<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hi Jon,</div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thank you for your useful suggestion, and Greg for ticketing it already. <div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Key to this and our blind system in general, is to decide what information should be </div><div class=""><ul class=""><li class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>blind with validation - current IPA Target and Actual tiers</li><li class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>blind without validation - ??</li><li class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre;"> </span>not blind and accessible through the blind interface -- all tiers except IPAs</li></ul></div><div class="">If I follow your request, you'd want an additional tier to be blind but then directly accessible to the remainder of the interface; else how do you want to access/process these data. Do you just want it visible as an additional prop during validation, or is there a use for it in the database afterwards?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Currently, validation merely maps the contents of the selected candidate transcription into our default IPA tiers within the Session Editor, which we can then adjust further (directly edit). I doubt you'd need this for the score tiers, but maybe I'm not getting something. Maybe you could tell us a bit more about these scores?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Thank you,</div><div class="">Yvan</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 1, 2021, at 7:26 AM, ghedlund <<a href="mailto:greg.hedlund@gmail.com" class="">greg.hedlund@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">Hello Jon,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I think this is a great idea, but not currently possible in Phon. The only tiers which are included in blind mode are the IPA Target/Actual tiers. I have created a new ticket (<a href="https://github.com/phon-ca/phon/issues/146" class="">https://github.com/phon-ca/phon/issues/146</a>) for this improvement, but I honestly cannot give you any timeline for the implementation.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Regards,</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Greg<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="auto" class="gmail_attr">On Sunday, February 28, 2021 at 3:04:42 PM UTC-3:30 Jonathan Preston wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0 0 0 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><br class=""><p style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none" class=""><span class="">Hi Yvan,<span class=""></span></span></p><div style="font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""> </span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none" class=""><span class="">I’m looking to create a tier that is blinded in Blind Transcription mode and that is resolved when the third transcriber goes to resolve the existing 2 transcribers' scores. Essentially, it would be another tier similar to the IPA Actual, except we want to add a numerical score (0, 1, 2). <span class=""></span></span></p><p style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none" class=""><span class="">The process would be something like: Create a new tier call “3-way score”, Transcriber 1 transcribers the IPA Target and Actual and also enters her score of 0 in the 3-way score tier, then Transcriber 2 transcribes in Blind mode the IPA Target and Actual and enters his score of 1 in the “3-way score” tier, then Transcriber 3 resolves the IPA Target, IPA Actual, and the score in the 3-way score tier.<span class=""></span></span></p><p style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none" class=""><span class="">I know we can create tiers and hide them, but I don’t see a way to keep separate data in those tiers during blind transcription mode. For example, the Notes tier will show any notes from Transcriber 1 when Transcriber 2 opens up the file, but I’d like to create another tier where the data are entered separately and then resolved. Is this possible?<span class=""></span></span></p><div style="font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""> </span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none" class=""><span class="">Thanks,<span class=""></span></span></p><p style="font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;text-decoration:none" class=""><span class="">Jon<span class=""></span></span></p><div style="font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span class=""><span class=""> </span></span><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div></blockquote></div><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div>
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