Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 5

Jacinto Acatecatl tekuani at hotmail.es
Tue Sep 24 21:44:52 UTC 2013


1, Pero no le gustan los animales: pampa amo kipaktia tekuanimeh

2. Aunque tenemos un perro: tikpia se itzcuitle(i)/ chichi.

3. El perro es de mi hija: itzcuintle iyaxkah no takóh/ chichi i axkah no ichpokatl, este último es para referisre a una hija adolecente.


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> 
>  En realidad quiero que me digan como se escriben esas frases en Nahuatl.
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>  
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> juan Vazquez
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> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:22:58 -0400 (EDT)
> From: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
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> Subject: [Nahuat-l] Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl:
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> 
>  
> 
>  1,  Pero no le gustan los animales
> 
> 2.  Aunque tenemos un perro
> 
> 3.  El perro es de mi hija
> 
> 
> Mah cualli ohtli
> 
> juan Vazquez
> juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 15:40:03 -0400
> From: Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>
> To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl:
> Message-ID: <20130920154003.sdw5mma6ssoc8s8c at webmail.iu.edu>
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> Juan:
> 
> ¿De que habla usted?
> 
> ¿Quiere usted que alguien traduce estas frases en español para usted?
> 
> Por favor, explique sus palabras misteriosas.
> 
> Gracias,
> 
> Michael
> 
> Quoting juanvazquezvaz at aol.com:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > 1,  Pero no le gustan los animales
> >
> > 2.  Aunque tenemos un perro
> >
> > 3.  El perro es de mi hija
> >
> >
> > Mah cualli ohtli
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 15:55:46 -0400
> From: Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>
> To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl:
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> Quoting juanvazquezvaz at aol.com:
> 
> >
> >
> >
> > 1,  Pero no le gustan los animales
> 
> Auh (Yeceh) ahmo tictlazohtla/ticcualitta yolcatl
> >
> > 2.  Aunque tenemos un perro
> 
> Immaneleh ticpiyah chichi
> 
> > 3.  El perro es de mi hija
> 
> nohueltiuh ichichi
> 
> >
> >
> > Mah cualli ohtli
> >
> 
> ihuan tehhuatl
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:37:40 -0400
> From: Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>
> To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl:
> Message-ID: <20130920163740.3ydz39k7wwckkg0w at webmail.iu.edu>
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> An off-list message to me made me realize that I didn't explain request 
> from Juan. What I meant to say in my ahcualli Castellano was, why was a 
> Nahuatl/Spanish speaker asking the list how to translate these things?
> 
> I was interested in the experiment he was conducting, whatever it may be.
> 
> :)
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> Quoting Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>:
> 
> > Juan:
> >
> > ¿De que habla usted?
> >
> > ¿Quiere usted que alguien traduce estas frases en español para usted?
> >
> > Por favor, explique sus palabras misteriosas.
> >
> > Gracias,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Quoting juanvazquezvaz at aol.com:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1,  Pero no le gustan los animales
> >>
> >> 2.  Aunque tenemos un perro
> >>
> >> 3.  El perro es de mi hija
> >>
> >>
> >> Mah cualli ohtli
> >>
> >> juan Vazquez
> >> juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Nahuatl mailing list
> >> Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:16:55 -0400
> From: Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>
> To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl:
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> Mi espanol no es bueno.
> 
> 
> 
> It just occurred to me that "hija" daughter! (Fr. fille) ...not "sister"...
> 
> nohueltiuh is 'my (older) sister'
> 
> nochpochtzin is 'my daughter'  (the -chtz- collision becomes tz)
> 
> so
> 
> 
> nochpochtzin ichichi
> 
> 
> Mille regrets,
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>:
> 
> > Quoting juanvazquezvaz at aol.com:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1,  Pero no le gustan los animales
> >
> > Auh (Yeceh) ahmo tictlazohtla/ticcualitta yolcatl
> >>
> >> 2.  Aunque tenemos un perro
> >
> > Immaneleh ticpiyah chichi
> >
> >> 3.  El perro es de mi hija
> >
> > nohueltiuh ichichi
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Mah cualli ohtli
> >>
> >
> > ihuan tehhuatl
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >> juan Vazquez
> >> juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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> >> Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
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> >
> >
> >
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> Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:30:56 -0400 (EDT)
> From: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
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> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 3
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> In the statement:  "Nochi     in    tequitl,      zan         yeh     icel    oquichihuaya"
>  
>                             "Todo el trabajo                           ella   sola   lo hacia"
> 
> What is the purpose of  the word     ZAN?
> 
> Tlazocamati
> 
>  
> 
> juan Vazquez
> juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
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>  
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>  
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> Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:04:31 -0400 (EDT)
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> thank you
>  
> 
>  
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> juan Vazquez
> juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
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>  
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>    2. Re: pregunta (John Sullivan)
>    3. Re: pregunta (Javier Jiménez)
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> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:54:18 -0400 (EDT)
> From: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
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> Subject: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
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> 
>  Es correcto decir:
> 
> Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> 
> La vida de mi esposa.
> 
>  
> 
> juan Vazquez
> juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:38:41 -0500
> From: John Sullivan <idiez at me.com>
> To: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> Cc: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
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> Moillia, "nocihuauh inemiliz".
> John
> 
> On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:54 PM, juanvazquezvaz at aol.com wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Es correcto decir:
> > 
> > Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> > 
> > La vida de mi esposa.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:16:13 -0500
> From: Javier Jiménez <yekeus at gmail.com>
> To: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
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> Náhuatl de Ozolco, Calpan, Puebla, México
> 
> I ni nemiliz no zioahoh
> La vida de mí esposa.
> 
> Saludos
> Javier
> On Sep 18, 2013 4:10 PM, <juanvazquezvaz at aol.com> wrote:
> 
> >
> >  Es correcto decir:
> >
> > Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> >
> > La vida de mi esposa.
> >
> >
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
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> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:05:41 -0500
> From: Javier Jiménez <yekeus at gmail.com>
> To: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
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> Náhuatl de Ozolco, Calpan, Puebla, México
> 
> I ni nemiliz no zioahoh
> La vida de mí esposa.
> 
> Saludos
> Javier
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:13:00 -0400
> From: Frances Karttunen <karttu at comcast.net>
> To: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> Cc: nahuatl discussion list <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 3
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> It conveys the sense of "solamente" which reinforces "icel" "sola."
> 
> Fran Karttunen
> 
> 
> On Sep 21, 2013, at 1:30 PM, juanvazquezvaz at aol.com wrote:
> 
> > In the statement:  "Nochi     in    tequitl,      zan          
> > yeh     icel    oquichihuaya"
> >
> >                             "Todo el  
> > trabajo                           ella   sola   lo hacia"
> >
> > What is the purpose of  the word     ZAN?
> >
> > Tlazocamati
> >
> >
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >
> >
> 
> 
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