<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="overflow-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Hi Christophe,<div>Thank you, very much indeed for your input. If you could please send me the Phon file you're working with in a personal message (at yvan.rose@gmail.com). I'd like to see how we could address this. </div><div><br></div><div>The detail that puzzles me is that vowels and consonants should normally not align with one another; else it's in the detection of the V-C inversion that there is an issue. On this count, please know that Phon should not detect this phone inversion as a metathesis, which we define as a consonant-to-consonant relation. Yet this doesn't mean the process shouldn't be capture. <br id="lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br></div><div>All the best,</div><div>Yvan </div><div><br></div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Oct 9, 2025, at 3:57 PM, Christophe dos Santos <master.fle.1@gmail.com> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Dear Greg and Yvan,</div><div><br></div><div>I just wanted to report a strange count from Phon.</div><div><br></div><div>The target (non)-word is /filpa/.</div><div>The actual production is [flipa].</div><div><br></div><div>For this word, the only errors that were reported are :</div><div>The deletion of [i].</div><div>The epenthesis of an [i].</div><div><br></div><div>No migration/metathesis is reported for that record.</div><div>No error was reported for /l/ even though the sound is in the same situation as [i].</div><div><br></div>I suppose Phon worked from left to right and detected the deletion of the [i]. During the alignment process, /l/ took the place of the deleted [i]. Then, /l/ was in the right place and was not reported as deleted. Finally, after the production of [l], the insertion of [i] was detected.<br><br>Regarding the lack of a reported migration or metathesis, I imagine that no check is made between a consonant and a vowel.<br><br>I did not check if this inconsistency in the count (errors counted for [i] and not [l], no migration/metathesis) is limited to that non-word or if it applies to all words of the shape CV-Liquid.CV produced as C-Liquid-V.CV.<br><br>I hope this makes sense to you and helps improve Phon.<br><br>Best,<br><br>Christophe dos Santos
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