From baden at COMPULING.NET Mon Dec 2 04:23:40 2002 From: baden at COMPULING.NET (Baden Hughes) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:23:40 +1000 Subject: Resource Access Message-ID: Currently I'm working on a repository which differential access controls applied to resources within the repository. After looking at the OLAC standards documents, the closest reference I can see to this is OLAC-Rights, which I can't find a draft for. However, based on the olac Metadata set, even the Rights element doesn't quite address this problem. Essentially we have a situation where for every resource there is a specified access control (open, enquire, closed) with some further refinements (open for reading, changes require permission, not for redistribution etc). Although we could create our own metadata extension to express this, I wonder if others have found other ways to address this, or if it is something new which we should add in some way to OLAC ? Baden From Gary_Simons at SIL.ORG Mon Dec 2 05:00:35 2002 From: Gary_Simons at SIL.ORG (Gary Simons) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:00:35 -0600 Subject: Resource Access Message-ID: Baden, There is now a document describing the proposed four-way rights vocabulary that we will review next week in the Philadelphia workshop. Your feedback on this, as you attempt to apply it to your collection, will be most helpful. It is at: http://www.language-archives.org/REC/access.html -Gary From Gary_Simons at SIL.ORG Tue Dec 3 23:31:31 2002 From: Gary_Simons at SIL.ORG (Gary Simons) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:31:31 -0600 Subject: New draft of OLAC metadata standard Message-ID: Dear all, Our workshop is fast approaching! One of the things we will be discussing is the proposal for the version 1.0 OLAC metadata standard which includes an extension mechanism. Steven and I had previously presented the basic ideas for discussion in this list, but have finally completed a draft of a document describing the proposed standard. It is posted at: http://www.language-archives.org/drafts/metadata.html A related document that lists the extensions that are being proposed as OLAC Recommendations is also available at: http://www.language-archives.org/drafts/olac-extensions.html Links to these documents now appear on the workshop preparation page: http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/preparation.html See you soon, -Gary _______________ Open Language Archives Community (http://www.language-archives.org) Steven Bird (University of Melbourne) and Gary Simons (SIL International) olac-admin at language-archives.org From sb at UNAGI.CIS.UPENN.EDU Wed Dec 4 11:20:54 2002 From: sb at UNAGI.CIS.UPENN.EDU (Steven Bird) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 06:20:54 EST Subject: Final preparation for OLAC workshop Message-ID: Folks, Here are some final announcements about the workshop. FINDING YOUR WAY AROUND Consider printing out some of the maps on our venue page before you travel: http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/venue.html Also, see the local arrangements page for instructions on airport transfers, or for travel by train or car. http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/local.html Summary: $20 gets you a taxi from the airport to the University Sheraton on Chestnut and 36th; ask at the desk how to find IRCS at Walnut and 34th; we're on the 4th floor. LAST-MINUTE PREPARATION Please review the documents on our preparation page, which provide the necessary background for our discussions. You might bring them along for light reading on the plane :-) We'll have hardcopies available for all participants at the meeting. http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/preparation.html They're organized in order of priority: standards, recommendations, notes and miscellaneous. PRESENTATION MATERIALS Any presentation materials sent to Steven by Monday 9am will be posted on the workshop website, and this will streamline the presentation process. If possible, please bring your presentation on a floppy disk, in case we have problems hooking up your laptop. The conference room is equipped with a networked MSWindows PC and LCD projector, with provision for laptop hookup. INFORMAL GATHERING ON MONDAY NIGHT >From 7pm onwards, there will be an informal gathering at the New Deck Tavern, a nice bar/restaurant on 3408 Sansom Street. Sansom runs between Chestnut (where the hotel is located) and Walnut (where the workshop venue is located). In case we're seated out of sight, ask for the OLAC group. Hope to see you there! Wishing you a safe journey, Steven & Gary From ailla at AILLA.ORG Wed Dec 4 15:36:24 2002 From: ailla at AILLA.ORG (Heidi Johnson) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:36:24 -0600 Subject: Resource Access In-Reply-To: <00a401c299ba$98c43f00$c800000a@50bneave.net> Message-ID: Baden Hughes wrote: > Currently I'm working on a repository which differential access controls > applied to resources within the repository. After looking at the OLAC > standards documents, the closest reference I can see to this is > OLAC-Rights, which I can't find a draft for. However, based on the olac > Metadata set, even the Rights element doesn't quite address this > problem. > > Essentially we have a situation where for every resource there is a > specified access control (open, enquire, closed) with some further > refinements (open for reading, changes require permission, not for > redistribution etc). > > Although we could create our own metadata extension to express this, I > wonder if others have found other ways to address this, or if it is > something new which we should add in some way to OLAC ? The OLAC-Rights vocabulary is intended as a guide to the user seeking some resource. It just provides a rough indication of how accessible a given resource is, so they can decide if it suits their purpose before pursuing it further. We assumed that archives would have all sorts of archive-specific controls and restrictions, and didn't try to cover all the possibilities in the Rights vocabulary. For example, TalkBank has 9 levels of restriction, and as I understand it, AIATSIS has a more complicated case-by-case evaluation process, governed by the copyrights in the resource. On the other hand, it's a very small vocabulary and could certainly be expanded, if people think that would be more useful. At AILLA, our security protocols require users to log in to our archive in order to access ANY resource, so we can have an electronic record of their having agreed to our conditions of use of archive resources. Users can read metadata through OLAC or anywhere, but they have to come to our interface to actually retrieve something. Most of our stuff will be free public access (Rights = standard), but we also have 3 different "levels" of restriction - really, three different protocols, not tied to the intended use of the materials, but to who is the designated permission-granter. Any resource governed by any of those protocols would simply be described as Rights = restricted, with a short prose description of the nature of the restriction. So the OLAC vocabulary works fine for us, since we just map our more complex scheme on to the simple vocabulary. -- Heidi Johnson, PhD. ailla at ailla.org Project Manager www.ailla.org The University of Texas at Austin Archive of the Indigenous Languages of Latin America Dept. of Anthropology, EPS 1.130 1 University Station C3200 (512) 495-4604 Austin, Texas 78712-1086 From martin.wynne at OTA.AHDS.AC.UK Fri Dec 6 12:04:55 2002 From: martin.wynne at OTA.AHDS.AC.UK (Martin Wynne) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:04:55 -0000 Subject: Apologies Message-ID: Steven, I'm afraid I won't be able to come next week after all. I've injured my back, and hae been off work all week. I was hoping to have recovered by now, but it is no better, and I will be unable to fly. Unfortunately, the short notice means that none of my colleagues will be able to attend in my place. Sorry about the inconvenience this will cause. Please pass on my apologies to Laurel and thank her for her efforts to get me a room. Best, Martin -----Original Message----- From: Steven Bird [mailto:sb at UNAGI.CIS.UPENN.EDU] Sent: 04 December 2002 11:21 To: OLAC-IMPLEMENTERS at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG Subject: Final preparation for OLAC workshop Folks, Here are some final announcements about the workshop. FINDING YOUR WAY AROUND Consider printing out some of the maps on our venue page before you travel: http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/venue.html Also, see the local arrangements page for instructions on airport transfers, or for travel by train or car. http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/local.html Summary: $20 gets you a taxi from the airport to the University Sheraton on Chestnut and 36th; ask at the desk how to find IRCS at Walnut and 34th; we're on the 4th floor. LAST-MINUTE PREPARATION Please review the documents on our preparation page, which provide the necessary background for our discussions. You might bring them along for light reading on the plane :-) We'll have hardcopies available for all participants at the meeting. http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/preparation.html They're organized in order of priority: standards, recommendations, notes and miscellaneous. PRESENTATION MATERIALS Any presentation materials sent to Steven by Monday 9am will be posted on the workshop website, and this will streamline the presentation process. If possible, please bring your presentation on a floppy disk, in case we have problems hooking up your laptop. The conference room is equipped with a networked MSWindows PC and LCD projector, with provision for laptop hookup. INFORMAL GATHERING ON MONDAY NIGHT >From 7pm onwards, there will be an informal gathering at the New Deck Tavern, a nice bar/restaurant on 3408 Sansom Street. Sansom runs between Chestnut (where the hotel is located) and Walnut (where the workshop venue is located). In case we're seated out of sight, ask for the OLAC group. Hope to see you there! Wishing you a safe journey, Steven & Gary From sb at UNAGI.CIS.UPENN.EDU Fri Dec 13 22:28:52 2002 From: sb at UNAGI.CIS.UPENN.EDU (Steven Bird) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:28:52 EST Subject: Workshop Presentations Message-ID: Thanks for a great workshop! I hope everyone arrived home safely. As promised, workshop presentations are now posted on our website, in both Powerpoint and PDF format: http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/program.html Note especially the "new tasks" document, the single page listing tasks and names created during our final lunchtime session. If I've left anything off, please send it to me and I'll