Solar panels

Post, Mark mark.post at jcu.edu.au
Thu Jan 27 16:01:26 UTC 2011


Hi All - 

I'll add two cents from the mountains, where I'm trying hard to be minimalist: Solar Traveller (UK) has come out with some reasonably good Li-ion batteries called "Power Gorillas" with lots of included adaptors (but make sure you get the right one for your laptop) and variable output 8v/9v/12v/19v/24v (would be nice to have a 5v, but oh well). I power a Lenovo x61 8cell to about 80% with one full charge, which gives me 5-8 hrs using Toolbox and MSWord on low-power mode (about 4-5 if transcribing), and if I had the money to buy one of the new solid-state Lenovos, I'd presumably have more. With two Power Gorillas, I have enough additional power for 12v AA/AAA and camcorder battery chargers via car lighter adaptors (included with the Gorillas), and don't need AC at all (so no inverter). And the Power Gorillas can take a 20v input, so I don't need a charge regulator (unlike with a lead acid battery). Power Gorillas are designed to work with 20w "Solar Gorilla" solar panels, which, however, in the mountains (no more than 5 hrs peak sun) don't give me enough charge even when daisy-chained. Also, I've found that they don't work well by directly-inputting into some laptops, despite that this is what they're designed for, especially when 19v laptops are powered-on. However, I've found that a 60w flexible panel well-placed charges one Solar Gorilla in about 3 hrs of peak sun, and another 1-2 hrs gives the other a good run. So far, I haven't run out of power yet, and I'm using everything pretty heavily. 

So the setup I'd recommend for people interested in avoiding lead acid batteries and firm solar panels is:

1) 60w flexible panel
2) 1 or 2 Power Gorillas, depending on peak sun hours at field site, plus any add'l adaptors needed
3) 12v chargers with car lighter adaptor cables for AA/AAA and camcorder batteries, of which cheap copies (buy some backups!) are available on Ebay etc.

The whole setup weighs about 2-3kg not including whatever laptop you have, but is a bit pricey at about AUD $1000-1400 depending on where you buy everything. So it is really a reasonably well-funded fieldworker's set up rather than a practical community-oriented solution.

One additional point is that this setup doesn't work very well for Mac users, as Macs can only run off the Power Gorillas (via a car lighter adaptor), and can't charge the internal battery. This seems to be an Apple design quirk which probably won't go away.

Cheers from Arunachal,

Mark


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From: r-n-l-d at unimelb.edu.au [r-n-l-d at unimelb.edu.au] On Behalf Of Xavier Barker [meibitobure.gaunibwe at gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 5:44 AM
To: Aidan Wilson
Cc: r-n-l-d
Subject: Re: Solar panels

Spot on!  Check him out on http://www.servalproject.org/
<http://www.servalproject.org/>

On 27/01/2011, at 10:56 AM, Aidan Wilson wrote:

This (the stuff on the finemespot.com<http://finemespot.com> website, not the lab-in-the-case stuff) seems reminiscent of an invention I saw on the New Inventors (ABC Australia) about this system, in which a portable mobile coverage tower is rolled out to areas after disasters (Haiti was the most recent disaster at the time and was the cited example) which would allow people to connect to one another and call emergency numbers while the normal towers are non-functional. The benefit of the system was that users retained their regular numbers and could therefore call one another in the effectively closed system. And calls inside the cell network are free since it never goes to a telco.

I'm going entirely off memory here, so I might be getting a couple of details wrong, and can't remember what it's called. And I'm also getting significantly off-topic...

