Nahuatl Digest, Vol 312, Issue 2
Jacinto Acatecatl
tekuani at hotmail.es
Thu Sep 26 18:56:24 UTC 2013
Estimados amigos del Foro, en muy usual encontrarse, con personas
interesadas en el náhuatl que quieren aprender y conocerlo con mayor
profundidad(lo cual me da mucha alegría) pero a la hora de pretender traducir frases,
o conceptos del español al Náhuatl, siempre se encuentran con un el desencanto
de que al armarlo o traducirlo, normalmente no coincide con lo que quieren decir,
y así como en otros idiomas, yo recomiendo se familiaricen con los conceptos
y frases en náhuatl y a partir de ahí intentar traducir, el presente
comentario no es con el afán de generar polémica ni ofender a ningún compañero
del foro, solo es un humilde comentario.
Le
deseo excelente tarde.
xitikan
kuale noknihuan.
ontlahkuilo:
Jacinto Acatecatl Namictle.
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 15:24:55 -0500
> From: Tomas Amando Amaya Aquino <t_amaya at megared.net.mx>
> To: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> Cc: Nahuat-lNahuat-l <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 3
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> Saludos Juan,
> Primero que nada es un muy buen enunciado en mexicano. Por tanto se pueden
> hacer varias traducciones al español:
> 1. "Nada más ella solita era la que hacía todo el trabajo"
> 2. "Todo el trabajo existente, lo hacía ella solita y nadie más"
> 3. "Todo ese trabajo, nomás lo hacía ella solita sin ayuda de nadie".
> El problema de esta frase es que una traducción más literal suena mal en
> español pues se trata de un enunciado con tópico inicial seguido de foco
> delimitado y especificado por ZAN
> Así, en inglés se podría decir:
> As for the whole work, she was the only one who carried it out.
> Te voy a poner un ejemplo en el mexicano de Cuetzalan. Yn matahcihuat zah
> tahcoyohuan in neci. Zayuh tahuananih in quitah. Tacah tihuinti xiauh
> mochantzinco mah ayamo tahcoyohuan. Yn matahcihuat quinhuica ohuihcan zayuh
> in ïn tahuananih, ïn tacah-cihuatohtocanih tahcoyohualquizah.
> Sonaría en español así: La matlahcihuatl solamente se aparece a media
> noche. Sólo pueden verla los borrachos. Si te emborrachas vete a tu casa
> antes de la media noche. La matlacihuatl se lleva a lugares horribles sólo
> a los borrachos y mujeriegos que salen a la media noche.
>
> Nimitzyolmahtapalohua
>
> Tomas Amaya
>
>
> 2013/9/21 <juanvazquezvaz at aol.com>
>
> > In the statement: "Nochi in tequitl, zan yeh icel
> > oquichihuaya"
> >
> > "Todo el trabajo
> > ella sola lo hacia"
> >
> > What is the purpose of the word ZAN?
> >
> > Tlazocamati
> >
> >
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:04:31 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 2
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> > thank you
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:54:18 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > To: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
> > Message-ID: <8D082BFFE77FFDE-1348-56EC at webmail-d281.sysops.aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >
> > Es correcto decir:
> >
> > Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> >
> > La vida de mi esposa.
> >
> >
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:38:41 -0500
> > From: John Sullivan <idiez at me.com>
> > To: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > Cc: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
> > Message-ID: <A9A130F4-7DAC-4ACB-8E16-435634516872 at me.com>
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> > Moillia, "nocihuauh inemiliz".
> > John
> >
> > On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:54 PM, juanvazquezvaz at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Es correcto decir:
> > >
> > > Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> > >
> > > La vida de mi esposa.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > juan Vazquez
> > > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:16:13 -0500
> > From: Javier Jiménez <yekeus at gmail.com>
> > To: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
> > Message-ID:
> > <
> > CAMYTJrE8a7LhczSpA8UOUcD7AEp67fzfMO9zEER441dHDkse3w at mail.gmail.com>
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> >
> > Náhuatl de Ozolco, Calpan, Puebla, México
> >
> > I ni nemiliz no zioahoh
> > La vida de mí esposa.