add it. Thanks, Steven Bird From baden at COMPULING.NET Mon Dec 2 04:23:40 2002 From: baden at COMPULING.NET (Baden Hughes) Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2002 14:23:40 +1000 Subject: Resource Access Message-ID: Currently I'm working on a repository which differential access controls applied to resources within the repository. After looking at the OLAC standards documents, the closest reference I can see to this is OLAC-Rights, which I can't find a draft for. However, based on the olac Metadata set, even the Rights element doesn't quite address this problem. Essentially we have a situation where for every resource there is a specified access control (open, enquire, closed) with some further refinements (open for reading, changes require permission, not for redistribution etc). Although we could create our own metadata extension to express this, I wonder if others have found other ways to address this, or if it is something new which we should add in some way to OLAC ? Baden From Gary_Simons at SIL.ORG Mon Dec 2 05:00:35 2002 From: Gary_Simons at SIL.ORG (Gary Simons) Date: Sun, 1 Dec 2002 23:00:35 -0600 Subject: Resource Access Message-ID: Baden, There is now a document describing the proposed four-way rights vocabulary that we will review next week in the Philadelphia workshop. Your feedback on this, as you attempt to apply it to your collection, will be most helpful. It is at: http://www.language-archives.org/REC/access.html -Gary From Gary_Simons at SIL.ORG Tue Dec 3 23:31:31 2002 From: Gary_Simons at SIL.ORG (Gary Simons) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 17:31:31 -0600 Subject: New draft of OLAC metadata standard Message-ID: Dear all, Our workshop is fast approaching! One of the things we will be discussing is the proposal for the version 1.0 OLAC metadata standard which includes an extension mechanism. Steven and I had previously presented the basic ideas for discussion in this list, but have finally completed a draft of a document describing the proposed standard. It is posted at: http://www.language-archives.org/drafts/metadata.html A related document that lists the extensions that are being proposed as OLAC Recommendations is also available at: http://www.language-archives.org/drafts/olac-extensions.html Links to these documents now appear on the workshop preparation page: http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/preparation.html See you soon, -Gary _______________ Open Language Archives Community (http://www.language-archives.org) Steven Bird (University of Melbourne) and Gary Simons (SIL International) olac-admin at language-archives.org From sb at UNAGI.CIS.UPENN.EDU Wed Dec 4 11:20:54 2002 From: sb at UNAGI.CIS.UPENN.EDU (Steven Bird) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 06:20:54 EST Subject: Final preparation for OLAC workshop Message-ID: Folks, Here are some final announcements about the workshop. FINDING YOUR WAY AROUND Consider printing out some of the maps on our venue page before you travel: http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/venue.html Also, see the local arrangements page for instructions on airport transfers, or for travel by train or car. http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/local.html Summary: $20 gets you a taxi from the airport to the University Sheraton on Chestnut and 36th; ask at the desk how to find IRCS at Walnut and 34th; we're on the 4th floor. LAST-MINUTE PREPARATION Please review the documents on our preparation page, which provide the necessary background for our discussions. You might bring them along for light reading on the plane :-) We'll have hardcopies available for all participants at the meeting. http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/preparation.html They're organized in order of priority: standards, recommendations, notes and miscellaneous. PRESENTATION MATERIALS Any presentation materials sent to Steven by Monday 9am will be posted on the workshop website, and this will streamline the presentation process. If possible, please bring your presentation on a floppy disk, in case we have problems hooking up your laptop. The conference room is equipped with a networked MSWindows PC and LCD projector, with provision for laptop hookup. INFORMAL GATHERING ON MONDAY NIGHT >From 7pm onwards, there will be an informal gathering at the New Deck Tavern, a nice bar/restaurant on 3408 Sansom Street. Sansom runs between Chestnut (where the hotel is located) and Walnut (where the workshop venue is located). In case we're seated out of sight, ask for the OLAC group. Hope to see you there! Wishing you a safe journey, Steven & Gary From ailla at AILLA.ORG Wed Dec 4 15:36:24 2002 From: ailla at AILLA.ORG (Heidi Johnson) Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 09:36:24 -0600 Subject: Resource Access In-Reply-To: <00a401c299ba$98c43f00$c800000a@50bneave.net> Message-ID: Baden Hughes wrote: > Currently I'm working on a repository which differential access controls > applied to resources within the repository. After looking at the OLAC > standards documents, the closest reference I can see to this is > OLAC-Rights, which I can't find a draft for. However, based on the olac > Metadata set, even the Rights element doesn't quite address this > problem. > > Essentially we have a situation where for every resource there is a > specified access control (open, enquire, closed) with some