--
Aidan Wilson

PhD Candidate
Dept of Linguistics and Applied Linguistics
The University of Melbourne

+61428 458 969
aidan.wilson at unimelb.edu.au<mailto:aidan.wilson at unimelb.edu.au>

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011, Xavier Barker wrote:

Hi all,
As always, i can offer no practical fieldwork advice, but...
Our company provides small mobile internet connected computer labs in a suitcase (or, rather, pelican case) to a number of schools
in off-grid parts of Uganda.  We fit 11 netbooks with 9 cell batteries and a single loom charger.  Most netbooks are designed to
draw 19V, but we have no problem at all fitting the loom directly to a 12V battery and providing DC power.  With this
lab-in-a-case, we are able to provide fully internet-connected(3G/gprs/edge/sat (with a SPOT
(http://www.findmespot.com/en/index.php?cid=116)) to places that have no power.  The system is able to be used for about 5 hours
without a charge, but a whole day oif trickle charging from solar.  Whilst this solution works for getting everything charged at a
base station where solar panels can be permanently fixed, there are also a number of really good portable options. Keeping in mind that the netbooks will run fine on 12V DC (as will small desktop PCs like the Eee Box which can be fitted with a DC
LCD monitor), it is possible to rig a 12V folding solar panel directly to the charger of the netbook.  Suntech make small folding
60W 12V panels but they still weigh about 15kg - not great for lugging around.  ALternatively, and much better if weight is a
concern, is the 20W solar-charging laptop bag
(http://www.multipoweredproducts.com.au/products/Voltaic-Generator-%252d-Solar-Laptop-Charger-Bag.html).  This bag has batteries
which will bring your netbook up to a full charge in a day, provided you get about 5 hours of sunlight.  It's probably not going to
be enough to charge a full-sized laptop though.  It also has outputs for you to connect 5V USB devices and car-plug options.   This
means you can plug in a caravan/car/camping style lamp into the case at night and give yourself plenty of power. Cheers,
Xavier
On 27/01/2011, at 4:06 AM, Jeremy Hammond wrote:

     Hi All,

     I am pretty much in agreement with Tom and have being successfully doing a
     similar setup for the past 3 years in Vanuatu. I also buy lead acid
     battery in-situ but am considering getting a solar-specific one this year
     if I can find it in Port Vila. I'll just add 3 points.

     1. Buy a universal battery charger. They are great and means you can
     really cut down on the amount of chargers you have to take (I.e.
     phone/Camera/AA/video/AAA/USB are all doable with mine). Here is one
     http://www.solartechnology.co.uk/shop/camcaddy-cc1005.htm but there are
     different brands/models. You can buy them at most camera stores. I just
     have two of these for all my charging needs (plus my laptop charger of
     course).

     2. Consider getting solid panels. If you have easy enough access to your
     fieldsite and have a long term relationship with them then it is an easy
     process to take it there and set it up on a roof etc. I usually take a
     solid 50W panel with me each time I go so that now I have around 150W
     which should be above 200W this coming year. They are super strong, and
     great long term value. Plus now I leave them there setup with LEDs on the
     battery so that people there can use the light at night, even when I'm not
     there.

     3. While tom suggested the "workman's" light and they are good, if you are
     electrically handy then making your own LED setup is really inexpensive
     and easy. There are some great yellow ones that are good for
     reading/working by as well. On that note as Tom said, test your setup but
     also understand how it works. Get a friend who knows something about
     electronics to explain it to you and when things go wrong, you will be in
     a much better position to fix it.

     Jeremy

     -------------------------------
     Jeremy Hammond
     Syntax, Typology and Information Structure Group
     Max Planck Institute for Psycholinguistics
     P: +31-24-3521171
     E: Jeremy.Hammond at mpi.nl
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     On 26/01/11 7:27 AM, "Tom Honeyman" <t.honeyman at gmail.com> wrote:

           Hi Jeff,

           Despite the negative "reality check" at the end of the paper Pat

           mentions (thanks Pat!, also the paper supersedes the blog posts, but

           thanks Peter!), I am now quite happily using solar power for fieldwork

           in Papua New Guinea.

