unintelligible words/custom symbols/PCC

amywilder1 at gmail.com amywilder1 at gmail.com
Fri Feb 16 17:10:07 UTC 2024


One more quick question:

Is there a symbol in Phon for ingressive airflow? I haven't been able to
locate it on the IPA map.

[image: image.png]

Thanks,

Amy

On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 8:59 AM amywilder1 at gmail.com <amywilder1 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thank you for the quick response. This is all very helpful.
>
> Best,
> Amy
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2024 at 5:16 AM Yvan Rose <yvan.rose at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello Amy,
>> Welcome to the PhonBank community, and thank you for your questions. I
>> interleave my replies below:
>>
>> 1- What is the best way to hand an unintelligible word or part of a word.
>> (we would not want this to be counted as an error)?
>>
>>
>> There are two main ways:
>>
>> A) Mark the record as 'excluded'. This will void the record by default
>> for all analyses.
>> B) In the context of a part-word you may want to keep for analysis,
>> change the target to the relevant part of what the word should be.
>>
>> 2- Is there a way to add your own custom symbols?
>>
>>
>> Not really, as we need valid transcriptions to be able to generate
>> analyses. (On this note, if you see a flag to the right of a transcription
>> tier, there is something that needs fixing with this transcription.)
>>
>> But you can probably adapt some of the symbols we already support to
>> encode your observations. In this regard, I would need a sense of that the
>> use cases might be. Please follow up about this.
>>
>> 3- When running reports such as PCC, is there a way to have
>> voiced/unvoiced cognates not be counted as an error in final position?
>> (e.g., /glæsɪs/ have the final s for z not be counted as incorrect?)
>>
>>
>> What I see is we would need options to ignore sound components such as
>> 'place', 'manner', and 'voicing' (the latter your use case). Unfortunately
>> we don't have this at the moment, but we're taking good note of the idea!
>>
>> In the meantime, you can add the 'distorted' diacritic to these phones --
>> this will mark them as 'correct' by default for analytic purposes.
>>
>> I hope you find this all useful!!
>>
>>
>> Kind regards,
>> Yvan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for you help!
>> Amy Wilder
>>
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