Modern Nahuatl data needed

Michael McCafferty mmccaffe at indiana.edu
Tue Oct 16 11:35:28 UTC 2012


Nice. Thanks for sharing this, Tomas.

Michael


Quoting Tomas Amando Amaya Aquino <t_amaya at megared.net.mx>:

> Sasaki san / Sasakatzin
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> Fron the nahuatl of Cuetzalan:
> Example 1
> "You will be leader" --> Titayecanque tiyezqui
> "I was rich" --> Nitomineh nicatca
> Example 2
> You will become leader --> Titayecanque timochihuaz
> Example 3
> Ahmo ximochoquili yn tehuantzin, in cachi cualli ma timihtotican
> (Do not cry please, let us dance, it is better!)
> Example 4
> You are a real priest --> Tinelli (yn) titeopixcat
> Here you could have several combinations:
> Nelli in titeopixcat --> really you are a priest
> In nelli yn titeopixcat --> it is true that you are a priest
> Yn nelly in titeopixcat --> what ist true is that you are a priest.
> Just to make you think. And I hope I have helped you.
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> Tomas Amaya
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> 2012/10/9 SASAKI Mitsuya <hawatari21centuries at gmail.com>
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>> Nocnihuantzitzine,
>>
>> I am currently working on the Classical Nahuatl "subject" marking on
>> non-predicate nouns, and desperately need the comparable data from modern
>> Nahuatl dialects.
>>
>> I'd really appreciate it if you'd show me if the Nahuatl dialect(s) you
>> are working on has 1st- or 2nd-person subject marking (obligatory or
>> optional) on nouns in the following four environments:
>>
>> (1) Predicate of non-present (past/future) copular sentences.
>>  CN ex. [a] TI-tla'toa:ni tiyez
>>         "You will be the king."
>>         [b] NI-coco:cahua' nicatca
>>         "I was a rich person."
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>> (2) Resultative complement of "become" etc.
>>  CN ex. [c] TI-piltzintli ti-mochi:hua
>>         "You become a child."
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>> (3) Subject or object of a verb.
>>  CN ex. [d] ninocho:quilia in N-amoko:l
>>         "I, your grandfather, lament"
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>> (4) Adjective + noun construction.
>>  CN ex. [e] TI-nelli TI-sacerdote
>>         "You who are a real priest"
>>
>> For example, according to Tuggy, Tetelcingo Nahuatl seems to preserve most
>> of those obligatory nominal "subject" person markings.
>> Michoacan Nahuatl, on the other hand, seems to have lost the "subject"
>> marking on non-predicate nouns.
>> Most published grammatical works don't provide enough information as to
>> those phenomena anyway.
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>> Are those nominal person markings obligatory, optional, or impossible in
>> the Nahuatl dialect(s) you are working on?
>>
>> Any positive or negative information will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Cencah tlazohcamati,
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>> Mitsuya Sasaki
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>> Dept. of Linguistics, University of Tokyo
>> hawatari21centuries at gmail.com
>> 1625659743 at mail.ecc.u-tokyo.**ac.jp <1625659743 at mail.ecc.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
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