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<P><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff size=2>Estimados colegas,<BR>Carlos and
Elizabeth:</FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The fact that, undoubtedly, both of
your arguments deserve careful and unbiased consideration (if we are ever to
move forward in the resolution of such debate) notwithstanding, it seems to me
that they may fall somewhat outside the main purpose of this list, which is,
AFAIK, to share knowledge about the nahuatl language and culture.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Please do not misinterpret me, as a
mexican citizen (using English as an international language, not because of an
anglocentric point of view) who lives in Mexico City, I am deeply interested in,
and affected by, the topic you bring out. I can hardly walk 100 mts. in any
direction from where I am currently typing this message, before I encounter one
of the many millions of people of indian ethnias who live a miserably life, in
all cases devoid of honor, ilusions, hope, opportunities, adequate education,
and personal satisfaction, ...and frequently of food, medical attention, and
adequate shelter and clothing.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If you kindly allow me, I will go
against my own advise (<SPAN class=343404118-22012002>back i</SPAN>n the
first paragraph) and present some comments on the topic, in order to clarify why
it may be that it brings such an emotional reaction in otherwise objective and
professional individuals as both Carlos (an Spaniard) and Elizabeth (a Mexican)
undoubtely are.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>There is a point in the arguments that
it is time for mexicans to face the fact that *most* of us are, at least, half
<SPAN class=343404118-22012002>S</SPAN>panish and we should learn to appreciate
that if we are ever to raise our self-steem. It *is* a fact that the Spanish
culture has contributed valuable things to the world, and there are more than a
few reasons to be proud of such a heritage.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Nevertheless, it is also well past the
time that we, and the Spaniards, and the rest of the concerned world (both
popular and academic) unbiasedly recognize the facts of the conquest as they
actually were and not, as has been overwhelmingly the case, in a "simplistic"
and, by now, "boring" manner of doing human history. And this implies the
recognition that, among many other things, Cortés did *not* "beat" the aztecs
(I'm using this controversial term so as not to refer exclusively to the
mexicah, be them tenochcah or tlaltelolcah, or any other concrete anahuac
altepetl) by "cunning" strategy and "glorious" display of courage with the help
of "only" 500 or so men. Instead, he accomplished this by:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>1) a series of cowardly massacres
*deliberately* planned and inflicted on unarmed and unexpecting human beings(at
Cholollan's and Tenochtitlan's Plazas Mayores); the killing at Tenochtitlan,
particularly, had the effect of substantialy and significanlty reducing the
military leadership of the mexicah.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>2) by commiting the despeakable act of
sequestering the top rulers of the land where he had landed, who until that
moment had had nothing but attentions and presents for him and his "King";
having their absolute ruler being imprisonned in his own house by his own
guests, effectively disabled the mexicah organization. It was not until
Motecuhzoma was killed, by the Spaniards themselves upon realizing that he no
longer was useful since the folk would no longer obey his orders to refrain from
attacking the Spanish-Tlaxcallan coalition, but his death could be useful since
it would involve long and elaborated funerary rites that could keep their now
enemies busy while they fled the city) that the remaining mexicah, unhindered by
the moral restriction of directly causing the death of his beloved rulers, was
finally able to assemble some resistance.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>3) by eventually (machiavellicaly, but
very effectively it must be admitted) enlisting the help of practically every
other nahuatl altepetl in his war against the mexicah; it must not be forgotten
that, in the end, the mexicah people were fighting agains their very, very close
relatives (cousins, in-laws, even half siblings) when they fought against the
people of the former acolhua and tepaneca empires.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>4) contrary to what is the traditional,
unexamined, simplistic general opinion, it was the *mexicah* who were grossly
*outnumbered* in the vast majority of their battles against the
Spanish-Tlaxcallan (and later
Spanish-Tlaxcallan-Huexotzinca-Chalca-Acolhua-Tepaneca) coalition.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>4) and, most important of all, by a
dramatically effective (if absolutely unintended) *biological* warfare that
eventually killed millions of people, but that at the moment of the siege of
Tenochtitlan and Tlaltelolco had the immediate effect of eliminating any
effective resistance, such as the one attempted, valiantly and effectively while
it lasted, by Cuitlahuac. By the time Cuauhtemoc gained command, there was no
longer a chance of successfully defending the island cities with the possible
exception of enlisting the help of their old adversaries, the Purépecha.
