From greg.hedlund at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 09:45:25 2019 From: greg.hedlund at gmail.com (Greg Hedlund) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 11:15:25 -0230 Subject: Exporting syllabification In-Reply-To: <4c0bdec3-043d-4e49-bce6-97062386318d@googlegroups.com> References: <0F4440CE-D93E-4275-AD05-8CE47F029394@gmail.com> <4c0bdec3-043d-4e49-bce6-97062386318d@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <0fa359d1-d918-23d7-bef4-58f7f0ebe9ef@gmail.com> Hey Philip, On 07/30/19 20:40, Philip Combiths wrote: > This is right along the lines of what I was thinking of, thank you > very much Greg. > > My follow-up question (and I might be pushing my luck here) is this: > Is Phon capable of importing syllabification (in the IPA Target/Actual > Syllabified format or some other format) alongside orthography and > transcription tiers from a CSV file? Yes - if you use the new 'Syllabified' columns in your CSV import instead of the plain IPA columns the syllabification information will also be imported. Cheers, -Greg > > Thank you, > Philip > > > On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 3:57:43 PM UTC-7, ghedlund wrote: > > Hello Phillip, > > Not sure if this what you need but you can export a copy of the > IPA tiers which include constituent type tags using: > > Tier: IPA Target Syllabified > or > Tier: IPA Actual Syllabified > > as a CSV export column. > > E.g., > Speaker:Name Orthography IPA Target IPA Actual Segment Notes > IPA Target Syllabified > Christine [what do you sing] [at birthday parties? .] [ˈwʌ̃t * > ˈjuː ˈsɪŋ] [ˈæt ˈbʌɹθˌdeɪ ˈpɑ͡u⁴ɹtiːz] [* * * *] [* * *] > 000:00.508-000:03.320 > [ˈw:Oʌ̃:Nt:C *:U ˈj:Ouː:D ˈs:Oɪ:Nŋ:C] [ˈæ:Nt:C > ˈb:Oʌ:Nɹ:Cθ:Cˌd:Oe:Dɪ:D ˈp:Oɑ͡u⁴:Nɹ:Ct:Oiː:Nz:C] > > > Cheers, > > -Greg > >> On Jul 30, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Philip Combiths > > wrote: >> >> No apologies needed! Phon does so much already :) And I think I >> can get what we need using the workaround you suggested. >> >> Thank you, >> Phil >> >> On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:55:22 AM UTC-7, Yvan Rose wrote: >> >> Hi Phil, >> I don't think this is possible, very sorry. We are currently >> exporting this information using mini graphs representing >> syllabification and alignment in Excel format, something >> incompatible with the CSV format. >> >> However, if you do a Phones query and export your results >> using the Listing by Session using the option represented in >> the attached screen shot, you will have a textual >> representation of syllabification and alignment within your >> report, something maybe you can work with? >> >> Please let me know if (some of) this helps! >> >> Yvan >> >> >>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Philip Combiths >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, I am interested in including the Target Syllable and >>> Actual Syllable tiers when exporting a session as CSV. I am >>> able to export the alignment by adding "Tier:Alignment" to >>> the list of export columns, but I haven't found how to call >>> upon and export the syllable tiers. Is this possible? >>> >>> Thank you very much, >>> >>> -Philip >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> Google Groups "Phon" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>> from it, send an email to ph... at googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/de918d62-234e-48fe-93cb-0221b7304e0d%40googlegroups.com >>> . >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google Groups "Phon" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to ph... at googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/f3d08804-64f5-425c-a72a-d7d87523cda1%40googlegroups.com >> . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Phon" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to phon+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/4c0bdec3-043d-4e49-bce6-97062386318d%40googlegroups.com > . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Phon" group. 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URL: From philcombiths at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 18:00:21 2019 From: philcombiths at gmail.com (Philip Combiths) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 15:00:21 -0700 Subject: Exporting syllabification In-Reply-To: <0fa359d1-d918-23d7-bef4-58f7f0ebe9ef@gmail.com> References: <0F4440CE-D93E-4275-AD05-8CE47F029394@gmail.com> <4c0bdec3-043d-4e49-bce6-97062386318d@googlegroups.com> <0fa359d1-d918-23d7-bef4-58f7f0ebe9ef@gmail.com> Message-ID: This is great, thank you both so much. -Philip On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 6:45 AM Greg Hedlund wrote: > Hey Philip, > On 07/30/19 20:40, Philip Combiths wrote: > > This is right along the lines of what I was thinking of, thank you very > much Greg. > > My follow-up question (and I might be pushing my luck here) is this: Is > Phon capable of importing syllabification (in the IPA Target/Actual > Syllabified format