           My current setup (well actually I've dropped/genericised/forgotten a

           few items to simplify!):

           1 low power netbook (they're all almost exactly the same)

           2x DC adapter for netbook, but also adapters to charge USB devices,

           mobile phones etc also very good

           2x Li-Ion battery pack chargers (for camera, video camera etc... can

           be very handy)

           1x DC-DC adapter with multiple plugs (very handy for powering all

           sorts of things if you know what you're doing)

           DC plug adaptors (so I can plug in many things at once)

           50W foldable solar panel

           charge regulator with load cut-off

           10x AA NiMH AA batteries

           8x AA NiMH AAA batteries

           1x AA/AAA battery charger (charges 10 batteries at once, each

           individually)

           1x AA/AAA battery charger (charges 4 batteries in pairs - this can be

           a pain if you have a device that uses 3 batteries!)

           Head torch and mag-lite - make sure they work with rechargeables!

           Often they don't work well with them.

           12v/DC workman's light, fluro or LED based, low power consumption

           (these are really good for a lot of light!)

           All the regular equipment otherwise (recorders, speakers, mike,

           cameras, etc), but make sure they work well with rechargeables).

           And then I also pack the following for fixing stuff (but only if you

           know what you're doing):

           fuses, glass and blade with several spares for each device that has one

           pack of alligator clip wires

           Gaffer tape (often available in country)

           digital multi-meter

           pocket knife

           jeweller's screw driver set

           super glue (often available in country)

           I tend to buy a (preferably deep cycle) lead acid battery in country.

           This let me work for a few hours a day on the laptop, use torches/

           flashlights at night, and put on a "movie night" once a week. Every

           now and then an activity might come along (like a big recording

           session, or very rainy weather, or on one occasion my roof blowing

           off!), which would drain the battery too much. Then I'd have a day or

           two not using the laptop (far and away the most power hungry).

           4 things I'd recommend:

           (a) check _everything_ beforehand. There are many "single points of

           failure" in a solar setup. That's why its good to have backups, or

           multiple ways of achieving the same thing.

           (b) get a charge regulator with a load cut off. This magical box will:

           - ensure that the battery is charged properly, dropping the power as

           it approaches a full charge and cutting the power entirely when the

           battery is full

           - stop power flowing back into the panel at night (this is often

           redundant depending on the panel)

           - cut the power to your devices when the battery is too low

           Basically this will let you safely run your equipment, but it'll

           ensure that the battery doesn't fail because you've drained it too

           much... this is something that is _very_ easy to do. If you know what

           you're doing then you can drop this, but you'll spend more time

           managing your power setup and less doing work.

           (c) try to eliminate using AC power. This is costly. I guarantee that

           you will not have enough power to do all the things that you'd like to

           do. So this means do not use "wall adapter" plug equipment, use "car

           adapters" for all of your equipment. The DC adapters for charging a

           laptop can often power other equipment. The DC-DC adapter is extremely

           useful for powering low power equipment. Having these flexible, multi-

           plug adaptors can be very useful for unexpected scenarios like

           powering a cassette recorder you've borrowed because your audio

           equipment fell in the river. Or powering your recorder directly

           because your batteries or battery chargers have failed for some reason.

           (d) check that the AA/AAA powered equipment works, and works well with

           rechargeable batteries. Rechargeables operate at a lower voltage than

           Alkaline batteries. A lot of equipment is designed for use with

           Alkaline batteries, and even though initially they may work fine,

           later in the field you may discover that they have a (seemingly) short

           life. Digital cameras often are designed to work with rechargeables

           these days (sometimes they last longer with rechargeables), but

           torches/flashlights for instance are often not.

           Hope this helps,

           Tom

           On 26/01/2011, at 3:48 PM, Patrick Hall wrote:

                 Hi,

                 Honeyman also coauthored a paper with Laura Robinson on this topic in

                 LD&C which might be of use:

                 Honeyman, Tom & Laura C. Robinson. 2007. Solar power for the digital

                 fieldworker. Language Documentation & Conservation 1(1): 17-27.

                 It's available online:

                 http://hdl.handle.net/10125/1722

                 cheers,

                 Pat




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