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The nahuatl people did not use it but the friars did certainly pump
themselves up.....
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Here is a piece from Fray Juan Gaona's peace and tranquility:
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Fray Ioa: de Gaona, sant
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Francisco teopixqui, vei teotlatol-
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matini.  Auh quinaxcan, occeppa
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Yancuican oquimopatili, oquimoc
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xitoquili, in cenca mauiztililoni to
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tlazotatzin Fray Miguel de zasare
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vei teotlatolmatini, yuan Comissa
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rio gn~al itechpa in santa cruzada,
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nica:ipa:
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<BR>
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>From: "Ehecatecolotl" <fjgs@servidor.unam.mx>
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>Reply-To: nahuat-l@server2.umt.edu
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>To: <nahuat-l@server2.umt.edu>
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>Subject: 1st person honorifics?
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>Date: Thu, 1 Jun 2000 21:07:10 -0600
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>
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><<snip>>
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> > The books say that using honorifics of oneself in Nahuatl is not done
<BR>
>because
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> > it would seem too pompous. But are there any examples of it found in the
<BR>
> > literature. perhaps to achieve a special effect? (Chinese has an
>example:
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>a
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> > pronoun pronounced "ching", written by a special character, which could
>be
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> > fairly translated as {nehhua:tzin}; only the Emperor was allowed to use
<BR>
>it!)
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>
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>
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>I understand the honorific used for one´s self is acceptable if the person
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>is being condescendent to him/herself, conveying the meaning of "poor me,
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>incapable of such or such deed", therefore, the situation mentioned by
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>Francestzin applies just fine or when the person is ill, etc.
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>
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>
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>
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>
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