: [RNLD] Links between publication and sound corpus

Aidan Wilson aidan.wilson at UNIMELB.EDU.AU
Tue Mar 19 01:12:35 UTC 2013

To return this thread to the original point then:

Are we any closer? If HTML5 supports timecodes as operands in URLs then I 
suppose all that's needed to achieve this is a server that can host recordings, 
or an archive that would allow such access to its recordings (at Paradisec for 
instance, one would have to be logged in and have permission to read the files 
in question).

@John Hatton, from what you describe on March 8, it sounds like the snippet 
service you mention is in principle possible right now. Is that the case? Could 
I for instance, set up a test pdf with an embedded url pointing to a time-coded 
audio file? Would it have to be .ogg or .wav or something in particular?

I'm very keen for this to become a reality.

Aidan Wilson

School of Languages and Linguistics
The University of Melbourne

+61428 458 969
aidan.wilson at unimelb.edu.au

On Tue, 19 Mar 2013, Margaret Carew wrote:

> Hi
> We are preparing a couple of publications at present through ILS funded projects using sound printing. The readers will play traditional songs linked to codes on the pages. The books contain provenance information linking these song items to an archival deposit.
> Regards
> Margaret Carew
> On 18/03/2013, at 11:01 PM, "Randy LaPolla" <randy.lapolla at gmail.com<mailto:randy.lapolla at gmail.com>> wrote:
> That sort of thing is used here (Singapore) for children's books, but it can be used for anything. The ones I've seen are made in China, so mainly are for teaching children to read Chinese. Essentially the pen is a recorder and playback device, and "learns" to associate codes that are on the page with short audio files that you buy or create yourself. For ones you record yourself you associate a tag with the file and then paste the tag on the page. When the pen reads the code, it plays the file. It is quite clever and not expensive.
> Randy
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> On Mar 18, 2013, at 10:17 AM, Colleen Hattersley wrote:
> Ruth and others
> At the recent ALW there was some discussion about a company that associates sound to a printed document. The sound is heard by swiping a special pen-like instrument over particular spots on the page.  Not sure if this process would be suitable for academic documents but it might be worth investigating.  Here is the linkk: http://www.printingasia.com/
> Colleen Hattersley
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Ruth Singer <ruth.singer at gmail.com<mailto:ruth.singer at gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi Steffen and others,
> So we've got the technological know-how and we've got archives that
> will store these sound files in a way that we can link to. The problem
> is how to publish documents with linked audio files in way that will
> receive the same academic recognition as a print publication without
> linked audio. Mouton de Gruyter has gone backwards in their policy
> regards audio files. The latest information I received is that they
> will not include CDs in their linguistics books or host audio files
> without obtaining intellectual property over the sound files.
> I am interested in publishing descriptive work on an endangered
> language with linked audio files. At the moment I'm hoping that the
> OALI initiative will produce academically recognised way to publish
> this:
> http://hpsg.fu-berlin.de/OALI/
> Here's a bit pasted from their website:
> OALI is an Open Ac­cess ini­tia­tive of Ste­fan Müller (and other
> lin­guists at FU Berlin) and Mar­tin Haspel­math that was start­ed in
> Au­gust 2012 and quick­ly found many promi­nent sup­port­ers (more
> than 100 by now). Please refer to back­ground and mo­ti­va­tion to
> learn more about the se­ri­ous prob­lems that we see with the
> tra­di­tion­al prac­tice of book pub­li­ca­tion in our field. An
> ex­tend­ed ver­sion of this doc­u­ment in­clud­ing de­tailed num­bers
> and case stud­ies can be found in Müller, 2012.
> Our pro­posed so­lu­tion is open-ac­cess pub­li­ca­tion in which the
> (freely avail­able) elec­tron­ic book is the pri­ma­ry en­ti­ty.
> Print­ed copies are avail­able through print-on-de­mand ser­vices.
> We are plan­ning to set up a pub­li­ca­tion unit at the FU Berlin,
> co­or­di­nat­ed by Ste­fan Müller and Mar­tin Haspel­math, that
> pub­lish­es high-qual­i­ty book-length work from any sub­field of
> lin­guis­tics.
> Cheers,
> Ruth
> On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Mat Bettinson <mat at plothatching.com<mailto:mat at plothatching.com>> wrote:
>> On 8 March 2013 13:25, Doug Cooper <doug.cooper.thailand at gmail.com<mailto:doug.cooper.thailand at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> Yes, this states the server solution exactly.  This does not pose any
>>> technical barrier (it's just a matter of providing a wrapper for
>>> something like sox or mp3splt).
>> I recently knocked up something that did exactly what John described. I
>> implemented it as a Python CGI script running on a web server. You pass a
>> filename and the start/end time periods and it uses the Python Wave library
>> to simply generate a new wave file and then sends that to the web browser as
>> Content-Type: audio/wav.
>> As you say if you're working on mp3 data it would need to be more
>> sophisticated, piping to mp3splt etc.
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Mat Bettinson
> --
> Ruth Singer
> ARC Research Fellow
> Linguistics Program
> School of Languages and Linguistics
> Faculty of Arts
> University of Melbourne 3010
> Tel. +61 3 90353774<tel:%2B61%203%2090353774>
> http://languages-linguistics.unimelb.edu.au/academic-staff/ruth-singer
> --
> Colleen

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