[RNLD] RE: Field equipment

Anna Luisa Daigneault annaluisa at livingtongues.org
Sat Nov 21 22:47:48 UTC 2015


Hello all,

We recommend using Olympus LS-series recorders. Great quality, and portable
for fieldwork.

http://www.getolympus.com/us/en/audio/pcm-recorders.html?icn=topnav&ici=voicerecordersnav_music-recorders-image


For computer-based recording (if a speaker is recording straight into a
computer via USB mic headset), we recommend the Sennheiser PC 36 USB Headset

best wishes,

Anna Luisa



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On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Frank Seidel <frank.zidle at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Felicity,
>
> just my quick 50 cents worth. I would not worry so much about the preamps
> in the Edirol-r26 or the Zoom H6 unless you need to record a lot of music
> and want to avoid distortion owing to the mic signal overloading the
> preamps (which results in distortion even though the recording level does
> not exceed 0dB). But in terms of noise generation the Edirol might even
> have a little less. In the end you would need to test it with the mics you
> are using. The edirol has a good preamp for this type of recorder, imo. If
> you need really good preamps and only do 1 mic (for stereo) or 2 channel
> recordings, the Marantz PMD661 has the pest preamps of them all (It is also
> more expensive). If you need the 4 xlr channels of the H6 because you
> record a lot of conversation or some such *and* you need good preamps
> because you want to do broadcast quality type recordings with film you
> would need a separate preamp anyways. For this you need recorders that have
> inputs with low line in type capabilities (I think both the r-26 as well as
> the h6 have that). But here you open a whole different can of worms and
> recording skills. In the end it all depends on what you want to do. It is
> hard to give generic advice when one doesn't know what recording situations
> are going to be targeted, but I hope this helps.
>
> Best,
>
> Frank
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Grant Aiton <aiton.grant at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There is also a direct XLR connector that wouldn't need the adapter
>> referenced by Julia (it attaches directly to the Rode micon cable): micon
>> to xlr
>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?N=10730909&InitialSearch=yes&sts=pi
>>
>> This works with the Rode lavalier mics and the HS1 headset for sure, and
>> likely other Rode mics. I have been using the Zoom H4n recorder with
>> external microphones to very good results. I am using the Rode headset
>> mostly (HS1), with the Rode lavalier as a more portable backup. I would be
>> very interested to hear whether there are any advantages to the Zoom H5 or
>> H6 compared to the H4. I always thought the extra features of the H5 and H6
>> would be a bit excessive or unnecessary for linguistic fieldwork.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Grant
>>
>>
>> --
>>
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>> PhD Candidate
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>>
>> On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Julia Colleen Miller <
>> julia.miller at anu.edu.au> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> RE: Zooms- Yes! We’ve just been using the H5, not upgrading to the H6
>>> quite yet, but mostly because we have not been recording much music or
>>> singing here and the H5 model has been really quite exceptional for speech
>>> (well, yes, some singing, birdsong collection, as well as phonetic
>>> analyses).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Was worried about a bigger power drain in the H6 due to the new improved
>>> colour viewer. And battery power is an issue in PNG. Probably less so for
>>> you mob working in less-remote spots in Australia. The specs say 20 hours
>>> of continuous recording, though I am a bit suspicious of this, as their
>>> previous model would not record more than 4 or 5 hours, though this was in
>>> extreme heat/humidity conditions and usually with phantom power turned on
>>> for external head-mounted mics.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As for XLR and the Rode mics, they offer these mini-to-XLR adapters, but
>>> you would want to test what they do to the signal quality:
>>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/387850-REG/Rode_VXLR_VXLR_Mono_Mini_Jack.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We have been using the Sennheiser 100 G3 wireless set up which has been
>>> really great. The XLR connector is the configuration we use most for the
>>> Zooms and Canon video cameras (like the XA20), but with the smaller
>>> handicams, the mini connector works fine, too.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I might purchase a Rode for the Centre and test it out. A locally-made,
>>> less expensive option is always a good thing… if the quality and
>>> interoperability is similar. Same goes for the H6.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Julia
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> *From:* Felicity Meakins [mailto:f.meakins at uq.edu.au]
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, 19 November 2015 10:00 AM
>>> *To:* r-n-l-d <r-n-l-d at unimelb.edu.au>
>>> *Subject:* [RNLD] Field equipment
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wanted a bit of advice on recording devices and mikes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been using an Edirol R-09 forever which has been fine but they
>>> are only minijack input not XLR so I was thinking of changing. The options
>>> seem to be:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>    1. Edirol R-26 (+ higher end models)
>>>    http://proav.roland.com/products/proav_r-26/
>>>    2. Zoom H-6 (+ higher end models)
>>>    www.zoom.co.jp/products/field-video-recording/field-recording/h6-handy-recorder
>>>
>>> Anyway advice would be good. I have heard the preamps in the Zoom are
>>> better. This is the kind of difference I would like to know about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Second, I’m looking at different mikes. I need a wireless set up. I have
>>> a really nice Sennheisser set up which I like a lot but there is a RODE
>>> alternative that is cheaper. Some filmmakers have recommended it to me but
>>> I need an XLR version. Anyone have any advice on that:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1115091-REG/rode_rodlnk_fm_rodelink_wireless_filmmaker_kit.html
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Same goes with RODE lapel mikes. I would prefer an XLR set up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any advice would be great!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Felicity
>>>
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>>
>>
>
>
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