or some other format) alongside orthography and > transcription tiers from a CSV file? > > Yes - if you use the new 'Syllabified' columns in your CSV import instead > of the plain IPA columns the syllabification information will also be > imported. > > Cheers, > > -Greg > > > > Thank you, > Philip > > > On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 3:57:43 PM UTC-7, ghedlund wrote: >> >> Hello Phillip, >> >> Not sure if this what you need but you can export a copy of the IPA tiers >> which include constituent type tags using: >> >> Tier: IPA Target Syllabified >> or >> Tier: IPA Actual Syllabified >> >> as a CSV export column. >> >> E.g., >> Speaker:Name Orthography IPA Target IPA Actual Segment Notes IPA Target >> Syllabified >> Christine [what do you sing] [at birthday parties? .] [ˈwʌ̃t * ˈjuː >> ˈsɪŋ] [ˈæt ˈbʌɹθˌdeɪ ˈpɑ͡u⁴ɹtiːz] [* * * *] [* * *] 000:00.508-000:03.320 >> [ˈw:Oʌ̃:Nt:C *:U ˈj:Ouː:D ˈs:Oɪ:Nŋ:C] [ˈæ:Nt:C ˈb:Oʌ:Nɹ:Cθ:Cˌd:Oe:Dɪ:D >> ˈp:Oɑ͡u⁴:Nɹ:Ct:Oiː:Nz:C] >> >> Cheers, >> >> -Greg >> >> On Jul 30, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Philip Combiths wrote: >> >> No apologies needed! Phon does so much already :) And I think I can get >> what we need using the workaround you suggested. >> >> Thank you, >> Phil >> >> On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:55:22 AM UTC-7, Yvan Rose wrote: >>> >>> Hi Phil, >>> I don't think this is possible, very sorry. We are currently exporting >>> this information using mini graphs representing syllabification and >>> alignment in Excel format, something incompatible with the CSV format. >>> >>> However, if you do a Phones query and export your results using the >>> Listing by Session using the option represented in the attached screen >>> shot, you will have a textual representation of syllabification and >>> alignment within your report, something maybe you can work with? >>> >>> Please let me know if (some of) this helps! >>> >>> Yvan >>> >>> >>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Philip Combiths >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, I am interested in including the Target Syllable and Actual >>> Syllable tiers when exporting a session as CSV. I am able to export the >>> alignment by adding "Tier:Alignment" to the list of export columns, but I >>> haven't found how to call upon and export the syllable tiers. Is this >>> possible? >>> >>> Thank you very much, >>> >>> -Philip >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Phon" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to ph... at googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/de918d62-234e-48fe-93cb-0221b7304e0d%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Phon" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ph... at googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/f3d08804-64f5-425c-a72a-d7d87523cda1%40googlegroups.com >> >> . >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Phon" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to phon+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/4c0bdec3-043d-4e49-bce6-97062386318d%40googlegroups.com > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Phon" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to phon+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/0fa359d1-d918-23d7-bef4-58f7f0ebe9ef%40gmail.com > > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Phon" group. 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URL: From greg.hedlund at gmail.com Thu Aug 1 13:45:25 2019 From: greg.hedlund at gmail.com (Greg Hedlund) Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2019 11:15:25 -0230 Subject: Exporting syllabification In-Reply-To: <4c0bdec3-043d-4e49-bce6-97062386318d@googlegroups.com> References: <0F4440CE-D93E-4275-AD05-8CE47F029394@gmail.com> <4c0bdec3-043d-4e49-bce6-97062386318d@googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <0fa359d1-d918-23d7-bef4-58f7f0ebe9ef@gmail.com> Hey Philip, On 07/30/19 20:40, Philip Combiths wrote: > This is right along the lines of what I was thinking of, thank you > very much Greg. > > My follow-up question (and I might be pushing my luck here) is this: > Is Phon capable of importing syllabification (in the IPA Target/Actual > Syllabified format or some other format) alongside orthography and > transcription tiers from a CSV file? Yes - if you use the new 'Syllabified' columns in your CSV import instead of the plain IPA columns the syllabification information will also be imported. Cheers, -Greg > > Thank you, > Philip > > > On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 3:57:43 PM UTC-7, ghedlund wrote: > > Hello Phillip, > > Not sure if this what you need but you can export a copy of the > IPA tiers which include constituent type tags using: > > Tier: IPA Target Syllabified > or > Tier: IPA Actual Syllabified > > as a CSV export column. > > E.g., > Speaker:Name Orthography IPA Target IPA Actual Segment Notes > IPA Target Syllabified > Christine [what do you sing] [at birthday parties? .] [?w??t * > ?ju? ?s??] [??t ?b????de? ?p??u??ti?z] [* * * *] [* * *] > 000:00.508-000:03.320 > [?w:O??:Nt:C *:U ?j:Ou?:D ?s:O?:N?:C] [??:Nt:C > ?b:O?:N?:C?:C?d:Oe:D?:D ?p:O??u?:N?:Ct:Oi?:Nz:C] > > > Cheers, > > -Greg > >> On Jul 30, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Philip Combiths > > wrote: >> >> No apologies needed! Phon does so much already :) And I think I >> can get what we need using the workaround you suggested. >> >> Thank you, >> Phil >> >> On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:55:22 AM UTC-7, Yvan Rose wrote: >> >> Hi Phil, >> I don't think this is possible, very sorry. We are currently >> exporting this information using mini graphs representing >> syllabification and alignment in Excel format, something >> incompatible with the CSV format. >> >> However, if you do a Phones query and export your results >> using the Listing by Session using the option represented in >> the attached screen shot, you will have a textual >> representation of syllabification and alignment within your >> report, something maybe you can work with? >> >> Please let me know if (some of) this helps! >> >> Yvan >> >> >>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Philip Combiths >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, I am interested in including the Target Syllable and >>> Actual Syllable tiers when exporting a session as CSV. I am >>> able to export the alignment by adding "Tier:Alignment" to >>> the list of export columns, but I haven't found how to call >>> upon and export the syllable tiers. Is this possible? >>> >>> Thank you very much, >>> >>> -Philip >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>> Google Groups "Phon" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails >>> from it, send an email to ph... at googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/de918d62-234e-48fe-93cb-0221b7304e0d%40googlegroups.com >>> . >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >> Google Groups "Phon" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to ph... at googlegroups.com . >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/f3d08804-64f5-425c-a72a-d7d87523cda1%40googlegroups.com >> . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Phon" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an email to phon+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com > . > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/4c0bdec3-043d-4e49-bce6-97062386318d%40googlegroups.com > . -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Phon" group. 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Phon does so much already :) And I think I can get >> what we need using the workaround you suggested. >> >> Thank you, >> Phil >> >> On Tuesday, July 30, 2019 at 9:55:22 AM UTC-7, Yvan Rose wrote: >>> >>> Hi Phil, >>> I don't think this is possible, very sorry. We are currently exporting >>> this information using mini graphs representing syllabification and >>> alignment in Excel format, something incompatible with the CSV format. >>> >>> However, if you do a Phones query and export your results using the >>> Listing by Session using the option represented in the attached screen >>> shot, you will have a textual representation of syllabification and >>> alignment within your report, something maybe you can work with? >>> >>> Please let me know if (some of) this helps! >>> >>> Yvan >>> >>> >>> On Jul 30, 2019, at 1:35 PM, Philip Combiths >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hello, I am interested in including the Target Syllable and Actual >>> Syllable tiers when exporting a session as CSV. I am able to export the >>> alignment by adding "Tier:Alignment" to the list of export columns, but I >>> haven't found how to call upon and export the syllable tiers. Is this >>> possible? >>> >>> Thank you very much, >>> >>> -Philip >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Phon" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to ph... at googlegroups.com. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/de918d62-234e-48fe-93cb-0221b7304e0d%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> . >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Phon" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to ph... at googlegroups.com. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/f3d08804-64f5-425c-a72a-d7d87523cda1%40googlegroups.com >> >> . >> >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Phon" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to phon+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/4c0bdec3-043d-4e49-bce6-97062386318d%40googlegroups.com > > . > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Phon" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to phon+unsubscribe at googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/phon/0fa359d1-d918-23d7-bef4-58f7f0ebe9ef%40gmail.com > > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Phon" group. 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