> >
> > Saludos
> > Javier
> > On Sep 18, 2013 4:10 PM, <juanvazquezvaz at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Es correcto decir:
> > >
> > > Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> > >
> > > La vida de mi esposa.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > juan Vazquez
> > > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > >
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:05:41 -0500
> > From: Javier Jiménez <yekeus at gmail.com>
> > To: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
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> >
> > Náhuatl de Ozolco, Calpan, Puebla, México
> >
> > I ni nemiliz no zioahoh
> > La vida de mí esposa.
> >
> > Saludos
> > Javier
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:40:34 -0500
> From: Jacinto Acatecatl <tekuani at hotmail.es>
> To: "nahuatl at lists.famsi.org" <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 2
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> Inemilis no sihua, es como yo diría, pero cualquier otra variante debe ser correcto.
> Atte.
> Jacinto Acatecatl
>
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:54:18 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > To: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
> > Message-ID: <8D082BFFE77FFDE-1348-56EC at webmail-d281.sysops.aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >
> > Es correcto decir:
> >
> > Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> >
> > La vida de mi esposa.
> >
> >
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:38:41 -0500
> > From: John Sullivan <idiez at me.com>
> > To: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > Cc: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
> > Message-ID: <A9A130F4-7DAC-4ACB-8E16-435634516872 at me.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Moillia, "nocihuauh inemiliz".
> > John
> >
> > On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:54 PM, juanvazquezvaz at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Es correcto decir:
> > >
> > > Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> > >
> > > La vida de mi esposa.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > juan Vazquez
> > > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Nahuatl mailing list
> > > Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:16:13 -0500
> > From: Javier Jiménez <yekeus at gmail.com>
> > To: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAMYTJrE8a7LhczSpA8UOUcD7AEp67fzfMO9zEER441dHDkse3w at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Náhuatl de Ozolco, Calpan, Puebla, México
> >
> > I ni nemiliz no zioahoh
> > La vida de mí esposa.
> >
> > Saludos
> > Javier
> > On Sep 18, 2013 4:10 PM, <juanvazquezvaz at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Es correcto decir:
> > >
> > > Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> > >
> > > La vida de mi esposa.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > juan Vazquez
> > > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Nahuatl mailing list
> > > Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > > http://www.famsi.org/mailman/listinfo/nahuatl
> > >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:05:41 -0500
> > From: Javier Jiménez <yekeus at gmail.com>
> > To: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAMYTJrHu63MnEshPRtyHyiFG2fy3DZCGDGgS5sn3ig0TsV3zbg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Náhuatl de Ozolco, Calpan, Puebla, México
> >
> > I ni nemiliz no zioahoh
> > La vida de mí esposa.
> >
> > Saludos
> > Javier
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
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>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:44:52 -0500
> From: Jacinto Acatecatl <tekuani at hotmail.es>
> To: "nahuatl at lists.famsi.org" <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
> Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 5
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> 1, Pero no le gustan los animales: pampa amo kipaktia tekuanimeh
>
> 2. Aunque tenemos un perro: tikpia se itzcuitle(i)/ chichi.
>
> 3. El perro es de mi hija: itzcuintle iyaxkah no takóh/ chichi i axkah no ichpokatl, este último es para referisre a una hija adolecente.
>
>
> > From: nahuatl-request at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 5
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> > 2. Re: Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 3 (juanvazquezvaz at aol.com)
> > 3. Re: Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 3 (Frances Karttunen)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:20:16 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 4
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> >
> > En realidad quiero que me digan como se escriben esas frases en Nahuatl.
> >
> >
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nahuatl-request <nahuatl-request at lists.famsi.org>
> > To: nahuatl <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
> > Sent: Sat, Sep 21, 2013 10:00 am
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> > 1. Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl: (juanvazquezvaz at aol.com)
> > 2. Re: Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl: (Michael McCafferty)
> > 3. Re: Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl: (Michael McCafferty)
> > 4. Re: Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl: (Michael McCafferty)
> > 5. Re: Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl: (Michael McCafferty)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 13:22:58 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: [Nahuat-l] Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl:
> > Message-ID: <8D0843D2F676E6F-1DF4-37E9 at Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 1, Pero no le gustan los animales
> >
> > 2. Aunque tenemos un perro
> >
> > 3. El perro es de mi hija
> >
> >
> > Mah cualli ohtli
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 15:40:03 -0400
> > From: Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>
> > To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl:
> > Message-ID: <20130920154003.sdw5mma6ssoc8s8c at webmail.iu.edu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed"
> >
> > Juan:
> >
> > ¿De que habla usted?