Unfortunately, the Purépecha ruler died at that moment, probably killed also by
the diseases brought by the Spaniards (Cortés, if anything, was a very lucky
guy, for he was blessed with favor even from the hands of his enemies, as
evidence points out that the diseases that so effectively helped him were
brought by some people in the Narvaez party), and was succeeded by his
feeble-minded son who refused to help Cuauhtemoc and, ultimately, suffered the
same fate as him, only that he was tied to a running horse to be dismembered
instead of being dishonorably hanged from a tree deep in the Chiapanecan
jungle). </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Furthermore, human sacrifices (whether
or not they were made, and whatever quantities of people were involved in case
that they actually happened in the manner related by the conquerors and early
chroniclers) taken aside, the fact is that there was in effect a magnificent
civilization with hundreds of cities and elaborate social institutions in this
very same valley before the Spaniards (we?) came and now it is gone. Think about
the loss for the world if the same thing had happened to another distinctive
non-western culture, say, Japan. Well, it seems to me, that the loss of the
Aztec civilization is arguably comparable.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>There were, literally, millions of
people living in the valley of Mexico in 1520; the Spanish-speaking Mexico City,
although today again among the most populated urban areas in the world, was not
to have that same number of inhabitants for the next 400 years... and it is
worth to keep in mind that it had taken the mexicah only 200 years to create
their Tenochtitlan and Tlaltelolco. Today, I look out at the window, the lake
gone, the sky no longer blue, and most of what I see is an unplanne<SPAN
class=343404118-22012002>d</SPAN><SPAN class=343404118-22012002>, mostly
dirty </SPAN>city, with ugly buildings, spread like a rash alongside the
otrora beautiful hills.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>Clearly, for me at least, a
view that blames the Spaniards for every bad cultural trait that may be
generalized over the current mexican population, is not only simplistic but
puerile. However, taken from an unbiased, objective, statistical point of view,
the observation that very much the same cultural and character traits<SPAN
class=343404118-22012002> </SPAN><SPAN class=343404118-22012002>are shared
by all the countries conquered by the Spaniards, inevitably leads one to
consider the fact that an explanation involving those cultural traits as being
present in the original invaders is likely to be in more accordance with Occam's
Razor principle than one involving the independent evolution of such traits in a
multitude of lands with vastly different underlying social and genetical
substrates. Please note that I am not making any moral judgement on the traits
themselves.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Also not to be forgotten is that even
though the Arabs remained in Spain for *700* years, and undoubtedly brought high
culture and refinement to that land, the original Spaniars, certainly now mixed
(linguistically and genetically) with their former conquerors, won it
back.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>As I said before, my
intention here has not been to enter into an argument that will, in all
probability, not take anybody anywhere, and which certainly does not belong in
this list; but to respectfully attempt to convey, to whoever this may be of
concern or interest, why the resolution of the internal conflict that pervades
our heritage is far from easy for us mexicans<SPAN class=343404118-22012002>.
And I, like Elizabeth probably, and like the rest of the 100 million or so
human beings that populate this land now called Estados Unidos Mexicanos
cannot run away from this conflict anymore.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=343404118-22012002>It is in further understanding that we may find a truly
human solution to this problem. Such is the value of this list. Thank you for
your patience reading this quite long posting.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2>Ernesto Herrera
Legorreta<BR></FONT></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Director
of Business Intelligence<BR></FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Metadata SA<BR>Mexico DF</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>-----Mensaje original-----</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>De: owner-nahuat-l@mrs.umn.edu
[mailto:owner-nahuat-l@mrs.umn.edu]En</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>nombre de Elisabeth Curiel</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Enviado el: Tuesday, January 22, 2002
10:23</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Para: carlossn@diploma.com</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>CC: nahuat-l@mrs.umn.edu</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Asunto: Re: nobleza azteca</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Carlos Santamaría:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Entre toda tu baraúnta de disertaciones
pretenciosas con que me apabullaste, </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>no entendi qué quisiste decir
exactamente. ¿Etnocentrismo? No, no no. Los </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>tiempos evolucionan. Te pondré un
ejemplo: En tiempos de mi trisabuela (hace </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>más de 80 años), decirle "macho" a un
hombre, era el mayor halago que se le </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>podría decir. Si yo le digo eso a un
hombre hoy, me fulmina con la mirada. Y </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>por supuesto que lo que hicieron los
colonizadores del Nuevo Mundo fue muy </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>influenciante, pero ¡qué se le hace
compadre! Los reyes españoles se </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>cansaron de redactar cédular, nombrar
visitadores, etc., para vigilar que </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>sus vasallos obedecieran sus ordenanzas
y que no terminaran con los </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>naturales del pais como hicieron con
los de la Española; y nada que los </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>ambiciosos colonizadores continuaron
haciendo esclavos, robándoles sus </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>"sementeras", herrándoles las mejillas
como a animales, creando encomiendas, </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>y muchas lindezas más. ¿Etnocentrismo?
