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<TITLE>Re: Ixtle -sisal-henequin?</TITLE>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>That must be it. Frances
Karttunen's dictionary has i:ch-tli, thread made from maguey fiber (which is
what sisal or henequen is, you know). </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>Santamaria's Diccionario de
Mejicanismos has:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2><STRONG>Ixtle</STRONG> (Del azt.
<EM>ixtli</EM>). m. Nombre generico, aztequismo que se ha hecho de uso universal
para llamar toda clase de fibras vegetales. 2. Nombre que se aplica al genero
vegetal de los <EM>Agaves</EM> y a las plantas que lo forman y que producen
fibra, caracteristicas de Mejico, en numerosisimas especies que tienen varios
nombres peculiares y regionales. 3. Por extension y en terminos de charreria, la
reata de lazar, el peal, la lechuguilla, y esto por donaire.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>(Santamaria, you should know, was no
nahuatlato.)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>I recall that in San Luis Potosi the word
ixtle was used for the fiber/ropes made from the lechuguilla, a maguey-like
plant but a lot tinier than your average maguey.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>David Frye</FONT></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr><FONT face=Arial size=2>Dependent scholar</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Nahua language and culture discussion on
behalf of Stafford Poole<BR><B>Sent:</B> Fri 8/19/2005 5:30 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Ixtle
-sisal-henequin?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<P><FONT size=2>The only word I can think of is ichtli, meaning the thread spun
from the<BR>maguey fiber. The confusion of x and ch was not uncommon in
older documents and<BR>the pronunciations are close.<BR><BR>Stafford
Poole<BR>Independent scholar<BR></FONT></P></DIV>
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