> >
> > ¿Quiere usted que alguien traduce estas frases en español para usted?
> >
> > Por favor, explique sus palabras misteriosas.
> >
> > Gracias,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > Quoting juanvazquezvaz at aol.com:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1, Pero no le gustan los animales
> > >
> > > 2. Aunque tenemos un perro
> > >
> > > 3. El perro es de mi hija
> > >
> > >
> > > Mah cualli ohtli
> > >
> > > juan Vazquez
> > > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > ------------------------------
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> > Message: 3
> > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 15:55:46 -0400
> > From: Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>
> > To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl:
> > Message-ID: <20130920155546.urd2acdngg0w40kw at webmail.iu.edu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed"
> >
> > Quoting juanvazquezvaz at aol.com:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 1, Pero no le gustan los animales
> >
> > Auh (Yeceh) ahmo tictlazohtla/ticcualitta yolcatl
> > >
> > > 2. Aunque tenemos un perro
> >
> > Immaneleh ticpiyah chichi
> >
> > > 3. El perro es de mi hija
> >
> > nohueltiuh ichichi
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Mah cualli ohtli
> > >
> >
> > ihuan tehhuatl
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > > juan Vazquez
> > > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > >
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> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 16:37:40 -0400
> > From: Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>
> > To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl:
> > Message-ID: <20130920163740.3ydz39k7wwckkg0w at webmail.iu.edu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed"
> >
> > An off-list message to me made me realize that I didn't explain request
> > from Juan. What I meant to say in my ahcualli Castellano was, why was a
> > Nahuatl/Spanish speaker asking the list how to translate these things?
> >
> > I was interested in the experiment he was conducting, whatever it may be.
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> > Quoting Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>:
> >
> > > Juan:
> > >
> > > ¿De que habla usted?
> > >
> > > ¿Quiere usted que alguien traduce estas frases en español para usted?
> > >
> > > Por favor, explique sus palabras misteriosas.
> > >
> > > Gracias,
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > Quoting juanvazquezvaz at aol.com:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 1, Pero no le gustan los animales
> > >>
> > >> 2. Aunque tenemos un perro
> > >>
> > >> 3. El perro es de mi hija
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Mah cualli ohtli
> > >>
> > >> juan Vazquez
> > >> juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >> Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
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> > >
> > >
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2013 17:16:55 -0400
> > From: Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>
> > To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Kenin moitoa ika Nahuatl:
> > Message-ID: <20130920171655.7q5hkbe6pwkwkoo8 at webmail.iu.edu>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format="flowed"
> >
> > Mi espanol no es bueno.
> >
> >
> >
> > It just occurred to me that "hija" daughter! (Fr. fille) ...not "sister"...
> >
> > nohueltiuh is 'my (older) sister'
> >
> > nochpochtzin is 'my daughter' (the -chtz- collision becomes tz)
> >
> > so
> >
> >
> > nochpochtzin ichichi
> >
> >
> > Mille regrets,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Quoting Michael McCafferty <mmccaffe at indiana.edu>:
> >
> > > Quoting juanvazquezvaz at aol.com:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 1, Pero no le gustan los animales
> > >
> > > Auh (Yeceh) ahmo tictlazohtla/ticcualitta yolcatl
> > >>
> > >> 2. Aunque tenemos un perro
> > >
> > > Immaneleh ticpiyah chichi
> > >
> > >> 3. El perro es de mi hija
> > >
> > > nohueltiuh ichichi
> > >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Mah cualli ohtli
> > >>
> > >
> > > ihuan tehhuatl
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >> juan Vazquez
> > >> juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > >>
> > >> _______________________________________________
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> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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> > End of Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 4
> > ***************************************
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2013 13:30:56 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 3
> > Message-ID: <8D085077692F54D-198C-A345 at webmail-m274.sysops.aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > In the statement: "Nochi in tequitl, zan yeh icel oquichihuaya"
> >
> > "Todo el trabajo ella sola lo hacia"
> >
> > What is the purpose of the word ZAN?
