magnus Pharao Hansen]

In Hueyapan all short a's become o before w - that's mentioned in
the written version of the paper I gave at Yale. Thats how I can see that
the final h's actually come frome a previous w and only turned into h after
the a>o change.

also don't for get the word icpalli "seat" which I think is more related to
the -cpa(c) "on-top-of-ness" relational noun than i:cpatl.

best,
Magnus

On 20 May 2012 13:00, <nahuatl-request at lists.famsi.org> wrote:

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> To: IDIEZ <idiez at me.com>
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> Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 11:08:37 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] icpatl
> John,
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>  Are there other examples of /a/ becoming [o] before /w/?  The older stage
> of the language has variability of  a/e, but I haven't found any case of
> a/o.
> ...not doubting, just asking.
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> Joe
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> Quoting IDIEZ <idiez at me.com>:
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>  Piyali notequixpoyohuan,
>>        Supposedly there are two icpatl morphemes. I:cpatl, with the long
>> "i" is "cord or thread" and the other is the root of the relational
>> word "-icpac". I haven't seen the root used in other words in
>> Classical sources, but in Modern Huastecan Nahuatl, we have,
>> "icpohuia, nic." "to carry s.t. on top of one's head". (Also seen as
>> "tlacpohuia"; it would be attractive to think that there is only one
>> morpheme, cord/thread, since woman actually carry the load on a
>> doughnut shaped support made by winding up cloth. However, the fact
>> that the "i" of "icpatl" elides in "tlacpohuia" means the root can't
>> be "i:cpatl", "cord".) This is obviously from "icpa(tl)" and the
>> "-huia" applicative verb-forming morpheme. The "a" of "icpa-" becomes
>> "o" before the "hu-" of "-huia". Anyway, this gives us "icpohuia",
>> "to use the top of one's head with respect to the object of the
>> verb." Has anyone seen this "icpatl" morpheme used in any words
>> besides "icpohuia", "icpac" and their derivatives?
>> John
>>
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