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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Correction: monosyllable nounROOTS!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Rikke
Marie Olsen<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 29. maj 2005 11:24<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: altepetl</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think altepetl is a fossilized form. We
have already discussed (Chimalpahin) and largely agreed that there are
exeptional forms, where monosyllable verbs keeps the absolutive suffix in
composites and incorporations.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I believe that the original form was
atl-tepetl. Only if you try to pronounce it, it will sound more and more like
al-tepetl the more you say it. In other words I see it as an assimilation of
‘tl’ in front of ‘t’ gives ‘lt’.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I’m sorry if I’m repeating an
answer from someone else. I haven’t read every answer thoroughly.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Rikke Marie <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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w:st="on">Nahua language and culture discussion</st1:PersonName>
[mailto:NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>zorrah@ATT.NET<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 28. maj 2005 20:08<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> altepetl</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Maybe I didn’t understand the lesson in the
“Chimalpahin” thread, but can someone please clarify why
"altepetl" does not follow the general assimilation patterns as these
other examples do:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<strong><b><font face="Times New Roman">General Assimilation Examples:</font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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1) na:huatl + tlahto:lli (word, language) = na:huallahto:lli 'Nahuatl
language'<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2) a:tl + tla:lli (earth) = a:tla:lli 'irrigated land'<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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3) a:tl + tlapechtli (bed) = a:tlape:chtli 'slope, side of a gully'<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Also, in examples 2 and 3, is it the presence of the long vowel
“a:” stem that is left after the -tl is dropped, only to be
confronted with a twin “absolutive suffix-looking tl-” (of course
the tl- of tla:lli or tlape:chtli is NOT absolutive) <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Looking at altepetl, is it the strong “a:” stem again, who this
time will accept a half-image or mirror-image of its former self? <br>
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4) a:tl (water) + tepe:tl (hill) = a:ltepe:tl (town, pueblo)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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What is going on here?<br>
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citlalin xochime<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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