Nahuatl Digest, Vol 319, Issue 2

Magnus Pharao Hansen magnuspharao at gmail.com
Wed Dec 4 19:05:05 UTC 2013


No, John, -t- is not the only source of h in modern Nahuatl.



From: John Sullivan <idiez at me.com>
To: Mccafferty Michael <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>
Cc: list nahuatl discussion <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 18:19:10 -0600
Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 318, Issue 1
Michael,
        Yes, but not if the origin of -oa is -iwa. For -oa to go to -oh in
the preterite its origina would have to be -ota, with the -ta being either
a berber or a valence-adder.
John


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> Date: Tue, 03 Dec 2013 18:19:10 -0600
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 318, Issue 1
> Michael,
>         Yes, but not if the origin of -oa is -iwa. For -oa to go to -oh in
> the preterite its origina would have to be -ota, with the -ta being either
> a berber or a valence-adder.
> John
>
> On Dec 3, 2013, at 6:22, Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Uh...that's what verbs ending in -oa do.
> >
> >
> > Quoting John Sullivan <idiez at me.com>:
> >
> >> Magnus,
> >>      First of all, do you or anyone on the list have a .pdf of Canger's
> >> book, or know where I can download it?
> >>      Now for my question. If the -oa verber originates as -iwa, why does
> >> the preterite forms reduce to -oh?
> >> Best,
> >> John
> >>
> >> On Nov 22, 2013, at 14:26, Magnus Pharao Hansen
> >> <magnuspharao at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi John,
> >>>
> >>> As for -oa, Canger's 1980 book "Five Studies of Nahuatl Verbs in
> >>> -oa" studies the history of this form in detail. What is now /oa/
> >>> comes originally from verbs in -iwa, where the iw became o. The use
> >>> of the -oa as a general verbalizing ending was then created by
> >>> analogy with the new verbforms, that is why it doesn't "look like a
> >>> Nahuatl morpheme".
> >>>
> >>> best,
> >>> Magnus
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Magnus Pharao Hansen
> >>> PhD. candidate
> >>> Department of Anthropology
> >>>
> >>> Brown University
> >>> 128 Hope St.
> >>> Providence, RI 02906
> >>>
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