ni siquiera tienes idea de lo que </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>dices.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Y respecto a los Anales de Cuauhtitlan,
que fueron rescatadas por don </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Fernando de Alba, mi comentario fue
sobre la inexactitud de la traducción </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>que hizo Primo Feliciano Velazquez, un
nahuatlato, quien indudablemente </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>estaba fuertemente influenciada por los
motivos mencionados en mi carta, y </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>de los cuales haces mofa con tanta
gracia.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Te pondré un ejemplo obvio: noto que el
traductor, un descendiente de </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>nobles, traduce "nopiltzin", como "mi
hijo", al referirse a Quetzalcóuatl, </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>cuando los "demonios" van a engañarlo,
y no lo traduce como "nuestro </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>príncipe", como debería ser más propio
al dirigirse a un rey de la altura </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>del Gemelo Precioso. Por supuesto, que
nopiltzin podría traducirse como mi </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>hijo, pero no en este caso, digo, soy
un poco lerda y puedo equivocarme.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>¿Acaso en la antiguedad, cuando se
presentaba un extraño ante un rey, le </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>llamaba "mi hijito"? Si es así, por
favor cita fuentes.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Texto citado: "Quilhui nopiltzin
tlamacazqui ca nimomacehual ompanihuitzin </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>nonohualcatepetl itzintlan maxicmottili
in monacayotzin, niman cenmacac in </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Tetzcatl quilhui maxi miximati maxi
mottanopiltzin ø ca ompa tonneciz in </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>tetzcatl."</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Primo Feliciano traduce: "Aquél
respondió: “Hijo mío, sacerdote, yo </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>soy tu vasallo; vengo de la falda de
Nonohualcatépetl; mira señor, tu </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>cuerpo. Luego le dio el espejo y le
dijo: “Mirate y conócete, hijo </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>mio; que has de aparecer en el
espejo.”</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Lisita Curiel</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>PS (Lo del diminutivo es
etno-egocentrismo eh?)</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>From: Carlos Santamarina Novillo
<carlossn@diploma.com></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>To: Elisabeth Curiel
<liccuriel@hotmail.com>, nahuatl-l@mrs.umn.edu</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>Subject: Re: la nobleza
azteca</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2002 11:31:21
+0100</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>Elisabeth Curiel ha
escrito:</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> > Desafortunadamente, la
Inquisición, la evolución cultural natural de los</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> > tiempos, el desconocimiento
de los antiguos secretos sagrados del</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> > sacerdocio, el deseo de
agradar e impresionar a los buenos reyes </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>españoles,</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> > y muchos otros factores más,
distorsionaron la información que nos </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>dejaron</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> > los historiadores
precortesianos, y ahora nos obligan (como las </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>cocineras</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> > que sacan los negritos del
arroz) a buscar cuidadosamente las verdades </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>entre</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> > todos aquellos escritos y
fuentes de los que podemos valernos para </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>adquirir</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> > conocimiento sobre la
civilización, la religión y la lengua de los </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>antiguos.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>Analicemos-interpretemos el
texto.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>Hay un protagonista central: "la
información que nos dejaron los</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>historiadores
precortesianos"</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>que sufre la acción de un verbo:
"fue distorsionada";</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>y una serie de factores causantes
de la negativa acción de ese verbo: </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>"la</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>Inquisición, la evolución natural
de los tiempos, el desconocimiento de los</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>antiguos secretos sagrados del
sacerdocio, el deseo de agradar e </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>impresionar a</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>los buenos reyes españoles,
etc."</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> Lo anterior nos obliga -a los
historiadores modernos- a tratar de </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>desandar</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>aquel proceso para recuperar "las
verdades". No cabe duda, entonces de la</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>identificación que la autora lleva
a cabo entre aquel protagonista central </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>y</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>este último objetivo actual, es
decir, entre "la información que nos </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>dejaron los</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>historiadores precortesianos" y
"las verdades".</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> Subyace una interpretación
maniquea y simplista -desgraciadamente </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>todavía muy</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>extendida en México- que identifica
verdad, legitimidad, justicia con los </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>aquí</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>llamados "precortesianos", mientras
a los españoles corresponden las </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>"virtudes"</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>opuestas. Se diría que fueron los
españoles los que introdujeron en </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>Mesoamérica</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>la mentira y las versiones
historiográficas asociadas al poder. Manida,</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>simplista, maniquea y aburrida
visión de la historia humana.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> Las fuentes indígenas, como
cualquier otra, han de ser sometidas a </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>crítica</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>para aprender a reconocer las
versiones interesadas que de su propia </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>historia</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>dieron las élites indígenas.
Cualquiera que esté introducido en el tema </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>conoce</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>el etnocentrismo característico de
la historiografía indígena, y los Anales </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>de</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>Cuauhtitlan son un ejemplo
destacado. Además, siendo la azteca una sociedad</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>estratificada, con clases o
estamentos diferenciados, no sorprende que la</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>historia estuviera al servicio del
poder, que Itzcóatl mandara quemar los </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>viejos</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>"papeles pintados" y reescribir la
historia a la mayor gloria de los nuevos</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>señores. Sólo citar las fuentes
derivadas de la llamada "Crónica X" o la </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>obra de</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>Fdo. de Alva Ixtlilxóchitl es ya
referirse a parcialidad interesada,</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>etnocentrismo y
tendenciosidad.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> Todo lo anterior sólo viene a
concluir que la lucha del historiador </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>moderno</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>en búsqueda de la verdad ha de
tener en cuenta todos los "estratos de</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>tergiversación" y subjetividad que
las fuentes han venido atravesando desde </FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>su</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>misma gestación. Y eso no se
detiene en 1521, sino que afecta a todos los</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>periodos de la historia
humana.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>Gracias y a seguir bien.</FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>>< Carlos Santamarina Novillo ---
carlossn@diploma.com ></FONT></P>
<P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>></FONT></P>
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