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<DIV>Thanks so much to everyone who has taken the time to think about my
question. I am very grateful for all the advice offered - it is really much
appreciated. And also apologies for sending a message intended only for Max to
the entire list! </DIV>
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<DIV>Just to contribute slightly to the debate - from my recent experience, I
think that it is usually the libraries who claim copyright, but when I looked at
the UC website you are now able to request copyright permissions for pages from
their publications (including the Mendoza) online, so I presume that they are
claiming the right to the four volume facsimile content. It is possible, of
course, that they have come to an agreement with the Bodleian to that
effect. </DIV>
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<DIV>And thinking about Susan's question - I think I am right in saying that a
friend avoided a number of copyright permissions by creating his own
line-drawings of images. If an image has been redrawn or modified in some way,
I think that measure of whether you need permission is whether it is
'substantially' the same as the original. I just wondered whether, if you were
prepared to draw your own version, if that might be a feasible solution,
but it may still need permission, these things really seem to vary! </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Thanks to all again.</DIV>
<DIV>Yours,</DIV>
<DIV>Caroline</DIV>
<DIV>-----<BR>Dr. Caroline Dodds<BR>Junior Research Fellow<BR>Sidney Sussex
College <BR>CB2 3HU</DIV>
<DIV><BR><A href="mailto:ced44@cam.ac.uk">ced44@cam.ac.uk</A><BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jrabasa@CALMAIL.BERKELEY.EDU
href="mailto:jrabasa@CALMAIL.BERKELEY.EDU">José Rabasa</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU
href="mailto:NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU">NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, August 13, 2005 5:49
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Image
permissions/copyright</DIV>
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<DIV>Dear Caroline and Max:</DIV>
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<DIV>It is my impression that the days when publishers gave permission are
over, given that libraries claim rights. This was for instance the case with a
request to use images from the UC Berkeley edition of the Mendoza; they just
sent me to the Bodleyian. Having said this, Caroline, you may as well try
Max's recommendation first. It might work. I am currently waiting for
authorization to use a reproduction of a a page from the facsimile of
the Florentine Codex. Who has the rights? The photographer, the publisher or
the <FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size=-1> Biblioteca Medicea
Laurenziana</FONT>? I have the impression that we had this discussion
before and that the general opinion was that it is the libraries who hold the
rights. Unfortunately, I might add. But this is not the place for nationalist
rant.</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Jose</DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE cite="" type="cite">Dear Caroline,<BR><BR>In my Aztecs, Moors,
and Christians (2000), I used images from the<BR>Codex Borbonicus, ed. Karl
Nowotny (1974), courtesy of Akademische<BR>Druck-u. Verlagsanstalt; the
Florentine Codex, 13 vols., ed. and<BR>trans. Anderson and Dribble
(1950-1982), courtesy of the University of<BR>Utah Press and the School of
American Research; and the Codice Aubin<BR>[Historia de la nacion mexicana,
ed. and trans. Charles Dibble<BR>(1963)], courtesy of Editorial Porrua. None
of these publishers asked<BR>for anything more than the proper
acknowledgment.<BR><BR>Best wishes,<BR><BR>Max
Harris<BR><BR><BR> <BR><BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From:
Caroline Dodds <ced44@CAM.AC.UK><BR>Date: Monday, August 8, 2005 11:55
am<BR>Subject: Image permissions/copyright<BR><BR>> Dear
Colleagues,<BR>><BR>> I am currently working on my first book for
Palgrave (a<BR>> development of my<BR>> doctoral thesis about gender
in Aztec culture) and I was hoping<BR>> that those<BR>> on the list
with far greater experience might be prepared to offer<BR>> some<BR>>
advice about copyright permissions. As is usual with these things,<BR>> I
am<BR>> wrangling with the publisher about costs of permissions and
who<BR>> will pay<BR>> them (mostly me!) and so have been
investigating the best place to<BR>> obtain<BR>> some images. The cost
of permissions vary tremendously between<BR>> institutions<BR>> and I
was wondering if anyone could recommend any particularly<BR>> good
(and<BR>> preferably affordable) sources of Aztec images.<BR>><BR>>
The pictures in the book will be black and white in-text images,<BR>> not
plates,<BR>> and are mostly intended to illustrate the text and evoke the
sense<BR>> of the<BR>> culture, rather than to be critical to the
discussion, which gives<BR>> me quite<BR>> a lot of flexibility. Any
advice or suggestions which you could<BR>> offer would<BR>> be much
appreciated. Thank you all in advance.<BR>><BR>> Yours,<BR>>
Caroline<BR>> -----<BR>> Dr. Caroline Dodds<BR>> Junior Research
Fellow<BR>> Sidney Sussex College<BR>> CB2 3HU<BR>><BR>>
ced44@cam.ac.uk<BR>></BLOCKQUOTE>
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