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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Juan,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=SpellE><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks</span></font></span><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'> <span class=SpellE>for</span> <span class=SpellE>your</span> <span
class=SpellE>comments</span>. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I
can not support Castaneda’s hypothesis. I’m just wanted to share it
because it would be an alternative explanation to a worship inherited from ancient
cultures in Mesosamerica. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I
would like to say something more ; Don Juan Matus expose <span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>that he ( and Carlos of course ) belongs to an
ancient culture, in fact , Toltec Culture. Castanenda’s book “El
don del Aguila” propose a Toltec civilitation who made temples to focus
an special attention ( attention is a concept to awake a spirituyal
consciouness) . The top of one temple would be a point of a superior attention –
I do not know , I’m just playing with ideas – because many
arqueologist says pyramids were builted in layers at different times. It could
be like a trainning were subject –candidate to this mysteries- took many
years.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Toltecs
means “builders”. What is the relation between Pyramids, magicians
and toltecs ?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>I’d
really like to know more comments to this topic.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy;mso-ansi-language:EN-US'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Mario Marquez<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Mensaje original-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>De:</span></b> Nahua language and culture
discussion [mailto:NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>En
nombre de </span></b>Juan Alvarez Cuauhtemoc<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Enviado el:</span></b> Lunes, 11 de Octubre
de 2004 11:23 a.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Para:</span></b> NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Asunto:</span></b> The Origin and Function of
Mesoamerican Pyramids</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Mario Marquez
comments on Castañeda's hypothesis of the function and origin of pyramids
in Mesoamerica (as outlined below) does not take into account one
important feature of the pyramids of Mesoamerica: the temple (or the dual
temples) at the apex of the pyramids. What was the function of these
temples at the top of the pyramids? Why do some pyramids have temples
(Tenochtitlan, e.g. the pyramid of el Templo Mayor) and some don't (Teotihuacan,
e.g., the pyramid of the Sun)? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Obviously,
there is more going on here than what Marquez and Castañeda propose
below. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Teotihuacan,
Tula, Chichén Itza, Monte alban, solo son<br>
resquicios de monumentos creados para el incremento de estos
"poderes".<br>
Los brujos de antaño se sentaban a concentrar su atención en puntos<br>
particulares de las pirámides logrando desconectarse del "mundo real"
de<br>
manera que alteraban su visión y su concepción del mundo.</span></font><font
color=blue><span style='color:blue'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Podríamos quizá
relacionar a miles de monumentos en todo el planeta con<br>
este objetivo; hacer que el iniciado centrara su atención plena para<br>
despertar sus facultades mentales, físicas y espirituales.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Is the
temple(s) on top of the pyramid a late development? Was the vision and
conception of the world transformed from an awakening of people's psychic and
spiritual consciousness to a mode of worship, ritual and ceremonial center
based on their own (or a new) understanding of Ultimate Reality?
These are the questions that are not accounted for in the Castañeda/Marquez
hypothesis.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>I would be
interested to know what other Listeros think about this. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Juan Alvarez
Cuauhtemoc</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:35.4pt'><font size=3 color=blue
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:blue'>Independent
Scholar</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p>
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