> >
> > Tlazocamati
> >
> >
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nahuatl-request <nahuatl-request at lists.famsi.org>
> > To: nahuatl <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
> > Sent: Fri, Sep 20, 2013 10:00 am
> > Subject: Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 3
> >
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> > 1. Re: Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 2 (juanvazquezvaz at aol.com)
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2013 13:04:31 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > To: nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 2
> > Message-ID: <8D08371713A6059-1758-F3F3 at webmail-d207.sysops.aol.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > thank you
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nahuatl-request <nahuatl-request at lists.famsi.org>
> > To: nahuatl <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
> > Sent: Thu, Sep 19, 2013 10:00 am
> > Subject: Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 2
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. pregunta (juanvazquezvaz at aol.com)
> > 2. Re: pregunta (John Sullivan)
> > 3. Re: pregunta (Javier Jiménez)
> > 4. Re: pregunta (Javier Jiménez)
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 15:54:18 -0400 (EDT)
> > From: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > To: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
> > Message-ID: <8D082BFFE77FFDE-1348-56EC at webmail-d281.sysops.aol.com>
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> >
> >
> > Es correcto decir:
> >
> > Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> >
> > La vida de mi esposa.
> >
> >
> >
> > juan Vazquez
> > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:38:41 -0500
> > From: John Sullivan <idiez at me.com>
> > To: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > Cc: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
> > Message-ID: <A9A130F4-7DAC-4ACB-8E16-435634516872 at me.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> >
> > Moillia, "nocihuauh inemiliz".
> > John
> >
> > On Sep 18, 2013, at 2:54 PM, juanvazquezvaz at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Es correcto decir:
> > >
> > > Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> > >
> > > La vida de mi esposa.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > juan Vazquez
> > > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 16:16:13 -0500
> > From: Javier Jiménez <yekeus at gmail.com>
> > To: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAMYTJrE8a7LhczSpA8UOUcD7AEp67fzfMO9zEER441dHDkse3w at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Náhuatl de Ozolco, Calpan, Puebla, México
> >
> > I ni nemiliz no zioahoh
> > La vida de mí esposa.
> >
> > Saludos
> > Javier
> > On Sep 18, 2013 4:10 PM, <juanvazquezvaz at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Es correcto decir:
> > >
> > > Inin inemeliz nocihuatl
> > >
> > > La vida de mi esposa.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > juan Vazquez
> > > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > >
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> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 4
> > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2013 17:05:41 -0500
> > From: Javier Jiménez <yekeus at gmail.com>
> > To: Nahuatl at lists.famsi.org
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] pregunta
> > Message-ID:
> > <CAMYTJrHu63MnEshPRtyHyiFG2fy3DZCGDGgS5sn3ig0TsV3zbg at mail.gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> >
> > Náhuatl de Ozolco, Calpan, Puebla, México
> >
> > I ni nemiliz no zioahoh
> > La vida de mí esposa.
> >
> > Saludos
> > Javier
> >
> >
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> > End of Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 2
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> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 3
> > Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 10:13:00 -0400
> > From: Frances Karttunen <karttu at comcast.net>
> > To: juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > Cc: nahuatl discussion list <nahuatl at lists.famsi.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Nahuat-l] Nahuatl Digest, Vol 311, Issue 3
> > Message-ID: <15BAD3F2-1C37-40A7-8E0B-174C34A4981E at comcast.net>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
> >
> > It conveys the sense of "solamente" which reinforces "icel" "sola."
> >
> > Fran Karttunen
> >
> >
> > On Sep 21, 2013, at 1:30 PM, juanvazquezvaz at aol.com wrote:
> >
> > > In the statement: "Nochi in tequitl, zan
> > > yeh icel oquichihuaya"
> > >
> > > "Todo el
> > > trabajo ella sola lo hacia"
> > >
> > > What is the purpose of the word ZAN?
> > >
> > > Tlazocamati
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > juan Vazquez
> > > juanvazquezvaz at aol.com
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
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