<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Magnus,<div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Wouldn't your examples be, "nimitznomaquilia" or "nimitzmomaquilia", "I hit you (reverential)"? Or "nimitzmaquilia cuamezah (or whatever you use for table)", "I hit your table"?</div><div>John</div><div><br><div><div>On Nov 10, 2010, at 12:32 PM, Magnus Pharao Hansen wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Flores Farfán (in cuatreros somos) mentions that in the balsas there is a minimal pair of <i>maka </i>and <i>maga </i>where the one with k is "give" and the one with g is "hit". <br><br>In Hueyapan they don't generally use maquilia for "hit" - they use plain <i>maca </i>(pronounced [maga] whether it means hit or give) sometimes they use yekmaka to specify its hit. In hueyapan maquilia would be the applicative or the honorific form so that nimitzmaquilia could mean "I something to you(R)" or "I hit something of yours (e.g. your child)". <br>
<br><br>What I've heard is a tendency that some of the constructions where Spanish has a seeming extra arguments e.g. in anaphrastic passives "se le parece", "se me vino la idea", the Nahuatl constructions uses the applicative to have the same number of overt arguments as in the Spanish equivalent so you'd have "kinexilia" "he looks like him" or "onechahxilih in idea" - instead of plain "ihkion nesi" or "onikpix in idea". I don't have any good examples in texts at hand - ill send you some if I find ones<br>
<br>Magnus<br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 November 2010 12:21, John Sullivan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:idiez@me.com">idiez@me.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word;">Magnus,<div><span style="white-space: pre-wrap;"> </span>Do you have some other example from Hueyapan. I'd really like to see if there are parallels in the Huasteca.</div><div>John</div>
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