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Ceyoc tlahtlanilli:<br>
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re: The word Teotlac in classic Nahuatl, and Tiotlac in Chicontepec
Nahuatl<br>
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teo = god, divine, super... ( as in sun)<br>
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what does the TLAC signify? my guess: it has to do with the sun
descending?<br>
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Tlazcamati miyec!<br>
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Thanks to all the scholars who responded!!!!<br>
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mario e. aguilar<br>
wannabe scholar<br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:idiez@MAC.COM">idiez@MAC.COM</a>
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type="cite">"ichtli" is the maguey fiber used to make ropes ("mecatl")
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Huasteca. <br>
"cuaichtli" is a an older person with white hair. <br>
"nocuaichhui", "my white hair" <br>
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John Sullivan <br>
Teicneltzin tlen zan tlamachtihtinemi canahya <br>
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On Aug 19, 2005, at 5:28 PM, Frye, David wrote: <br>
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<blockquote><!-- Arial --><font size="-1">That must be it.
Frances Karttunen's dictionary has i:ch-tli, thread made from maguey
fiber (which is what sisal or henequen is, you know).</font> <br>
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<!-- Arial --><font size="-1">Santamaria's Diccionario de
Mejicanismos has:</font> <br>
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<b><!-- Arial --><font size="-1">Ixtle</font></b><!-- Arial --><font
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(Del azt. <i>ixtli</i>). m. Nombre generico, aztequismo que
se ha hecho de uso universal para llamar toda clase de fibras
vegetales. 2. Nombre que se aplica al genero vegetal de los <i>Agaves</i>
y a las plantas que lo forman y que producen
fibra, caracteristicas de Mejico, en numerosisimas especies que tienen
varios nombres peculiares y regionales. 3. Por extension y en terminos
de charreria, la reata de lazar, el peal, la lechuguilla, y esto por
donaire.</font> <br>
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<!-- Arial --><font size="-1">(Santamaria, you should know,
was no nahuatlato.)</font> <br>
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<!-- Arial --><font size="-1">I recall that in San Luis
Potosi the word ixtle was used for the fiber/ropes made from the
lechuguilla, a maguey-like plant but a lot tinier than your average
maguey.</font> <br>
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<!-- Arial --><font size="-1">David Frye</font> <br>
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<b><!-- Tahoma --><font size="-1">From:</font></b><!-- Tahoma --><font
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Nahua language and culture discussion on behalf of Stafford Poole</font>
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Fri 8/19/2005 5:30 PM</font> <br>
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href="mailto:NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU">NAHUAT-L@LISTS.UMN.EDU</a></font>
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<b><!-- Tahoma --><font size="-1">Subject:</font></b><!-- Tahoma --><font
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Re: Ixtle -sisal-henequin?</font> <br>
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<font size="-1">The only word I can think of is ichtli, meaning
the
thread
spun from the</font> <br>
<font size="-1">maguey fiber. The confusion of x and ch was not
uncommon in
older documents and</font> <br>
<font size="-1">the pronunciations are close.</font> <br>
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<font size="-1">Stafford Poole</font> <br>
<font size="-1">Independent scholar</font> <br>
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