<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Mariotzin huan listeros:</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>me:tz-tli + xi:c-tli + -co = me:tzxi:cco (en el ombligo de la luna)</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>me-tl + xi:c-tli + -co= mexi:cco (en el ombligo del maguey)<br><div>Neither of these resembles me:xihco (Mexico)</div><div>The only thing we can assume is that is that the root of me:xihco is the unattested noun "me:xihtli".</div><div>John</div><div><br></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 12px; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">John Sullivan, Ph.D.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Profesor de lengua y cultura nahua</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Universidad Autónoma de Zacatecas</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Instituto de Docencia e Investigación Etnológica de Zacatecas, A.C.</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Tacuba 152, int. 43</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Centro Histórico</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Zacatecas, Zac. 98000</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">México</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Oficina: +52 (492) 925-3415</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Fax: +1 (858) 724-3030 (en EU)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Domicilio: +52 (492) 768-6048</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Celular: +52 1 (492) 103-0195</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><a href="mailto:idiez@me.com">idiez@me.com</a></font></div><p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "></font></p><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><a href="http://www.macehualli.org">www.macehualli.org</a></font></div></span></div></div><div><div>On Jul 23, 2009, at 7:08 PM, micc2 wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"> <div bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi again,<br> <br> As if <i>2012, In Lakech, and Mexica Tiahui </i>had not burnt out our little grey cells.......<br> <br> The name Mexico has been interpreted by new Age types as "the place of the navel of the moon," "the place of the navel of the maguey" <br> <br> My question is, if the word is Me:xi'co (long vowel E, and glottal stop after the short vowel I), what would be the argument for or against these two interpretations? And if this is not correct, what would be?<br> <br> I understand that the Modern Nahuatl name for Mexico is: "Mexco." Would that have some linguistic root in the meaning of the word in classic times?<br> <ol> <li>I argue that the "creators" of these two analysis of Mexico ignore vowel length and glottal stops.... Am I wrong?</li> <li>If Huitzilopochtli was seen as a tribal/solar deity, and he had just "dismembered" his sister Coyolxauhqui (who some claim is the moon... but I think she is a terrestrial deity that symbolizes the "old guard" of Teotihuacan and the Toltecs... but I digress again) at Coatepec (that then becomes the Templo Mayor in Tenochtitlan), why would the name of his capital be related to the moon?<br> </li> <li>If the name means the navel of the maguey..... would it not be incongruous, since at that time the island of Mexico was a very wet and probably cold alpine area, not the best environment for an agave.....?</li> <li>I understand that Me:xi'co means the place of the Me:xi'ca.... which means the "people of Mexi." is there a study which I can point to that shows this etymology?<br> </li> </ol> <br> Mario, always ready to learn.....<br> <font color="#666666"><br> I live for reasoned, enlightened spirituality:<br> </font> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72"><font color="#666666">
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