further > refinements (open for reading, changes require permission, not for > redistribution etc). > > Although we could create our own metadata extension to express this, I > wonder if others have found other ways to address this, or if it is > something new which we should add in some way to OLAC ? The OLAC-Rights vocabulary is intended as a guide to the user seeking some resource. It just provides a rough indication of how accessible a given resource is, so they can decide if it suits their purpose before pursuing it further. We assumed that archives would have all sorts of archive-specific controls and restrictions, and didn't try to cover all the possibilities in the Rights vocabulary. For example, TalkBank has 9 levels of restriction, and as I understand it, AIATSIS has a more complicated case-by-case evaluation process, governed by the copyrights in the resource. On the other hand, it's a very small vocabulary and could certainly be expanded, if people think that would be more useful. At AILLA, our security protocols require users to log in to our archive in order to access ANY resource, so we can have an electronic record of their having agreed to our conditions of use of archive resources. Users can read metadata through OLAC or anywhere, but they have to come to our interface to actually retrieve something. Most of our stuff will be free public access (Rights = standard), but we also have 3 different "levels" of restriction - really, three different protocols, not tied to the intended use of the materials, but to who is the designated permission-granter. Any resource governed by any of those protocols would simply be described as Rights = restricted, with a short prose description of the nature of the restriction. So the OLAC vocabulary works fine for us, since we just map our more complex scheme on to the simple vocabulary. -- Heidi Johnson, PhD. ailla at ailla.org Project Manager www.ailla.org The University of Texas at Austin Archive of the Indigenous Languages of Latin America Dept. of Anthropology, EPS 1.130 1 University Station C3200 (512) 495-4604 Austin, Texas 78712-1086 From martin.wynne at OTA.AHDS.AC.UK Fri Dec 6 12:04:55 2002 From: martin.wynne at OTA.AHDS.AC.UK (Martin Wynne) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 12:04:55 -0000 Subject: Apologies Message-ID: Steven, I'm afraid I won't be able to come next week after all. I've injured my back, and hae been off work all week. I was hoping to have recovered by now, but it is no better, and I will be unable to fly. Unfortunately, the short notice means that none of my colleagues will be able to attend in my place. Sorry about the inconvenience this will cause. Please pass on my apologies to Laurel and thank her for her efforts to get me a room. Best, Martin -----Original Message----- From: Steven Bird [mailto:sb at UNAGI.CIS.UPENN.EDU] Sent: 04 December 2002 11:21 To: OLAC-IMPLEMENTERS at LISTSERV.LINGUISTLIST.ORG Subject: Final preparation for OLAC workshop Folks, Here are some final announcements about the workshop. FINDING YOUR WAY AROUND Consider printing out some of the maps on our venue page before you travel: http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/venue.html Also, see the local arrangements page for instructions on airport transfers, or for travel by train or car. http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/local.html Summary: $20 gets you a taxi from the airport to the University Sheraton on Chestnut and 36th; ask at the desk how to find IRCS at Walnut and 34th; we're on the 4th floor. LAST-MINUTE PREPARATION Please review the documents on our preparation page, which provide the necessary background for our discussions. You might bring them along for light reading on the plane :-) We'll have hardcopies available for all participants at the meeting. http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/preparation.html They're organized in order of priority: standards, recommendations, notes and miscellaneous. PRESENTATION MATERIALS Any presentation materials sent to Steven by Monday 9am will be posted on the workshop website, and this will streamline the presentation process. If possible, please bring your presentation on a floppy disk, in case we have problems hooking up your laptop. The conference room is equipped with a networked MSWindows PC and LCD projector, with provision for laptop hookup. INFORMAL GATHERING ON MONDAY NIGHT >From 7pm onwards, there will be an informal gathering at the New Deck Tavern, a nice bar/restaurant on 3408 Sansom Street. Sansom runs between Chestnut (where the hotel is located) and Walnut (where the workshop venue is located). In case we're seated out of sight, ask for the OLAC group. Hope to see you there! Wishing you a safe journey, Steven & Gary From sb at UNAGI.CIS.UPENN.EDU Fri Dec 13 22:28:52 2002 From: sb at UNAGI.CIS.UPENN.EDU (Steven Bird) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:28:52 EST Subject: Workshop Presentations Message-ID: Thanks for a great workshop! I hope everyone arrived home safely. As promised, workshop presentations are now posted on our website, in both Powerpoint and PDF format: http://www.language-archives.org/events/olac02/program.html Note especially the "new tasks" document, the single page listing tasks and names created during our final lunchtime session. If I've left anything off, please send it to me and I'll add it. Thanks, Steven Bird